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To: blueknight
I don't think we have gotten to the point where innocent citizens need to worry about offier's attempts to take drugs (and drug dealers) off the streets. As a cop, I am familar with these situations and I believe the suspect was probably giving off a lot of vibes.

Can you steer me to the portion of Constitution that says "vibes" are probable cause?

Your typing seems a bit slurred (offier's and familar (sic)). Can we warrantlessly search your car now?

200 posted on 01/24/2005 10:56:34 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: AdamSelene235

Sorry for the mis-spellings although they gave you the opportunity for a good quip. The courts have traditionally recognized the officer's reliance on "knowledge and experience" when making decisions on the street. Anyway, I wasn't using that as a justification in this case, just as the court didn't. I was just pointing out that officers are not going to run out and parade their K-9s around cars just because they can, absent something else (vibes).


221 posted on 01/24/2005 11:02:32 AM PST by blueknight
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To: All

just a quick thought:

it seems the overwhelming response here at Free Republic is pretty much the all-American libertarian response to more government intrusion: shock, disgust and a healthy dose of skepticism about government intentions. That's good. Oddly enough, most "left"-leaning sites seem to be full of a similar response on this particular issue. If the vocal conservatives are opposed to this and the vocal (civil-liberties oriented) liberals are as well... who the hell is supporting it?

Someone already pointed out the irony of two of our more "liberal" SC Justices being the voice of sanity on this issue... Maybe it really isn't an irony at all; maybe it's simply our long-held delusional fixation on the "left-right" shell game finally becoming too obvious to ignore anymore.

Isn't it time to start re-assessing our out-dated, intentionally divisive concepts of "left" and "right"? Maybe we could simplify the question: are you FOR government intrusion into the lives and business of peaceful people or AGAINST it? That's what matters. "Left" and "right" are meaningless... who cares which side of the aisle some French member of parliament sat on, anyway? It's time to get on with the business of freedom, across the board, on EVERY issue.


870 posted on 01/27/2005 5:07:55 PM PST by neoconjob ("...deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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