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Democrats agree: They ignored, talked down to rural voters, and lost them
The Quad City Times ^ | October 14, 2017 | Erin Murphy Lee, Des Moines Bureau

Posted on 10/14/2017 8:00:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

With a cardboard cutout of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton in front of him, U.S. Agriculture Secretary and former Iowa governor Tom Vilsack speaks Sunday at the Central Iowa Democrats' fundraiser at Iowa State University's Hansen Agriculture Student Learning Center in Ames.

DES MOINES -- Rural Iowa shifted its political direction in 2016 and caught Democrats off guard.

The conversation of how to earn back those votes is dominating the conversation among Democrats these days.

It was the focus by speakers at a recent fundraiser held by Democrats from Polk County, which is dominated by the city of Des Moines and its suburbs, as they talked about the party’s need to reach voters outside the state’s biggest cities.

This week in Des Moines, Democrats gathered again to discuss the need to regain the trust of rural voters at an event organized by a new national advocacy group formed for the sole purpose of having that conversation.

“We have to make our argument with courage, and we have to make it everywhere,” said Jason Kander, a former Missouri secretary of state and Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in 2016.

Kander was one of the speakers at the event in Des Moines hosted by New Democracy, an advocacy group formed to help expand Democrats’ appeal in the Midwest, the region that Democrats’ losses took the biggest hit in the 2016 elections. Formerly blue states like Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania all flipped to Republicans in the presidential election.

That swing was magnified in Iowa, a state that went twice for Democrat Barack Obama but in 2016 went for Republican Donald Trump by almost 10 percentage points.

From the 2012 to 2016 elections, the state swung nearly 15 points from the Democratic candidate to the Republican.

Obama won 38 counties in 2012; 32 of those went for Trump in 2016.

Most of those 32 counties that swung away from Democrats were in rural areas, particularly in eastern Iowa.

“(The 2016 election) brought home a reality that we were dimly aware of, but were not focused on,” said Will Marshall, who formed New Democracy. “We have to expand the party and we have to expand in all directions, reaching beyond our core partisans and engaging voters who are not now Democrats or are not now voting for us.”

Marshall added, “We have to go everywhere and build real, winning coalitions and majorities again.”

So how do Democrats earn the support of rural voters?

“Before the Democrats can win over the folks you mention, they have to get these folks to be willing to listen to them,” said Dennis Goldford, a political science professor at Drake University and author of a book on Iowa’s first-in-the-nation presidential caucuses. “You don’t do that with a list of policy proposals; you do that by presenting an overarching vision for the country that respects them and includes them.”

“Calling them delplorables or focusing on an identity politics that speaks to every group that’s not them will not accomplish that,” Goldford said.

That message seems to be getting through to Democrats.

“What happened in Iowa (in 2016) unfortunately and tragically has happened all over the United States. Because our party, for whatever reason, stopped showing up and stopped competing effectively in rural areas,” said Tom Vilsack, the former two-term Iowa governor and U.S. ag secretary for all eight years of the Obama administration. “We stopped understanding the hopes, the dreams, the aspirations, and yes the frustration and anger of those who live, work and raise their families in rural areas. We forgot how to talk to folks, and when we did we often talked down.”

How Democrats talk to rural voters is a problem, said John Anzalone, a Democratic pollster. The website for the polling firm ALG Research, in which Anzalone is a partner, believes he has helped beat more incumbent Republicans and take back more Republican seats than any other polling firm in the nation.

Anzalone said Democrats can get trapped by holding hard-core stances on issues like immigration, and by holding contempt for voters who don’t agree 100 percent with their stance on the issue.

“The problem is is that ... we, generally, as Democrats, if they have those feelings, we kind of treat them like idiots. We condescend, literally treat them like idiots in elections,” Anzalone said. “And I think that this is a really big problem that we have to figure out, to understand that their values and their concerns aren’t ones that we can just dismiss, in small towns or big towns. Because a lot of what I’m talking about is actually in suburbia, in a place like West Des Moines.”

Anzalone said, when that happens, as Goldford alluded to, voters will tune out Democrats regardless of whether they are talking about the right issues.

Many Democrats have said they must shift their message in 2018 and beyond to focus on jobs and the economy. But, Anzalone said, none of that will matter unless Democrats first learn how to talk to voters on issues with which they may not perfectly align with Democrats.

“We want to talk about believing that there is a magic fairy dust on our economic message,” Anzalone said.

Democrats can do that simply by being genuine, multiple leaders say.

Kander said, while there is a debate within the party about which direction it should go ideologically -- more to the left or more to the center -- he feels it’s more important for Democrats to be genuine and honest, and that voters will respond better to that regardless of the candidate’s ideology.

Kansas City mayor Sly James said it’s about listening, not pandering.

“It’s not about putting on overalls, sitting on a tractor and acting like you know what it’s about,” James said. “That ain’t what it’s about. It’s about listening to them.”

