Has Andrew Sullivan been “Brocked” a la David Brock?

self | 02-26-04 | WL-Law

[WL-law]

As someone who was once a daily reader of Andrew Sullivan’s blog, and who had enjoyed his appearances on C-Span and elsewhere de-constructing the errors of the left, I like many find his obsession with gay marriage and his new overall tone unreadable and increasingly detestable.

Based on what I understand about gays and their lifestyle generally, marriage has always been the last thing on the gay man’s minds. As Camille Paglia has noted, male gayness can be described as a state of flight away from mothers, from women, from commitment and middle-class “normalcy”. It’s a state of ‘otherness’.

So – are the proponents of gay marriage being honest about their motives?

Well – let’s look at gay marriage cheerleader #1, Andrew Sullivan.

It turns out that while Sullivan was espousing conservative political values during the last couple of years, some gay activists discovered that Andrew had a dark side that would seem to brand him a “moral hypocrite”, in their calculus.

And so they circulated, in gay chats, what they discovered about Andrew.

Here it is: http://milkyloads.tripod.com/

Yes, it’s as bad as it sounds. If you visit the site, keep the kids away. It will open your eyes, though, to the mendacity of Sullivan’s campaign for gay marriage. The link goes to a gay group site where you’ll find where gay politico’s “outed” Sullivan, and they provide a link to what they discovered: Sullivan’s own posted sex ads, where he trolls for men (not “a man”) for anonymous dangerous unprotected HIV+ passing sex. Andrew posted on various cruising sites for rough 'bareback' sex with strangers.

And Andrew even posted pictures of himself – and trust me, it’s him, all right. Sullivan posted nude pictures of himself (face disguised, and one picture that just shows his ass!) and advertises how buff he is (he specifically mentions his 19" neck) and how horny he is to get it on with all "comers" (that's my pun, not his). It clearly is real, and Sullivan apparently immediately pulled the postings once he was caught "with his pants down" (my pun again). I recently saw him on MSNBC recently and observed the big neck he was advertising -- he's been weightlifting and apparently this is a significant plus factor for him in attracting gay trysts.

At any rate, it's clear that Andrew's lifestyle is about sex with strangers, as many as possible, not about "marriage". And, BTW, Sullivan is HIV+, but fails to mention it on one of the ads. And yet -- he's advertising for unprotected (bareback) anal sex.

“Isn't that just special”, as the church lady would say?

So – it appears that Andrew has decided to fend off one accusation of hypocrisy by adopting a hypocritical position that supports the people who outed him. Got it?! It worked on David Brock, and its working with Andrew Sullivan. He’s now back in the good graces of the gay police, -- but Andrew remains as his our own little "Typhoid Mary" spreading HIV (and poisonoud ideas) while he mounts the pulpit preaching to the American public that gays are wholesome and “just want to be loved”, meaning they just want to get married and live normal monogamous lives.

And now he's a different kind of hypocrite -- one that pretends that gays are actually interested in marriage, whereas he knows that gays are gays because they are running away from monogamy and that a fulfilled gay life is one filled with hundreds of partners, not one partner.

And he’s the #1 case-on-point to prove it.

[beckett]

He's gone from the Bush fold. He won't be back. He is a one issue commentator. By that I mean that despite his evident brilliance on a whole range of topics, only one issue really matters to him. And since W has now set himself in opposition to him on that issue, Sullivan will ratchet up his criticism and soon openly call for the president's defeat in November.

Look for Sullivan to endorse Edwards. He's hot for the guy.

[Miles Vorkosigan]

At this rate, that should be about as comical as Michael Moore endorsing Clark (right before his candidacy collapsed).

[Rytwyng]

He refuses to answer email

I beg to differ. I wrote a theological challenge to gay "marriage" and he personally answered me from a non-public email address (ie, not the one he posts on his site.)

[spodefly]

The percentage of gays that are relatively normal (in other than their sexual orientation) is pretty low. I live in a 'gay' area of Atlanta and work with several openly gay people. They are without doubt the most neurotic people I have ever met.

