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Brussels to pursue Greece and Hungary for breaking euro rules
EUobserver ^ | Dec 26 2004 | Richard Carter

Posted on 12/25/2004 4:48:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv

The European Commission is set to pursue disciplinary proceedings against Hungary and Greece for breaking the rules underpinning the euro... The budget deficits of both these countries clearly surpasses the three percent limit set by the EU's Stability and Growth Pact and the Commission will rule today (22 December) that they have not taken sufficient measures to reduce them, according to AFP... Brussels is expected to suspend disciplinary procedures against Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Cyprus and Malta... Brussels has recently suspended this disciplinary procedure against France and Germany, judging that the two heavyweights of the euro zone are on target to move under the three percent level in 2005... Portugal's Prime Minister Pedro Santana Lopes, said that his government will take emergency measures to avoid breaking the Stability Pact after Brussels ruled a planned sale of government property invalid.

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1 posted on 12/25/2004 4:48:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ValerieUSA
Ping!

2 posted on 12/25/2004 4:50:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv

France & Germany have both repeatedly broken the 3% threshold, yet somehow the EU seems to give those two a pass every year.


3 posted on 12/25/2004 4:54:24 PM PST by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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To: aynrandfreak
You're absolutely correct. The wiggle factor is ...that they have not taken sufficient measures to reduce them...
4 posted on 12/25/2004 4:56:03 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: SunkenCiv

Boil them Brussels in Greece and you won't be Hungary anymore.


5 posted on 12/25/2004 4:56:20 PM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: SunkenCiv

Hahahaha! Anyone taking bets on how long this silly EU thing will stay united?


6 posted on 12/25/2004 4:56:24 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: mtbopfuyn
I think that's exactly why Bush is trying to push Turkey into it. Compel it to enlarge until it disintegrates into a loose alliance instead of a megastate.
7 posted on 12/25/2004 5:01:12 PM PST by dufekin (Four more years! Liberals, learn: whiners are losers every time.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
I think that's exactly why Bush is trying to push Turkey into it. Compel it to enlarge until it disintegrates into a loose alliance instead of a megastate.
8 posted on 12/25/2004 5:01:33 PM PST by dufekin (Four more years! Liberals, learn: whiners are losers every time.)
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To: philetus

Pretty soon they'll have some Turkey to go with that. Ummmm!


9 posted on 12/25/2004 5:02:02 PM PST by Arkie2
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To: SunkenCiv

What a jkoke the EU is They want to bun Greece and Hungary while they let the Frogs and the Krauts slide. Who really runs the EU Thats right folks France and germany , the rest are just along for the ride and are too stupid to realise it.


10 posted on 12/25/2004 5:02:30 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: aynrandfreak

I forget if it was Portugal or Spain but one of those two had to pay huge fines years ago because they exceeded the limit one year. Now that Germany and France are exceeding the limit the rules appear to change. Of course Germany is now failing the 3% test (I think) for the third year straight. But no problems, "They're on track fixing it" (Sarcasm).

There are more examples of how the big players are making their own rules as they go. But again, just as with Turkish EU membership, many in the EU are "supranationalists" and believe in a EU to the extent that they will overlook this all in the hopes of moving forward with this dream.

Red6


11 posted on 12/25/2004 5:05:19 PM PST by Red6
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To: SunkenCiv

It seems as though France, Germany and Belgium have discovered a way to RULE all of Europe without an invasion. These Slick Willie's are escuseing themselves fromt the RULE --( as usual), while the rest of the EU convert's toe the line or pay the price!!

Indeed, how long will they allow this to happen? What is the price that they are to pay? It will be interesting to watch the EURO slugfest once it begins. The Italian PM knew what he was doing by cutting the taxes, but the Italian people went with the Socialist Tax and spenders. They will learn a hard lesson very soon.

How do these countrie drop out of the EU anyway? does anyone know?


12 posted on 12/25/2004 5:06:53 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: SunkenCiv

Cue the Benny Hill music ping


13 posted on 12/25/2004 5:10:22 PM PST by investigateworld (( a Savior has been born ! ))
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To: SunkenCiv
This is the Achilles heel of the Euro currency. If this committee can do little but "jaw bone" to enforce economic norms, there is little chance they will succeed. I have long believed that the Euro will be taken down by the collapse of one or more of the member economies driven by their socialist governments.
14 posted on 12/25/2004 8:45:00 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: mtbopfuyn
Add Ireland in for good measure.....they cut their taxes much to the chagrin of the Brussels bureaucrats.

Note how all the "little people" get slammed

15 posted on 12/25/2004 9:10:29 PM PST by spokeshave (Strategery + Schardenfreude = Stratenschardenfreudery)
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To: SunkenCiv
Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia...Ehh.!

Seems the leftie beaurocrats in Brussels want to punish some of the coalition of the willing.

Note that Greece overspent by the previous leftie PASOK administration (as well as Olympics spending) that was subsequently booted out.

Looks like the leftie beaurocrats in Brussels have found a tool to take down governments they don't like.

16 posted on 12/25/2004 9:20:41 PM PST by spokeshave (Strategery + Schardenfreude = Stratenschardenfreudery)
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To: SunkenCiv
France and Germany, judging that the two heavyweights of the euro zone are on target to move under the three percent level in 2005...

Wanna bet? I'm giving 2 to 1. US dollars only, please.

17 posted on 12/26/2004 3:16:57 AM PST by monkeyshine
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To: philetus

Any other recipes we should Czech out? Maybe you got one for a chocolate Malta? Or do you think that wouldn't be Germane to this thread?


18 posted on 12/26/2004 3:21:11 AM PST by monkeyshine
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To: aynrandfreak; facedown; philetus; mtbopfuyn; dufekin; Arkie2; sgtbono2002; Red6; 26lemoncharlie; ...
Good comments, all. Update.
Ministers clinch deal on euro rules reform
by Richard Carter
21.03.2005
The main sticking point during negotiations was a debate over what factors should be considered when deciding whether to punish a country in breach of the rules – as France and Germany have been for three consecutive years... Smaller member states felt that there were too many exceptions on the list and bigger states – notably France and Germany – felt that there were too few. This row was solved by the removal of the list from the proposal... The Pact has also been softened in terms of the amount of time a member state is allowed to correct its deficit problem... The only finance minister not entirely happy was Austria’s Karl-Heinz Grasser, who has consistently argued that the Pact should not be loosened.

19 posted on 03/21/2005 8:01:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
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Greece one step away from massive fines
EU Observer | Feb 17 2005 | Richard Carter
Posted on 02/20/2005 8:25:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1347592/posts


20 posted on 03/21/2005 8:05:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
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