UFO Invasion at Rendlesham on the SCI FI channel (Live Thread)

www.scifi.com ^ | Friday, December 12, 2003 | Bryant Gumbel

[Quix]

The OSI is secretive and does mysterious things.

But it's a very experienced and well known org with a wide diversity of methods uncommon to normal police and investigative work.

It's understandable that you don't know that. One might suggest humility when in possession of significant ignorance of a topic.

[Quix]

I've known for a long time that there was likely more than one landing site in this situation. This is not that much new information. It wasn't made a big deal of before. But it has been in the literature for a long time per witness reports.

Your skepticism still seems to be in charge of your logic.

[Quix]

You are simply wrong on a number of points of fact.

I gather you have not read the record to any significant degree.

[Quix]

Uhhhh, hello?

They did NOT spend ALL their time looking ONLY through their scopes!

Sheesh!

[Quix]

FOR SURE.

[FreedomCalls]

Riiiight. Sure there are.

<backing away slowly>

[Quix]

For sure.

And he wasn't the only one seeing it more or less up close and personal, as I recall.

[Quix]

Actually,

I consider CLINTON NASTY NUMBNUTS

TO BE EXCEEDINGLY LESS TRUSTWORTHY

than the SciFi channel's

FICTION shows.

[FreedomCalls]

Yet your uh, ..."logic," tells you that little alien men in an interplanetary spacecraft landed in the woods that night.

[Quix]

Uhhhhh, hello . . . ?

It doesNOT matter whether it was the light ship or the light house.

He could clearly see a craft in the air which clearly did not fit either the lighthouse or the light ship.

I can imagine you reporting an incident and many of us not believing you because of your . . . logic or manner or some such.

This is not the case with my reading of these witnesses.

[FreedomCalls]

So do the same experiment then. Play the tape and time the observations. You will find the period to be precisely the same as the rotation of the Orfordness lighthouse. The Shipwash lightship beacon flashed at a faster rate still.

[Momaw Nadon]

I think this was an authentic ET UFO.

What are your main arguments to support this assertion?

[Quix]

Welllllll, if you believe he was lying,

I think you have not interviewed many people

and/or

you are so skeptical that it wouldn't matter how accurate your personality etc. assessment skills were.

I found him exceedingly believable. I found it highly unlikely he was even consciously or unconsciously distorting things very significantly and far to ridiculous that he would be lying.

[Quix]

Raht.

Triangular 3 point indentations in the soil would clearly have NOTHING to do with a triangular craft.

/sarcasm.

[Quix]

Not at all convincingly to me.

His argument has holes big enough to drive a convoy of semi's through.

[Quix]

Thanks.

Just too many puzzle pieces in that direction.

1) Their usual tendency to dink around with, probe, even disable nuclear weapons seems to be repeated in this case.

[MissAmericanPie]

I don't doubt that they saw something, and they realize the credibility they are putting on the line in coming forward.

It would take a very profound event to coax someone out of their comfort zone into the spotlight of world opinion. Some think it was an ET event, others think it's some secret aircraft of our own, and other's think it's a visit from residents of our own future that have traveled back in time.

In the bible Daniel records such events as being a result of the "watchers" and the "ancient ones". Rather than being ET's the bible refers to them as super natural immortals from another dimension, perhaps a spiritual dimension. I think I can buy that easier than them being from another planet. No matter how fast the craft, it would take many lifetimes to travel here from another planet.

[FreedomCalls]

He could clearly see a craft in the air which clearly did not fit either the lighthouse or the light ship.

That's where you are mistaken. It DID fit the lighthouse. He thought he was seeing both the UFO and the lighthouse. But the directions he gave match up with the lightship being at the location he thought was the lighthouse and the lighthouse being at the location he thought was the UFO. He thought he was seeing the UFO and the lighthouse, but he was actually seeing the lightship and the lighthouse. Like I said, the lightship was not always lit and he was not familiar with it.

[Quix]

That the lighthouse theory is a

shallow, transparent, obvious

pile of horse manure

several times bigger than the UFO(s) involved.

[Quix]

Back away all you wish.

You will have to deal with the reality in your lifetime. And it is not likely to be smooth or pretty though it may be billed that way depending on how the puppet masters feel they can best play it to their best advantage.

I suppose I could apologize for getting so weary of folks who are clearly little read in the extensive literature of the last 50 years.

And I suppose I can't blame you for not having had close relatives or friends involved with such craft and programs.

But your dogmatic, religious skepticism still rather annoys me and somewhat still surprises me.