Posted on 05/27/2004 9:31:52 AM PDT by Smogger
Edited on 05/27/2004 9:35:04 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
DENVER (Reuters) - Crime laboratory evidence shows the 19-year-old woman who has accused Kobe Bryant of rape had consensual sex with another man hours after she said the basketball star raped her, MSNBC reported on Wednesday.
The DNA evidence from the prosecution's own laboratory could be introduced in court as early as Thursday when the Los Angeles Laker will be back in an Eagle, Colorado, courtroom for a pre-trial hearing, the cable TV report said.
Bryant's lawyer, Pamela Mackey, laid a bombshell in a prior pre-trial hearing when she suggested the woman had sex within 15 hours after she said she was raped.
Through her attorney, the young woman denied having sex so soon after she said she was raped on June 30 at a Colorado resort where she worked and Bryant was staying for out-patient surgery on his knee.
According to the MSNBC report, fresh sperm and semen samples were found inside the woman's body from samples given during a rape examination and that such evidence would prove she had sex within hours after the incident with Bryant.
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All I can say is Yuck! and double YUCK!
She musta been awfully messy.
An untidy young 'ho to say the least.
This case is a travesty and a sham and a mockery. It's a TRAVESTSHAMMOCKERY!
I just hope they wrap this up early so he can kick some more Timberwolf butt tonight.
Wasn't there a law firm by the name of Travesty, Mockery, and Sham?
The judge should do the world a favor and toss this case. Any money spent on the prosectution from this day forward is a waste of taxpayer dollars, as there is no way in hell that he's going to be found guilty.
In fact, the longer this case goes on, the better will be Kobe's chances of filing a lawsuit of his own.
This was known long ago and did not stop the Judge's decision to proceed. This is probably a defense move to cloud the water.
or maybe
Cheatham, Cummin & Going
It was not introduced into evidence long ago. It was asserted by the defense.
Cloud the water is an understatement. She had sex after she was allegedly raped? How can anyone determine the source of her "injuries?" Then she lied about it to police. There goes her credebility. Her lawyer was repeating the lie just a mere month ago. Not to mention she is covered with jiz from a key prosecution witness.
Try my lawyers: Shyster, Ripov, Gypsum and DeFraud.
This is my most public humiliation yet!
Who cares? If he wasn't doing something really bad to start with, he wouldn't be in this mess. I have no sympathy for Kolbe Bryant. Too many other really important problems in this world to worry about.
Well geee don't read this thread. It's important that people are falsely prosecuted for crimes they didn't commit. At least I think it is. Maybe our standards are slipping some.
Quick turn on FOX news. The judge is reaming the prosecution right now.
This does not prove that he was falsly accused. It will never be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. His word against hers. Some people cause their own problems
Just now saw your ping.
Going to TV right now.
I think the Prosecutor is the one "clouding the water".
From the article:
Prosecutors have said that DNA from someone other than Bryant was found on the underwear the woman wore when she went to the hospital and was the result of mistakenly putting on soiled underwear that had DNA from an earlier sexual episode.
However, the DNA sample taken from her body could refute that line of thinking.
End article.
This girl has probably got some guys DNA on every piece of clothing she owns.
Bump for later read
I think that firm was-- Dewey ,Screwem and Howe.
How the Hell can you prove a negative. If that were true I could accuse you of anything. Say for instance making terrorist threats to me, and of course you could NEVER prove a negative (that you didn't do it).
I am at work, but from what I have heard:
Judge is fed up with the prosecutions delays, embarrasses them in open court.
Prosecution fails to respond to motions on time.
Judge scolded prosecution because they are making it hard for him to set a trail date because they are so unprepared with dates for scientific testing.
You heard exactly right.
I watched the (gasp) PMSNBC report.
State District Judge Terry Ruckriegle issued a rare bench ruling Thursday authorizing the review.
Bryant's defense team alleges that his accuser sent a text message to her ex-boyfriend shortly after her encounter with Bryant.
An attorney for the ex-boyfriend was in court Thursday arguing that allowing the defense access to the phone records would be an invasion of the ex-boyfriend's privacy.
The defense will be allowed to examine the phone records behind closed doors.
Also at the hearing, Bryant's defense team was expected to attack the police work that led to a sexual assault charge against the NBA star.
Prosecutors are fighting the defense bid to call a veteran detective to testify. John Ragle in 1995 criticized the crime-scene investigation in the O.J. Simpson slayings case.