If Democrats do that -- simply listen -- they may begin to win back those rural voters they have lost, said Matt McCoy, an Iowa state senator from Des Moines.

“Our future is not how we talk to rural Iowa,” McCoy said, “but rather how we listen.”


TOPICS: Iowa; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: democrats; hillary; iowa; voters
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“What happened in Iowa (in 2016) unfortunately and tragically has happened all over the United States. Because our party, for whatever reason, stopped showing up and stopped competing effectively in rural areas,” said Tom Vilsack, the former two-term Iowa governor and U.S. ag secretary for all eight years of the Obama administration. “We stopped understanding the hopes, the dreams, the aspirations, and yes the frustration and anger of those who live, work and raise their families in rural areas. We forgot how to talk to folks, and when we did we often talked down.”

LOL! It's because your party said "Screw the White voters!!!" But you can't come out and say that publicly can you?

21 posted on 10/14/2017 10:10:47 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats destroy the Middle Class. It's what they do.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did the card board cutout of Hillary have a hard time standing up too? (was it realistic?)


22 posted on 10/14/2017 10:37:00 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why was a cutout of HRC there? How bizarre.


23 posted on 10/14/2017 10:43:58 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Our future is not how we talk to rural Iowa,” McCoy said, “but rather how we listen.”


Evidently that is the result of the latest focus group..................


24 posted on 10/15/2017 12:03:47 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Billthedrill

Bicoastal Ghetto

is the Democrat Party.


25 posted on 10/15/2017 12:35:35 AM PDT by TheNext (Win Win)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

[snip] “Calling them deplorables or focusing on an identity politics that speaks to every group that’s not them will not accomplish that,” Goldford said. [/snip]

IOW, letting the mask slip a little to confirm once and for all what the jackbooted Party of the Single Party State is really about has damaged their brand, making it difficult to build a “durable majority”, in order to be able to brand little eight digit numbers on our arms.


26 posted on 10/15/2017 12:35:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A cardboard Hillary?

Just a little gust of wind, and Hillary goes down flat on her face. Somehow that seems appropriate.


27 posted on 10/15/2017 12:44:02 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: Fresh Wind

28 posted on 10/15/2017 12:46:18 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In effect, The Democratic Party has become the party of the denizens of fictional capital city of Panem from the Hunger Games novel trilogy.

I suggest reading especially the first novel, "The Hunger Games." Suzanne Collins' vivic description of the denizens of that capital city from that novel as indulgent, parochial and sanctimonious is a perfect description of the Democratic Party of 2017 with its urban-dominated voters.

29 posted on 10/15/2017 2:47:26 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Export jobs, import millions of illegal aliens and give them lots of freebies, discriminate against straight white rural males in employment, and then tell them they are ignorant.

That is the Democratic plan—but since they figured rural white people are Neanderthals they could make it happen.

Who are the Neanderthals now?


30 posted on 10/15/2017 3:25:00 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Tucker39

“Sounds to me like their only intent is to sucker their former voters into coming back...”

Exactly. They’re in quite a pickle. They’re either going to have to change their wicked, wicked ways and policies sincerely, or lie their asses off to snooker the dem and independent voters. I believe that the voters are beginning to see through and question simple rhetoric, so the politicians actually will have to take some action before they’ll win anyone over. If they take actions that are reasonable, then they’ll lose the loony alt-left. What’s a crook to do?


31 posted on 10/15/2017 3:36:25 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (A person's greatest strength is his greatest weakness.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Lying is a politician’s Plan A, B, and C.

There is no plan D.


32 posted on 10/15/2017 4:36:47 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How can you tell whether it's a cardboard cut out or the real Hillary Clinton?

And I agree in a sense with the premise of the article. They're right - they need to be genuine, and go loud and proud, full hard left, like they really want to. Until and less they get to the left of Karl Marx, announce it proudly and then stay there, they're never going to go anywhere with the American people. That's what they need to do, and we need to help them with that message where ever possible.

33 posted on 10/15/2017 4:55:40 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: Hardastarboard
How can you tell whether it's a cardboard cut out or the real Hillary Clinton?

Look at the profile. The real Hillary is now a fat slob; cardboard is thin in profile.

34 posted on 10/15/2017 5:29:56 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (White is the new Black.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the RATS follow their usual MO, they’ll treat the rural voters as another interest group to manage by creating a formal outreach effort with a staff and a so-called ambassador whose job is to talk to rural voters to give them the warm and fuzzies that Democrats care about them because they’re now recognized as, ta da, an interest group. There will benot one iota difference in the Democrat message that actually alienates rural voters, but by golly, they will have ambassador talking to them now. We saw how well similar outreach has worked for the RATS with evangelicals.


35 posted on 10/15/2017 6:50:40 AM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

And they’re both fake. :-)


36 posted on 10/15/2017 7:15:52 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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37 posted on 10/15/2017 8:22:47 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: Luke21

No kidding. It’s ridiculous.


38 posted on 10/30/2017 6:24:54 PM PDT by NorthstarMom
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