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Sunday Political Brunch—Will Florida Mark the End of Trump Presidency? (Jeb? Hahahaha!)
The Telegram & Gazette ^ | August 20, 2017 | Mark Curtis

Posted on 08/20/2017 12:18:25 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The “brunch” is on the road for the next two weeks, assessing what’s going on in the politics of some key states. Those states might decide the fates and fortunes of the Trump Presidency and the Republican-led Congress in 2018 and 2020, so let’s “brunch” on that this week:

“As Florida Goes; So, Goes the Nation” – The Sunshine State is becoming a bellwether of American politics, not only a key battleground for the White House, but for Congressional influence as well. In the last ten Presidential elections, Florida has been on the losing side only once. Now, as the third most populous state, with 29 Electoral College votes, it’s a kingmaker.

“The First Test” – The 2018 midterm Congressional elections will indeed be the first litmus test of Donald Trump’s Presidency. It will be the first time that voters nationwide will get to vote up or down on House and Senate candidates, in part based on their support of Trump. Republicans are strongly targeting six U.S. Senate seats, including the one occupied by Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL). Governor Rick Scott (R-FL) is term-limited and may run for the Senate. Some polls show Nelson with a big lead for now; while other polls are much closer. Other candidates are in, too, so this could be a big fight.

“20/20 Vision” – I am all but certain that President Trump will face a challenge for re-nomination in 2020. The first name that comes to mind is that of Governor John Kasich (R-OH). Kasich is termed-out and has just over a year left as Ohio Governor. He was never a Trump guy. Even after many in the GOP begrudgingly supported their nominee, Kasich did not. He didn’t even attend the Republican National Convention, which was held in Cleveland. Kasich is one of a few prominent Republicans on the national stage who will be able to say, “See! I told you so!” He has a long resume and could carry the key swing state of Ohio. Keep an eye on him.

“Internal Party Fights” – In my lifetime, four sitting Presidents faced internal party fights when they were up for re-nomination. Their opponents are in parentheses: Lyndon Johnson (Senator Eugene McCarthy, Senator Robert Kennedy, and others); Gerald Ford (Governor Ronald Reagan); Jimmy Carter (Senator Ted Kennedy); and George H.W. Bush (Pat Buchanan). In each case, the incumbent either dropped out or lost in the general election. Primary fights are expensive and bruising. And when party members can’t rally around an incumbent, that makes independent voters more likely to bolt, as well. An internal party challenge to President Trump in 2020 seems probable.

“Marco Rubio” – Since we are in Florida and talking about a potential nomination challenge to President Trump, I must mention some possible Sunshine State candidates. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) ran for President in 2016 and was crushed. But in 2020, he’ll be in his second U.S. Senate term, and will still be just 49 years old. Of Cuban decent from South Florida, he will have huge appeal in the all-important Hispanic demographic, not just in Florida, but nationwide. He has already condemned President Trump’s confusing and seemingly contradictory remarks about the events in Charlottesville, Virginia, so Rubio may be planning another White House bid.

“Jeb Bush” – Former Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL) may be making plans for another White House bid soon, as well. Former Presidents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush issued strong anti-racism statements this week; and while they did not mention President Trump or his comments directly, there appeared to be implied criticism of Trump's response to the incidents in Charlottesville. Look! It’s no secret that members of the powerful Bush family are not fans of Trump. The elder Bushes may be urging Jeb towards another Presidential run.

“The Florida Melting Pot” – People have often asked me whether the Southern states vote in a block; and for many years, my answer was “Yes.” Why has Florida now bucked the trend? Yes, Florida is still very Southern, but with an influx of millions of people from New York and the Northeast along the I-95 corridor and with so many Midwesterners along the I-75 corridor, it is truly a state of many diverse people, cultures, and voices. Florida is beholden to neither political party.

