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To: Lazamataz

I don't think we have gotten to the point where innocent citizens need to worry about offier's attempts to take drugs (and drug dealers) off the streets. As a cop, I am familar with these situations and I believe the suspect was probably giving off a lot of vibes. Thats why they brought the dog into the scenario in the first place. Officers don't have the time or the desire to start checking every car on the highway with a K-9.


182 posted on 01/24/2005 10:49:05 AM PST by blueknight
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Excellent point. I think a lot of people believe officers have nothing to do but harass the public. I do not believe that to be the case.


188 posted on 01/24/2005 10:51:24 AM PST by westmichman (Pray for global warming. (Thank G-D for the red states))
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To: blueknight
As a cop, I am familar with these situations and I believe the suspect was probably giving off a lot of vibes.

Vibes?

192 posted on 01/24/2005 10:52:56 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: blueknight
I don't think we have gotten to the point where innocent citizens need to worry about offier's attempts to take drugs (and drug dealers) off the streets. As a cop, I am familar with these situations and I believe the suspect was probably giving off a lot of vibes. Thats why they brought the dog into the scenario in the first place. Officers don't have the time or the desire to start checking every car on the highway with a K-9.

I appreciate your input. You sound like one of the "good guys". There are, as you undoubtably know, quite a few bad cops.

I don't think I'd worry about you. I do think I'd worry about them.

However, the philosophical deeper argument is the one I am most concerned about. We are turning from a nation whereinwhich the ends never justified the means, to a nation where the ends completely justify the means. Read this very good analysis (especially the last paragraph) and tell me what you think -- putting aside, for a moment, your natural affinity towards making your job easier.

193 posted on 01/24/2005 10:53:43 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: blueknight
Thats why they brought the dog into the scenario in the first place.

That's not what I read. The K-9 officer just came upon the scene.

Officers don't have the time or the desire to start checking every car on the highway with a K-9.

Most do not perhaps. Our rights protect us from the ones that do.

195 posted on 01/24/2005 10:54:39 AM PST by palmer ("Oh you heartless gloaters")
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To: blueknight
I don't think we have gotten to the point where innocent citizens need to worry about offier's attempts to take drugs (and drug dealers) off the streets. As a cop, I am familar with these situations and I believe the suspect was probably giving off a lot of vibes.

Can you steer me to the portion of Constitution that says "vibes" are probable cause?

Your typing seems a bit slurred (offier's and familar (sic)). Can we warrantlessly search your car now?

200 posted on 01/24/2005 10:56:34 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: blueknight
Officers don't have the time or the desire to start checking every car on the highway with a K-9.

1. Realistically, yes that's probably true for most officers. But where is the payoff for the rest of society to take that chance?

2. Should your ability to enjoy your Constitutionally acknowledged rights depend upon my good will and my schedule? No? Then why should my ability to do so depend upon your good will and schedule?

773 posted on 01/25/2005 3:26:12 PM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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