Posted on 01/02/2005 12:41:42 PM PST by OneYoungConservative
"The Holocaust was a terrible, unforgivable crime against the Jewish nation, a crime against humanity that cannot be accepted by humankind."
Mahmoud Abbas, rejecting the charge of Holocaust denial
Is this not the first (and only) Palestinian Official to accept the horrors and wrongs of the Holocaust? The first step to peace, in my mind, is a mental test. A man who fully understands the magnitude of hate in the Holocaust is definitely a man I would like to see in charge. Not a man who praises the work of the nazis. It takes a man who accepts gruesome history as a tragedy to rule a country that seems to lack that understanding.
Although Abbas may seem to have an underlying conspiracy to trick the Israelis into accepting him, I believe that he is comprised of solely good intention. Palestine and Israel could use support, not doubt.
As an American Jew with numerous Jewish friends who live in Israel, I feel obligated to stand up and instill hope intead of doubt.
Damn, I thought this was a discussion about the Swedish pop group!
You're out of your friggen skull.
Ignorant Jews keep obsessing about the holocaust of 60 years ago but they can't see the one slowly but surely wrapping it's coils around Israel's neck now.
Abbas is Arafat in a suit.
Are you nuts? Look at a map. Hope involves praying for your enemies. Abbas has to be an enemy to get elected but hope that he understands the situation and that he has some shred of commitment to peace.
One side has to win or lose totally. Israel will win by driving the militants and the haters out of the West Bank and Gaza or Israel will be overrun through "negotiation".
There is NO middle ground.
You should be optimistic because Israel has virtue & strength that will help protect her. But to believe that Abbas is the answer, I'm cautiously pessimistic. He still goes by "Abu Mazen", his warrior name. He made those comments about the Holocaust because he's previously been a Holocaust denier, but now needs Int'l money. Maybe he's lying to his own people when he justifies terrorism against Israel, but he's lying to someone.
Arabs lie. There is no moral problem in lying if it achieves a greater good.
Anyone who believes Abbas is a fool.
Prayers certainly. Prepare yourself, however, to be disappointed with Abbas. Aside from his duplicity, at least 2 generations of those called Palistinians have been indoctrinated to hate Jews and to believe that Israel belongs to them. This will be hard to turn around.
Campaigning in the West Bank yesterday, former Palestinian Prime Minister and current presidential frontrunner Mahmoud Abbas vowed to protect and shelter wanted terrorists and defended recent appearances with members of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades.
Referring to terrorists on Israel's most wanted list, Abbas pledged, "When we see them, when we meet them, and when they welcome us, we owe them. This debt always is to protect them from assassination, to protect them from killing, and all these things they are subject to by the Israelis.
This is an article at World net Daily. You need to read it. There will never be peace with the "Palestonians" they don't want it. Israels very existance proves Islam to be false.
This means that the leaders of those societies must actually SAY, publicly, that each of the blood libels is in fact a lie.
Necessary AND sufficient. If and only if. Obviously won't happen for a long time, because any leader of an Arab society that does that now will be toppled, because half of the society will believe him and hate him for deceiving them before, and the other half will disbelieve him and will hate him for allowing himself to be bribed by the Jews (so they will think).
If it doesn't happen, those societies will never accept peace with Israel. If it does happen, Israel will feel comfortable about giving the Palestinians a state. It comes down to this one issue, and the refusal of the rest of the world to address the pathological Jew-hatred and blood libels because it is convenient to let the Arabs deceive themselves will be judged very harshly by history.
As long as the liar gets to define the "greater good."
(Sounds like a liberal...)
exactly
This guy doesn't have the life expectancy of a house fly.
Abbas said he was going to protect Palestinian gunmen, including the likes of Hamas. You're nuts if you think Abbas is going to stop anyone from murdering Israelis and anyone else--like US citizens--who happen to be in the way of the gunmen, homicide bombers and general killers of Jews.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1312383/posts
I am sure you'll find some reason to appreciate Charles Manson too.
By the way there are no Muslim Arab Moderates they are just the clever ones who manage to trick naive Jews into thinking there is a chance of peace with them.Remember Sadat well he was no man of peace either.
Recent changes in opinion toward the Terrorist Abbas have been, understandably, greeted with disbelief from most objective Americans, Israelis and others cognizant of the man's past achievements in the realm of terror.
Once a Terrorist, always a Terrorist. The crime of intimidating, through violence, helpless civilians without warning or demonstrable reason, must always be held in special abhorrence by all civil gentlemen.
As a Christian I do forgive Mr. Abbas, just as I forgive Bin Ladin and Hitler. This does not however, absolve me from my understanding of history. More importantly; Christian charity does not equate with a denial of reality.
Abbas' record in the realm of terrorism covers continents and has existed for decades. He was the chief financier of one of the most elaborate terror schemes in history; the Black September Massacre at the 1972 Munich Olympiad. Also he has yet to refute a single Al-Qaeda or other terror group, and despite the quotes here presented to the contrary, Abbas authored the definitive refutation of the holocaust.
Now we, as Christians and as civil personages in general (for indeed this is an issue seperate from faith and more in the subject matter of basic societal order), must decide how we meet and react to terrorist acts. We also decide what semblance of respect a man can expect from us after committing such atrocities.
Our President has been outspoken in condemning the Democratic "virtue" of acceptance by refusing to meet with terrorists (what a concept). This is a great departure from the foreign policy models of Presidents Carter and Clinton who both entertained and dined with terrorists, not to mention negotiating and placating them.
In the balance at this point is the very nature of civilization. What message are we sending our children if we show them that terrorism is indeed a valuable tool in the arsenal of social change. Why should future generations bother waiting four years to vote in elections they don't even care for or understand when they can satisfy their need for 'political involvement' by throwing molotov cocktails today.
The civility we tolerate and respect on the streets of Gaza and the West Bank is already becoming the norm on our own streets (i.e. Sharpton inciting arson and riot in Harlem and the such).
Despite the academic rhetoric to the contrary, on the macro/aggregate level our global society is today progressing into a bold new world of moral insaliency, in which no real acts may be condemned. Indeed if we, in keeping with the ideals of moral relativity, were to condemn terrorists then we would be just as bad as they are. We are moving into a future where terrorists will be just as accepted as Republicans and Democrats and will have made for themselves a place at the table of international diplomacy. This must not stand. This is not the Christian way.
Terrorism must be met with tenacity and defeated. Terrorists of whatever ilk must not be placated or pardoned for the sake of political expediency and especially not for political corectness.
The only peace that any terrorist will ever tolerate is absolute acceptance of his terms without condition.
In terms of terrorism, slavery and victory are the only possible solutions. Either the Western world will become slaves to the reign by terror of Muslim Extremists over the next generation, or we will rise up as one to defeat this particular terror and set an example for every criminal on earth that such actions are intolerable.
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