I doesn't surprise me that Andrew Sullivan is going off the deep end when it comes to gay marriage. He has successfully appeared to be 'conservative' to many people over the past several years. But scratch the surface of most gay people and you will find a self-hating neurotic whose almost singular purpose in life (aside from worshipping their own sex organ) is in trying to make the world embrace their perversions.

[CatoRenasci]

If you've read his blog in the past few days, it's clear that he will no longer support Bush. For him, homosexual rights are more important than the War on Terror and Islamofascism. If he were to say something along the lines of "well, I really think Bush is wrong here, but since he is the only candidate who is serious about the war, I have to support him" I'd cut him some slack. But he's done the opposite. Read his blog.

Although, I do find hypocrisy shown by the contrast between his homosexual cruising ads and his writings in favor of a more conservative homosexual life sytle as distasteful in him as I always have in the Jim Baker's and others on the religious right.

[beckett]

By the way, the story about Sullivan's "bareback" sex ads was aired in mainstream media outlets over a year ago.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

For him, homosexual rights are more important than the War on Terror and Islamofascism.

Bingo (sadly).

[Unam Sanctam]

That has been my experience as well -- at most one gets a two or three word flippant response to email, but usually nothing.

[lentulusgracchus]

Anathema sit.

It couldn't be otherwise. Anathema fuit, anathema est, anathema semper esto.

[lentulusgracchus]

Thanks for the rational critique and for witholding ad hominem attacks. This response is helpful to conservatives.

You seem to be more upset about conservatives' ad hominem than you are by Sullivan's in homine.

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

Its amazing how often sex (or perversion) trumps sanity, even for someone who seems as otherwise reasonable as Sullivan.

[veronica]

Like anyone else who didn't like The Passion, Andrew Sullivan who supports President Bush, is getting "the treatment" being crucified, as it were, for his views. Can't you just feel the love, and tolerance. :)

[Miles Vorkosigan]

So which part of my post do you disagree with? Are you denying any of my claims about him? All are off his own website.

Incidentally, if you go to his website now, you'll see that he's now linking, apparently sympathetically, to some wacko left-wing lawyer who's worried that the FMA will eliminate abortions.

[Sabertooth]

Like anyone else who didn't like The Passion, Andrew Sullivan who supports President Bush, is getting "the treatment" being crucified, as it were, for his views. Can't you just feel the love, and tolerance. :)

Are you suggesting that other homosexuals are targeting Sullivan because he didn't like The Passion of the Christ?

[NYCVirago]

So – it appears that Andrew has decided to fend off one accusation of hypocrisy by adopting a hypocritical position that supports the people who outed him. Got it?! It worked on David Brock, and its working with Andrew Sullivan.

Good post. And after Sullivan was "outed" for these ads, he opposed attacks on Clinton over the Lewinsky scandal, and accused Republicans of engaging in "sexual McCarthyism".

[Snuffington]

I think of Andrew Sullivan like I would an addict. He is addicted to his sexual desires, and trashes anything else of value in his life in pursuit of them. His sexual desires have caused him to abandon both his religion (Catholicism) and his politics (Republican). And what's more, there isn't much of an attempt to justify this in anything other than emotional terms.

He is more attached to his homosexual desires than to his faith or his country.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

He is more attached to his homosexual desires than to his faith or his country.>>>

He HATES his country. That's why he's living in ours. I say invoke the anti-queer passage of the Immigration and Nationalization Act and throw his butt back to Merrie Old. "And STAY out!"

[Criminal Number 18F]

By the way, the story about Sullivan's "bareback" sex ads was aired in mainstream media outlets over a year ago.

Sullivan addressed it on his site at the time. He fingered a guy named Michelangelo Signorile as the guy outing him. Apparently we're supposed to know who Michelangelo whatsis is... I don't (nor do I care).

One thing that explains some of Sullivan's aggressiveness in various modes is that he is a big-time testosterone user. That explains also some of the results he gets weight lifting. He has also discussed the testosterone use on his site, I believe it is part of his AIDS therapy... dunno... not looking for any injections here (of either kind).

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F