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1 posted on 12/08/2004 6:54:09 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 12/08/2004 6:55:24 AM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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Dusty?? Is there an odor?? A bad, bad odor?? May I suggest a Michael Moore fart??


3 posted on 12/08/2004 6:56:56 AM PST by Doc Savage (...because they stand on a wall, and they say nothing is going to hurt you tonight, not on my watch!)
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To: PatrickHenry

I wonder how many kook theories this will revive.


5 posted on 12/08/2004 7:00:37 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: PatrickHenry

"How could all of this dust have formed so quickly?"

Sounds like my wife's question


7 posted on 12/08/2004 7:03:47 AM PST by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: PatrickHenry
The way gold nuggets get produced may be applicable.

Envision an archaeobacteria so tough it can repair radiation damage to it's genetic code. Then envision it out there sucking in molecules from intersteller gas, extracting the energy (from the charge differentials), and excreting discharged metallic ions.

Next thing you know you have lots and lots of dust.

Then the dust coalesces, gravity heats it up, planets are formed, etc., and the archaeobacteria move in for another round of meals.

8 posted on 12/08/2004 7:06:34 AM PST by muawiyah
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"In the last few years, observers have discovered huge quantities of interstellar dust near the most distant quasars in the very young universe, only 700 million years after the cosmos was born in the Big Bang."

Bold should be: ...we believe only 700 million years after the cosmos was potentially born in what we believe (and many do not) was something we call the Big Bang.

Astronomers know two processes that form the dust, Krause said. One, old sun-like stars near death generate dust. Two, infrared space missions have revealed the dust is produced in supernovae explosions.

Bold should be: Astronomers used to believe there were two processes that form dust, but now we realize we were wrong, which seems to be happening on more of a regular basis.

"The first process takes several billion years," Krause noted. "Supernovae explosions, by contrast, produce dust in much less time, only about 10 million years."

Bold should be: The first process we thought took several billion years, but now we realize, that our juiced up numbers to pull the line for the Theory of Evolution, we miscalculated.

More insightful commentary to come!

9 posted on 12/08/2004 7:09:56 AM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical! † [Check out my profile page])
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To: PatrickHenry

A good portion of it comes from the dirt road in front of my house.


10 posted on 12/08/2004 7:10:03 AM PST by OSHA (Do you hear what I hear?)
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To: PatrickHenry

No mystery, the cleaning lady went on vacation.


13 posted on 12/08/2004 7:15:57 AM PST by Humvee
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To: PatrickHenry

20 posted on 12/08/2004 11:51:57 AM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: PatrickHenry
perhaps indicate there is some non-stellar process that can produce large amounts of dust

What is the dust made of? Silicates? Ordinary stars can do this. All the way up to iron such as what makes up a good part of the earth.

21 posted on 12/08/2004 11:55:05 AM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: PatrickHenry
-the answer to this and solution to many other contradictions and mysteries is self-evident.

Time is not independent of the observer and it closed -expanding only relatively by observance in infinite division only.

22 posted on 12/08/2004 12:35:13 PM PST by DBeers
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To: PatrickHenry

I ask this question myself here at home, "How could this
much dust have formed so quickly?" Does this make me
brilliant?


23 posted on 12/08/2004 12:54:42 PM PST by Twinkie
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To: PatrickHenry

Seems obvious to me - God is a bachelor computer geek.


26 posted on 12/08/2004 3:45:42 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: PatrickHenry
How the Early Universe Got Dusty Remains a Mystery

Well, IIRC most of the dust in your house is actually shed epidermis soooooooooo......A bunch of really big people running around?

27 posted on 12/08/2004 3:48:58 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum europe vincendarum)
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To: PatrickHenry

"The Big Bang Never Happened" by Eric J. Lerner sheds cosmic light on this topic. Lerner systematically critiques the current leading theory of the origins of the universe. It is a critique of the methodology, and of the underlying agenda and bias that undermines good science when it comes to this central tenet of orthodox science. While presenting his ideas to a symposium attended by leading astronomers, astrophysicists, and cosmologists, he began by surveying how many of them firmly believed Big Bang to be true. All but one said that they did. Upon completing his presentation, he again surveyed the attendees, and found that all but one now seriously doubted the validity of Big Bang. After reading Lerner's book, I consider myself among the serious doubter crowd. Has anyone else read this book?


28 posted on 12/08/2004 4:50:10 PM PST by PTBarnum (Go To: APTTAX.COM)
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To: PatrickHenry

See also:

Dusty Rings

30 posted on 12/08/2004 6:46:14 PM PST by nicollo
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“Planemos” May Give Rise to Planets, Moons
Scientific American | June 06, 2006 | David Biello
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Planet-Forming Disks Might Put the Brakes on Stars
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory | July 24, 2006 | Whitney Clavin
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