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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 11-13
Various | November 10, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/10/2003 8:35:02 PM PST by sweetliberty

TERRI'S FIGHT
(Thread 7 - November 11-13)

Link back to thread 6 - (Nov.8-10)
Link back to thread 5 - (Nov. 5-7)
Link back to thread 4 - (Nov. 3-4)
Link back to thread 3 (Nov. 1-2)
Link back to thread 2 - (Oct. 30-31)
Link back to thread 1 - (Oct. 29)

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Contained in Thread 6:

*Correction on thread 6. In the heading where it says, "contained in thread 4," it should read, "contained in thread 5."

Contact information for Judge Greer, probate documents listed for Terry and Michael Schiavo, article from April, 2001 when Terri's feeding tube was ordered by Judge Quesada to be put back in pending deposition of Cindy Shook Brashers, link to clip of Steve Schiavo calling in to Glenn Beck's program, link to information on Schiavo/Centonze property value, link to transcript of On the Record interview with Ken Connor, link to American Patriot Friends Network, link to hospicepatients.org website, article about the testimony of Trudy Capone, link to post about co-sponsor of Terri's Bill in the House, Frank Attkisson giving legal reasons for the need for intervention on Terri's behalf, link to Hospice Patients Alliance website, statement that 9 neurologists have said that Terri is NOT in a PVS, Washington, D.C.contact information via email/fax, summary of legal expenses that Schiavo paid out of the money awarded to him for Terri’s care and rehabilitation, also see chart here for summary of legal expenses, This Round to Terri, But Fight Not Over article in Catholic Standard & Times (10/23/2003), another article, Schindlers Wonder What Happened the Night Terri Collapsed form Catholic Standard and Times:, and a serious question that is raised and needs to be researched.

Also in thread 6 (breaking it down into 2 paragraphs due to the length): information on holdings of Jodi Centonze, was Terri beaten(?), liability claims against Terri’s doctors, chronology of cases against Michael Schiavo, Schiavo v. Bush, who’s paying hospice(?), some quotes from George Felos’ book here and here, Jodi Centonze insurance connections, link to Village Voice article: Lying about Terri Schiavo, federal prohibition of use of funds for assisted suicide and euthanasia, the model husband according to George Felos (also see addition here), findings of Florida medical board on Dr. Hammersfahr and some facts about Judge Greer regarding this case.

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Click on pic for Terri's website
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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

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KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; buttout; cultureofdeath; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; righttolife; schiavo; schiavothread; schindler; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: Graymatter
Then he should be charged with at least 3 counts...
Make him waste more time and atty $$ on fighting that
too, etc..open up another legal front, the more the better...

I wonder why he killed her kittens (cats) ?
and melted her weddings,hmm?
101 posted on 11/11/2003 1:05:20 PM PST by Orlando (Happy Veterans Day...193rd,Inf Bn,)
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To: Orlando
Pearse didn't say Michael had children in 1998...the article dated 2003 said that.
102 posted on 11/11/2003 1:06:43 PM PST by Krodg
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To: Orlando
wedding rings
103 posted on 11/11/2003 1:11:28 PM PST by Orlando (Happy Veterans Day...193rd,Inf Bn,)
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To: Krodg
okay, what about Pearse investigation reports and findings
and recommendations to the court ? anyway we can see this report and read it ?
104 posted on 11/11/2003 1:15:05 PM PST by Orlando (Happy Veterans Day...193rd,Inf Bn,)
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To: iowamomforfreedom
I read that earlier and his 'refused comment' didn't connect with his 'emphatically denied' comments in my small pea brain. I thought I had found something major.... I need to learn to pay attention. LOL
105 posted on 11/11/2003 1:15:55 PM PST by Krodg
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To: Budge
"We would like to extend our "Welcome" to the new "Director of Clinical Training and Software Implementation" for Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, Cindy Jacquemin. Cindy was a "Clinical Software Trainer" for Suncoast Solutions.

T'wit - Didn't WJB CLinton have something to do with a scandal with Software Soultions? Perhaps when he as the Governor of Arkansas?"

Link to Suncoast Solutions software at http://www.sncoast.com

A page about Suncoast Solutions is at the hospice's website at http://www.thehospice.org/scsolutions.htm

Suncoast The page title is, "Solutions Founded to Serve Those Served by Hospices".

A quote from that page:

"Suncoast Solutions was founded to develop software programs and efficiencies for The Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, which has acted as the test site for the software."

Apparently this was an inside move/promotion. Another piece in the jigsaw puzzle.

106 posted on 11/11/2003 1:22:53 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: Graymatter
All of which tells me it's a false rumor and we don't help Terri's cause by falsehoods.

