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DNA to reveal source of Dead Sea Scrolls
Jerusalem Post ^ | Aug. 18, 2004 | SARAH KATZ

Posted on 08/17/2004 9:43:31 PM PDT by yonif

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To: Mamzelle

"Actually, aren't equines kosher? Their hooves aren't cloven, after all. I'll have to get out the Bible..."

Two requirements, cloven hooves and chews a cud.

Lev. 11:3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 26

Deut. 14:6, 7, 8


21 posted on 08/19/2004 5:59:53 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Varda

"CE and BCE are obnoxious artifacts of anti-Christian sentiment...."

Exactly. The world doesn't just hate Christians, in truth they hate Jesus Christ and they try to erase, disparage or rewrite anything that refers to Him. This also reminds me of what someone said about the Jesus Seminar: "They think if they vote enough times God will resign."


22 posted on 08/19/2004 6:19:59 AM PDT by Duke of Milan
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To: Varda

That system seems to FURTHER move away from being Christocentric. At least CE recognizes something significant occurred. BP is absurd. Why pick 1950? BKW? (Before the Korean War?) No-one is gonna want to translate all their dates. (In BP four hundred and fifty-eight, Columnus sailed the oceans great? The spirit of 174? The San Francisco 101ers? The Summer of 19?)

Sorry, BC and AD is stayes, but I won't complain if some rabbis wanna use BCE and and CE. Yeah, I will get irked when "Christian" biblical scholars use those terms, but I do like knowing who my enemies are. >:^)


23 posted on 08/19/2004 8:58:16 AM PDT by dangus
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To: yonif

He is way off base. his efforts are malscholorship designed to get a raies.


24 posted on 08/19/2004 2:20:20 PM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: bert

It's just a phony lead in to deny the Hebraic roots of the Bible and Christianity. At the same time it negates any Jewish connection. islamic archaeology has been striving to wipe out the jewish record for years. This moron is moslem or a Nazi or both. He is totally irrelevent.


25 posted on 08/19/2004 5:32:44 PM PDT by lobo59 (E)
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To: Noachian
"66 CE?" " Whens'at?

CE = Common Era.

Seems that BC and AD are no longer used by religious scholars because their meanings are too religious.


I may be speaking out of turn, but maybe he was questioning the year and not the designation. The Temple was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD. Are AD and CE interchangle or is there a conversion needed. I always have thought the former.
26 posted on 08/19/2004 5:38:21 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: COEXERJ145

IMHO BCE=Before Christ Era; CE=Christ Era!!


27 posted on 08/19/2004 5:39:58 PM PDT by mo
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To: Varda
BP (before present; present = 1950) has been in use for many years. Under this system 66 AD is the same as 1884 BP.

Is that a joke? Are you trying to wind us up?

28 posted on 08/19/2004 5:42:18 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: yonif
The seven bone deposits of mules eaten and buried inside cleaning pots and storage jars by the Qumran community in the 1st century BCE will undergo DNA testing this week.

Mules? That doesn't sound plausible, these critters are not kosher. Unless they were starving and mules were all they had.

29 posted on 08/19/2004 5:42:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: dangus; BlackVeil

BP dates are appropriate in the context of scientific investigations such as the investigation being discussed here. They're not appropriate for ordinary history such as those events you mentioned. All archaeologists have other Chronometric dating systems to use if they have no interest in Christian time frames and the calendar systems tracking those time frames. All anyone would have to do is use an alternative time system and if they chose translate it for the general public (years in the Christian calendar). One such alternate calendar is the Hebrew calendar (official in Israel). I would think most would find it obnoxious if someone were to take that calendar and suddenly claim it was not Jewish at all.

from Overview of Dating -"Many different calendar systems have been created around the world.  They all have in common the fact that they have a starting point from which one can count forward and backward. That point can be in the past, the present, or the future.  Scientists who use chronometric dating methods usually prefer to count years from the present.  With this system, an event that occurred in 1000 B.C. would be written 2950 B.P. (or 2950 years "before the present").  By convention, 1950 A.D. is considered the present." http://anthro.palomar.edu/time/time_2.htm


30 posted on 08/19/2004 6:29:22 PM PDT by Varda
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To: tang-soo
Are AD and CE interchangle or is there a conversion needed

They're interchangable, just as you thought.

CE, according to Webster, stands for Christian Era as well as Common Era, but Common Era is is the prefered usage in academia.

The obvious question is if the two designations are interchangable why change AD to CE?

There are different answers to that question depending upon whom you talk to. My own thoughts on the subject is the obvious denial of Christianity by a segment of academia. Common Era sound less religious than Anno Domini which translates into Year of Our Lord. After one or two generations of students who have been taught to use Common Era it will become standard usage and AD will be forgotten.

The irony is that some Christian churches also use Common Era instead of AD. I suppose those churches want to tone down the religious aspect of church services in favor of a more sensitive, secular, approach to religion.

31 posted on 08/19/2004 9:39:31 PM PDT by Noachian (Legislation without representation is tyranny)
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To: Noachian

You confirmed what I thought was correct. Then my real question follows, "where on earth did they get 66 AD"?
i thought it was well understood the Romans destroyed the Temple in 70 AD. Oops, just answered my own question when I re-read the article. The seige began in 66 leading to the destruction in 70.


32 posted on 08/19/2004 11:18:51 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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