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High school students suspended after refusing to remove the American Flag from their class picture.
The Press Democrat ^ | October 17, 2004 | Donna Horowitz

Posted on 10/19/2004 1:57:42 PM PDT by nascartex

Conservative icon Newt Gingrich met with a group of rebellious Sonoma high school students Saturday, saying he was proud of them for defying a ban on flags in their senior class photo.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: academicbias; americanflag; censorship; conservative; diversity; education; educrats; gingrich; hadtobecalifornia; oldglory; patriotism; republican; schoolbias
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Conservative icon Newt Gingrich met with a group of rebellious Sonoma high school students Saturday, saying he was proud of them for defying a ban on flags in their senior class photo.

Gingrich, the Georgia Republican who engineered a GOP takeover of the House of Representatives in 1994, was in Sonoma County for a speaking engagement Saturday night.

He also met with 10 seniors from Sonoma Valley High School, where two students were suspended and a third faces the same fate after refusing to surrender American flags during the class photo session.

"It's such an amazing story and so out of sync with what's going on in the rest of the country," Gingrich said during a 30-minute session on the patio at Piatti Ristorante on the Sonoma Plaza.

When they were invited to meet with Gingrich, some of the students weren't familiar with the former House speaker, who left Congress when they were in junior high. But by the time they arrived, they were eager to make their case for waving the flag.

Brandon Downs, 17, said school officials didn't object when students wore shirts with beer logos, although he noted "that's against school rules."

Camille Wiles, 17, said Latino students wanted to display Mexican flags in previous years, and teachers told her the school wanted to prevent any problems by banning all flags.

The students said school officials told them the class picture wouldn't be sold, and none would be taken next year.

After hearing the students describe how they pulled more flags out of their pockets as soon as teachers came up behind them and took them away, Gingrich said: "You guys are pretty persistent."

He added: "Anti-flag control. That's fairly Looney Tunes."

Ian Stewart, one of the suspended students, attended the session with Gingrich.

Superintendent Kim Jamieson denied that the ban on flags was a response to the appearance of a Mexican flag in last year's senior photo. He said the school simply wanted a photo without props after four years of students displaying flags.

"I think this is really unfortunate this happened," school board President Sandra Lowe said Saturday. "Senior year is a great year for kids. They should have only wonderful experiences."

She said the whole brouhaha could have been avoided with better communication between students and educators.

"It's not about the flag. It's all about communicating," Lowe said, adding that a school bulletin warned students ahead of time that they weren't supposed to be any props - including flags - in the photo. Teachers also confiscated an empty beer keg.

School officials already have grumbled about the media attention, but the spotlight might get even brighter now that the issue has the attention of Gingrich, a regular contributor to the Fox News Channel.

Gingrich aide Rick Tyler said he had contacted a Fox News producer, who was interested in the story.

A similar flap involving the National Football League made headlines last week.

Denver Broncos quarterback Jake Plummer refused to remove a helmet decal honoring former teammate Pat Tillman, who died in Afghanistan after quitting football to join the Army. The league threatened to fine Plummer as much as $30,000 for violating uniform rules before working out a compromise that included posting Tillman's number 40 in Denver's stadium.

Speaking to the students in Sonoma, Gingrich said, "In the middle of a war the idea that you'd say 'no' to students about the American flag is strange, to say the least."

Wiles said "the idea that we can't put up flags is so ridiculous."

Gingrich said "young men and women your age are risking their lives for this flag."

Wiles conceded: "We might have been a little intense, and it could have been handled more calmly by both sides."

But Gingrich defended their actions, saying: "If I was a senior in your shoes, I'd be intense. I think the administration is 100 percent wrong. They ought give you your pictures and have a senior class picture next year."

1 posted on 10/19/2004 1:57:48 PM PDT by nascartex
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To: nascartex

Bump for later to have time to ID the jerks with the school and send them a scathing email.


