The Last Crusade Of The Templars

Times Of London ^ | 11-29-2004 | Ruth Gledhill

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The Never Ending Search (For the Holy Grail)

[investigateworld]

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[livius]

Puhleeze. The Templars were initially a very good, completely orthodox order. Some of them - not all, by any means - seem to have started dabbling in things ranging from the occult to homosexuality. It's unfortunate that the whole order had to be suppressed, but many orders have been suppressed in the life of the Church, some for heterodoxy and some simply because they had outlived their usefulness. With the Templars, it was a bit of both.

In any case, the Templars gave rise to a whole Masonic wing and to lots of New Age books, so why should their self-proclaimed heirs complain? Nowadays, the Templars are more popular than orthodox Catholicism.

[marblehead17]

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[RikaStrom]

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[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

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[AMDG&BVMH]

The article, however, does not say they are asking for an apology for the disbanding of the order due to heresy, but “for the torture and murder of our leadership” . . .

In any case: Praise is due to the early Crusader Templars. PC or not. ;)

[Galena Nevada]

I think most Templar descendants would argue that the church spread rumors about their participation in the occult or homosexuality to justify their cruel treatment.

[AMDG&BVMH]

"Templars are more popular than orthodox Catholicism"

agree with everything but the above from your comment.

There is a Romance assoc. with the Templars, because of the Grail and Arthurian legends. But I see no sign that they are about to overcome the Holy Roman Catholic Church. ;)

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Since neither Pope John Paul II, a native of Poland, nor any of the living Catholic heirs of the Bourbon or Capetian dynasties had anything to do with the trials and executions in the 14th-century, asking them to offer an "apology" is a little absurd. It would be like asking Prince Charles, Queen Elizabeth, or Tony Blair to "apologize" for the outrages and terrorism of Henry VIII and Oliver Cromwell.

Interesting article though...

[bigbob]

"settled in France"....Dang....

[AMDG&BVMH]

"I think most Templar descendants would argue that the church spread rumors about their participation in the occult or homosexuality"

well, they can argue that . . .

but when there is truth to the charge, it is not merely "rumor."

[torqemada]

700 YEARS! Get over it, already...and get a real life - preferably not one that requires KKK costumes.

[MagnumRancid]

Double Puhleeze. The Templar founders were adventurers and opportunists. The Church and Crusades were where the action was. They were "suppressed", as you put, it because the Pope and certain European royalty were afraid of the financial empire the Templars were creating.

[wideawake]

A Templar Order in Britain that claims to be descended from the original Knights Templar has asked that the Pope should make the apology.

LOL!

There are no Templars.

These whack-jobs are just playing dress-up.

[AMDG&BVMH]

" It would be like asking Prince Charles, Queen Elizabeth, or Tony Blair to "apologize" for the outrages and terrorism of Henry VIII and Oliver Cromwell. "

EXCELLENT idea! Or if not apologize, at least allow the appropriate tarnishing of their images in history lessons . . . ;)

[Albion Wilde]

"...The Knights Templar were founded by Hugh de Payens, a French knight from the Champagne area of Burgundy ..."


This is hugh! The Knights were getting stuned on champagne and burgundy...