Ruckriegle scheduled open-court arguments on that topic and several others, including a defense request to obtain genetic profiles from unidentified sources.
Although Ruckriegle was expected to set a trial date Thursday, he said that he was unable to do so until some pending issues had been resolved. He chastized the prosecution for missing key deadlines regarding DNA testing.
Following the hearing, Bryant was expected to fly to Los Angeles for an NBA playoff game against Minnesota. It would be the fifth time he has played in a game the night after appearing in court.
Bryant, 25, has said he had consensual sex with a 19-year-old employee of the Vail-area resort where he stayed last summer. If convicted of felony sexual assault, he faces four years to life in prison or 20 years to life on probation and up to $750,000 in fines.
"Who cares? If he wasn't doing something really bad to start with, he wouldn't be in this mess. I have no sympathy for Kolbe Bryant."
So you think he should be convicted of rape because he cheated on his wife?
I missed that; what happened???
No, he won't be convicted of rape. Like I said, his story against hers. Who knows the truth? But the aggravation he is going through is his own making. Remember the right =wing conspiracy? Poor Bill was set up. Yes, Kobe made a mistake - a huge one and while he won't be found guilty he is paying a price.
this is just like the teen rape trial in Orange County....the girl was sleeping with the two defendents and commenting into the video camera that she was now a porn star days before the assault.
seems like the victims are trashing themselves
I think you're right about that; I'm almost positive that he tried to hide this evidence behind the Rape Shield Laws.
Plus, there are a lot of questions about just HOW the accuer's rehab bills were paid; the Colorado Victim fund specifically says $20,000 per victim and her rehab cost $35,000 a month.
Additionally, why did Hulbert request those phone records? Evidently she text messaged a LOT of people on the way home from the hotel!
Even trashy women get raped. Doesn't mean they deserve it. Even murderers can get off if they are rich and can pay for the right attorney and can trash the victum.
Do you belive that Broderick women was raped by Clinton? Maybe she was, maybe she wasn't. No one knows for sure. It can never be known for certain. Rape cases are difficult to prove because there are usually only 2 people there;
Many women are raped everyday but don't report it because they cannot prove it.
I don't care how many people she had sex with before and after, it doesn't mean she wasn't raped by Kobe Bryant.
It certainly doesn't mean the prosecutor framed Kobe. It could mean the proseceutor was inept like Marsha Clark, however.
My point again, is this case can never be proved either way. Kobe will walk but his reputation is shot and so is the young woman.
You're clueless. What is the evidence that this woman was raped?
It's still just being asserted--in its weird way--by the defense. And predictably enough, the court day came and went and the story changed.
When one is not dealing in facts, but spin (see democrat-style strategy which I can spot a mile away), that is just the way it goes.
Next
You highlighted the wrong word.
"could"
As a matter of fact,they are so traumatized,that they find it difficult to even be touched,by anyone;sometimes for months or years after having been raped.
Perhaps you should do just a wee bit more research on topics you want to talk about. :-)
I'm stung!
Where are your cohorts Cinfla, #3Fan, and af_vet?
Who?
Cohorts they are not, I don't know them. But it's the type of malformed conclusion I would expect from one who makes statements about backing horses.
I stick to facts, not innuendo or spin. I haven't made a conclusion unlike many here.
Yeah. Well I find it disturbing too. Let that be a lesson to you. Put some money aside for that day or you might end up with a public defender.
Most defendants can't afford to pay the investigators needed to get to do their own investigation and instead are forced to rely on the states investigation. (ie the Police)
even if they can afford good legal representation.
You must have driven over the speed limit sometime in your life. I think you should be prosecuted for reckless driving and lose your license.
If Kobe Bryant wasn't a famous basketball star, you guys wouldn't be worried about him one bit. If he was just a regular black guy, none of you would care.
Its amazing how many experts on rape have posted on this thread. I am so impressed.
"If Kobe Bryant wasn't a famous basketball star, you guys wouldn't be worried about him one bit. If he was just a regular black guy, none of you would care."
Kettle, meet pot.
"Its amazing how many experts on rape have posted on this thread. I am so impressed."
I'm no Pamela Mackey but I've defended both rape victims and accused rapists. One of my friends is a rape victim. I think I know a little more than the average person about rape. But the great thing about this site is that you don't have to be an expert on any subject to comment, otherwise you'd be silent all the time.
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