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Joe Biden’s Bet That 2016 Didn’t Change Everything
The Atlantic ^ | May 19, 2019 | Edward-Isaac Dovere

Posted on 05/20/2019 3:17:25 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

PHILADELPHIA—If the new rules of politics post-2016 were to hold up, the official launch rally Joe Biden held here on Saturday would mean that he is in trouble: The crowd wasn’t huge, was largely white and older, and, for the most part, only really got into it when he mentioned Barack Obama or Donald Trump.

Yet Biden’s high-and-getting-higher poll numbers, the early fundraising success that has surprised even his own aides, and the enthusiastic responses I heard from supporters who came out on a hot afternoon to see him don’t show a candidate in much trouble at all. Biden’s campaign is a bet: that in the four years since Trump launched his campaign, the country hasn’t changed, the Democratic Party hasn’t changed, and politics hasn’t changed.

If any of Biden’s competitors believed the same thing, they wouldn’t be planning killer schedules in Iowa, New Hampshire, and beyond, giving up vacations and time with their family to meet with donors and activists and to have reporters constantly shove microphones in their face. Trump and Bernie Sanders were the breakout candidates of the last presidential election, but unlike most of the other people running, Biden and his aides haven’t adjusted to that reality—because they don’t accept that it is reality.

Biden’s message is very Trump-aware: “If you’d asked me a few years ago if our democracy was at stake, I would have smiled and laughed a little bit,” the former vice president said on Saturday. “No more: The threat to this nation, to our democracy, is real, it’s clear, and it’s present.”

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2020; biden; joebiden
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1 posted on 05/20/2019 3:17:25 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s an articulate, clean (white) man...


2 posted on 05/20/2019 3:21:27 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Biden’s message: “If you’d asked me a few years ago if our democracy was at stake, I would have smiled
and laughed a little bit. No more: The threat to this nation, to our democracy, is real, it’s clear, and it’s present.”

Mmmmmm.....he's so adept at making memorable political statements.......BOL.

3 posted on 05/20/2019 3:22:02 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: wastoute

One of those is important to Democrats and it ain’t how well he speaks (obviously) or how often he bathes.


4 posted on 05/20/2019 3:22:42 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

DNC is using the Biden “campaign” as a fund-raiser targeting whatever “moderate” Democrats are left. That’s who is supporting Biden, the white “moderate” middle class who do not identify with the radical left of the party. Then, when the time comes, the DNC will put Joe back on the shelf where he belongs and use the PAC dollars he collected to fund Kamala Harris and whomever she chooses as her running mate. No one seriously expects a white septuagenarian male to ever occupy the White House again. With the rapidly shifting demographics we are getting from the destruction of our country’s sovereignty and the invasion at the southern border, the odds are seriously against it, guys.


5 posted on 05/20/2019 3:37:33 AM PDT by 4Runner
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In a 1993 speech, Biden used racist-type language that is coming back to haunt the 2020 wannabe:
Biden described a "cadre of young people (he means Black people), tens of thousands of them, born out of wedlock,
without parents, without supervision, without any structure, without any conscience ... because they literally have not been socialized....
Biden said if we dont focus on them now a portion of them, will become the predators 15 years from now."

Biden was echoing the Clintons-----then-Pres Bill signed into law stiffer penalties for inner city criminals.......

Then-Pres Bill Clinton's 1994 crime bill contributed to
<><> stiffer penalties for inner city criminals,
<><> mass incarcerations of minorities,
<><> It encouraged and for the first time the US had a federal three-strikes and you're out law,
<><> It funded the building of more prisons in the states.....

Fist Lady Hillary took to the mic to burnish her ambitions, and stupidly called the black criminals "super-predators."
"We have to bring them to heel," Hillary insisted.

Black protesters showed up at her 2016 campaign events, reminding her of her choice of words to describe them.


6 posted on 05/20/2019 3:44:33 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Joe Biden’s Bet That 2016 Didn’t Change Everything.

Just another of Gropin Joe’s tsunami of screw ups over the last 50 years. MORON.