2 posted on 10/19/2004 1:59:57 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (Kerry Campaign: An army of pompous phrases moving across the landscape in search of an idea)
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To: nascartex
... teachers told her the school wanted to prevent any problems by banning all flags.

Morons ... don't they even know what country they're in ... after all, it is an American public school.

3 posted on 10/19/2004 2:01:11 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: nascartex

Every educrat is a thug.


4 posted on 10/19/2004 2:01:35 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: nascartex

Bravo for these brave students! The Leftist-inspired ban on flags in the Senior photo is an abomination! This is the United States of America, dammit. To hell with these idiotic anti-American Leftist educators!


5 posted on 10/19/2004 2:02:08 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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To: nascartex

Bump for reference.


6 posted on 10/19/2004 2:02:54 PM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: nascartex

Unbelievable. I can see it coming. Some folks will push for a ban anywhere on public property because it might offend someone.


7 posted on 10/19/2004 2:02:54 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Richard Kimball

Here's some info...I see a FAX number there.




Sonoma Valley High School


20000 Broadway ~ Sonoma, CA 95476 ~ (707) 933-4010
FAX: (707) 935-4205 ~ Attendance Hotline: (707) 933-4017

Principal: Mr. Roberto G. Castro

Assistant Principals: Kathleen Henderson, Nanci Mathison, Glenn Moll


8 posted on 10/19/2004 2:03:36 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Prime Choice

Darn straight. Hats off to these students. If it were me, I'd gladly spend a few days suspended.


9 posted on 10/19/2004 2:03:52 PM PDT by nascartex
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To: nascartex

Where's the ACLU? Oh, this isn't an anti-American issue. Never mind.


10 posted on 10/19/2004 2:03:56 PM PDT by Aeronaut (This is no ordinary time. And George W. Bush is no ordinary leader." --George Pataki)
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To: nascartex

Another example of the leftwing trying to force its anti-American standards on those of us who are pro America!


11 posted on 10/19/2004 2:04:12 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: nascartex
"It's not about the flag. It's all about communicating," Lowe said

Lying liberal-speak.

12 posted on 10/19/2004 2:04:41 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: nascartex
"It's not about the flag. It's all about communicating,"

Well, it is now.

13 posted on 10/19/2004 2:04:45 PM PDT by Hatteras (The only plan the Democrats offer is fear, dishonesty and fraud.)
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To: Dog Gone

More contact info here:




A Comprehensive High School



Principal Roberto Castro



20000 Broadway

Sonoma, California 95476

Main Phone (707) 933-4010 FAX (707) 935-4205

FAX for Counseling Office (707) 935-4269

Office Hours: 7:30 a.m. - 4:00 p.m., Monday through Friday

ASB (707) 933-4016
Attendance (707) 933-4017
Career Center (707) 933-4022
Counseling (707) 933-4021
Custodian (707) 933-4036
Library (707) 933-4045
Main Office (707) 933-4010
Principal's Office (707) 933-4030
Registrar (707) 933-4009



14 posted on 10/19/2004 2:04:50 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: nascartex

Anyone offended by the American Flag should move out of the country, or shut up, or both!!!


15 posted on 10/19/2004 2:05:11 PM PDT by fizziwig
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To: Reagan Man

How do these cruds get into our schools ?


16 posted on 10/19/2004 2:05:35 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Richard Kimball

Post it when you get the contact information. I'd like to send them a little note myself.


17 posted on 10/19/2004 2:06:10 PM PDT by msp2004
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To: fizziwig

"Principal Roberto Castro"

Related to Fidel I suspect!!!!


18 posted on 10/19/2004 2:06:26 PM PDT by fizziwig
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To: glennaro

Actually, it should be renamed Mexifornia.


19 posted on 10/19/2004 2:06:46 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: All

Email address:

E-mail us at: svhs@vom.com


20 posted on 10/19/2004 2:06:47 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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