If it is false rumors, it didn't start here. At least two other women have brought those claims public and we are only trying to discern whether or not they are true.

The article I posted was based on Trudy Capone's affidavit and Felos' response. She swore to it and he denied it. We didn't do anything to hurt Terri.

107 posted on 11/11/2003 1:25:35 PM PST by Krodg
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To: nicmarlo
Not so complicated to understand. Felos is a pathological liar it seems, and when he isn't lying outright, he is using the Clintonian version of the dictionary of liberalese.
108 posted on 11/11/2003 1:27:46 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Krodg
Michael and Jodi's first child was born in late September of 2002.
109 posted on 11/11/2003 1:29:07 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: FR_addict; Budge
yw; I just love finding lies!
110 posted on 11/11/2003 1:30:20 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: All
MS starved his own father to death "before" he starved his own mother to death. Now we know his mother was against Terri being starved to death. But did his mother want her husband starved to death? Did his mother sign over guardianship of her husband to her MS?
111 posted on 11/11/2003 1:30:40 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Glad you are here. Hope you will able to stick around.
112 posted on 11/11/2003 1:30:41 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Graymatter
Well, the allegations that he has more than the 2 children are not coming from just one place apparently. See my post here.
113 posted on 11/11/2003 1:36:44 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Republic
"that is such a breach of ethics it is almost breathtaking."

I suspect that Felos' relatinship with ethics is similar to his relationship with truth...useful when conventient, usually as a standard to hold OTHER people to.

114 posted on 11/11/2003 1:40:22 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Chocolate Rose
MS starved his own father to death "before" he starved his own mother to death. Now we know his mother was against Terri being starved to death. But did his mother want her husband starved to death? Did his mother sign over guardianship of her husband to her MS?

Michael's mother died July 2, 1997, his father died april 15, 2002.

115 posted on 11/11/2003 1:43:20 PM PST by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:)
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To: Graymatter
Apparently the Schindlers didn't even realize that Terri had been abused because Bobby kept it from them, thinking it would be too upsetting for them.

I don't think it is so unlikely that they wouldn't know if there is another child or 2. Maybe Bobby nor Suzanne know either. I don't suspect until now that an investigator would have necessarily been looking for this information. As much tomcatting around as Schiavo did, I don't have too hard a time believing that there might be another little Michael or 2 running around. A million and half dollars can buy a lot of silence.

I don't know if it's true or not, but it seems relevant that the allegation was made more than once and that Felos evaded the question....back in 2001, before Jodi and Michael's 1'st child was born.

116 posted on 11/11/2003 1:47:30 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Graymatter; Orlando; Krodg
"If MS has other children besides the latest two, the Schindlers must certainly know about it. They have hired detectives, haven't they?
The "KW" letter has not been substantiated, there's no documentation or affidavit, and in all these 13 years it has never come up in court (about the earlier child or children).
All of which tells me it's a false rumor and we don't help Terri's cause by falsehoods."

Birth certificates might help settle the confusion as to the number of children, and who their mothers are. They have to be somewhere.

Some states and counties have this kind of information online, along with records of deaths and marriages. Maybe one of the more adept database searchers can turn up something.

117 posted on 11/11/2003 1:49:21 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: Wampus SC
Oops, looks like I missed a link:

Terri Schiavo, life insurance, and insurers duty to cancel if beneficiary is trying to kill insured

118 posted on 11/11/2003 1:51:50 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty; Graymatter
From Tampa Tribune article dated May 10, 2001:

Felos would not comment on Capone's statement that, since Terri Schiavo's illness, Michael Schiavo has fathered two children with another woman. Schiavo has acknowledged that he has, for years, been engaged to his current fiancee.

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To obtain the whole article at the Tampa Tribune:

2nd Schiavo friend speaks
Published on May 10, 2001, Article 3 of 3 found.

CLEARWATER - A nurse who says she was close friends with Michael Schiavo has emerged as the latest witness in the fight over his wife's right to die.

Trudy Capone's sworn statements echo those of a former girlfriend of Schiavo's who surfaced last month. But Schiavo's attorney contends neither woman is talking about Terri Schiavo's right to die when they quote her husband as having doubts about what to do for her.

Instead, both Capone and Cyndi (The Tampa Tribune, 656 words.) ...

Complete article $1.95

or

You can find it here, free: 2nd Schiavo friend speaks

119 posted on 11/11/2003 1:56:27 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: 4Godsoloved..Hegave
I thought his father died first. I stand corrected.Thanks ;-)
120 posted on 11/11/2003 1:56:54 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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