7 posted on 05/20/2019 3:53:57 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sleepy Joe campaigning in Danville Virginia and thought he was in North Carolina? Guess he slept across the line. Disturbing


8 posted on 05/20/2019 4:11:28 AM PDT by Recompennation
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sleepy Joe campaigning in Danville Virginia and thought he was in North Carolina? Guess he slept across the line. Disturbing


9 posted on 05/20/2019 4:19:18 AM PDT by Recompennation
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To: Liz

Man’s greatest failing may be routine as in habit. It is a vestige of caveman days when today being the same as yesterday meant safety.

In a modern political context, it means that Biden’s faux-breezy portrayal of the awful Obama years as The Good Times is a tough sell when those years are contrasted with the Trump years that directly followed them.

One minute Joe’s talking about ‘dignity in politics’ (a laughable oxymoron), the next he’s saying our democracy is at stake. This is not messaging...it’s futile, blind clutching at straws.

Note that the press are not amplifying his nonsense outright. They are hedging their bets by talking about strategy, polls, frontrunner status etc. The truth is they don’t think he can win because they watch the old codger’s stage managed silliness and know he doesn’t have the physical and mental stamina required.


10 posted on 05/20/2019 4:43:48 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Liz

He was right in his 1993 speech.


11 posted on 05/20/2019 4:46:47 AM PDT by bort
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Joe Boughtden has a Huge CU problem. Hunter, China and Ukrane.


12 posted on 05/20/2019 4:47:49 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: relictele
One minute Joe’s talking about ‘dignity in politics’ (a laughable oxymoron), the next
he’s saying our democracy is at stake. This is not messaging...it’s futile, blind clutching at straws.

Agreed......but this is the way sap-happy liberals think. They'll be blindly latching onto joe...no questions asked.

13 posted on 05/20/2019 4:55:48 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

Hey Joe try to remember January 20, 2017 the White House. Everything by the book.


14 posted on 05/20/2019 5:10:29 AM PDT by magua (Because itÂ’s being reported that a lot of this started in 2015.)
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To: wastoute

He’s a mean clean gaffe-in machine


15 posted on 05/20/2019 5:16:24 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Liz

Scumbag Joe won’t tell you that his administration with Obama was the attack on US democracy. Globalism; aviding the legislative process going straight to Executive Orders, unratified international treaties, and judicial fiat; weaponizing the EPA, IRS, DOJ, SOS, CIA, and FBI to go after private citizens because they were political enemies.

Then there is the silent coup the IRS, CIA, FBI, DOJ, and MSM engaged in with Obama White House orchestration.

FUJB


16 posted on 05/20/2019 5:20:07 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: 4Runner

We have the oldest candidates ever seeking the presidency (many are older than Reagan was, when his age was raised as an issue) as well as the first millennial candidate (Vladmir Buttin turned 18 in January 2000).


17 posted on 05/20/2019 5:24:30 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Liz

I look forward to the daily spinal contortions as Joe excoriates the white voter while desperately needing the white vote.

Although the media have convinced many that traditional Dem voters will go along with this self-abasement they are, as usual, counting their bridges before they cross them.


18 posted on 05/20/2019 5:31:53 AM PDT by relictele
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To: a fool in paradise

Well put!

I don’t see how Joe gets away from the terrible legacy of Obama. Targeted drone kills, investigating reporters, pallets of cash to Iran, caving to China and kissing the a** of every despot in the world (while taking payola).

Biden also seems tired. He drinks a lot (hence his grabby touchy mode) and can’t handle the physical toll of a long campaign. He’ll be passing out like Hillary before it’s over - if he’s in it for the long haul. Expecting the Clinton machine to knock Joe out and Hillary be “drafted” at the convention.


19 posted on 05/20/2019 5:34:23 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Targeted drone kills were the motivation behind the bisexual Obama voting Islamist shooting up that gay nightclub in Orlando Florida. He said so on that 911 call while engaging in the attack.


20 posted on 05/20/2019 5:36:51 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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