“Trump’s Not Done” – I’ve had many people tell me in the past week that the Trump Presidency is over and simply can’t recover from the latest controversies. I disagree. Incumbency is a powerful asset, and being the current occupant of the White House is an advantage never to be discounted. To be sure, Trump is his own worst enemy. The constant provocative tweeting and then the mixed messages on Charlottesville do not serve him well. But neither did the crude “Access Hollywood” tapes, and Trump still won the election. Folks, it’s August, 2017; and we are a long, long way from November, 2020. A lot can happen between now and then.

Do you think President Trump is finished, or does his Presidency still have legs? Just click the comment button at www.MarkCurtisMedia.com.


TOPICS: Florida; Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: bush; florida; rubio; trump
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1 posted on 08/20/2017 12:18:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In other news, a lot of idiots took NyQuil as a substitute for covfefe. MAGA!


2 posted on 08/20/2017 12:21:09 AM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy is kidding, right? Nobody likes any of the above except for Trump. I would vote for a mangy dog over those dorks.


3 posted on 08/20/2017 12:27:53 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

The same fools that will run Hillary again. Watch and see.


4 posted on 08/20/2017 12:33:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Milk - it does a body good.


5 posted on 08/20/2017 12:41:28 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry Bush but Trump is the first president in over one entire generation who is 100% pro-American.

That is why he was elected.

That is why you were NOT


6 posted on 08/20/2017 12:48:53 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What an idiot.

Who is this yob?


7 posted on 08/20/2017 12:58:27 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are still pushing Jeb? The millions he spent for the pathetic results he got and the lamestream media still brings him up ? A mosquito would have a better chance of winning!


8 posted on 08/20/2017 1:01:39 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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Next, they need Jeb to run against Chelsea. He’ll play the same dumb well-I-tried-act again while fools throw another $100+ million dollars away.

This nation will never, EVER elect Jeb Bush to the Presidency. It WAS stupid enough to elect Obama to the pResidency twice, but it sure ain’t gonna vote in Jeb.

(no, that is not an endorsement of Lieawatha, Jill AlFrankenStein, ChelseaClintonFoundation, etc.).

Just say Jeb is perhaps the most laughable attempt the GOP Establishment ever had - though it was obviously set in motion to hand things to HilLiary.


9 posted on 08/20/2017 1:06:54 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: SaveFerris

Just saying


10 posted on 08/20/2017 1:07:48 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jen is still in denial of how bad he got beat


11 posted on 08/20/2017 1:19:50 AM PDT by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If President Trump had a dollar for every media outlet and idiot that said “he’s finished”, he’d be a billionaire.


12 posted on 08/20/2017 1:55:55 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Foam Boy and Tippy Toes??? No thanks.


13 posted on 08/20/2017 3:09:28 AM PDT by Ray76 (Republicans are a Democrat party front group.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stay out da Lieberal Booshies ...


14 posted on 08/20/2017 3:55:47 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth ( Freep u, Schmucky)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kasich is an arrogant @sshole who no one likes, Rubio is ineligible to the office, and no one is voting for Jeb.

All 3 will not last through two debates with Trump in 2020.


15 posted on 08/20/2017 4:03:49 AM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Florida must get rid of the dweeb Nelson.
I liked Jeb as the governor of Florida, ( my state) and voted for him in the primary, but when he wouldn’t back Trump he broke the cardinal rule of any political party, which is if you are beaten in the primary, you still support the party candidate. Now he can’t be trusted.
Rubio needs to go, he thinks he’s a power broker, but he hasn’t earned squat or delivered anything to the voters here. My real problem is my Congressional Rep, due to gerrymandering is Charlie Crist. ( tiny violin jokes appropriate now)


16 posted on 08/20/2017 4:28:01 AM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; BufordP
It’s no secret that members of the powerful Bush family are not fans of Trump.

I'm not a fan of the Bush family either.

17 posted on 08/20/2017 4:47:53 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Entirely different story today. The author of this piece needs a mental exam. If the party tries to primary Trump and succeeds, I and millions of other former Republicans will help bury it. The masks are off and the RINOS have been exposed as crypto Drmocrats.


18 posted on 08/20/2017 5:43:24 AM PDT by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hate to do this....but, “Read My Lips”....The great state of Florida will go full bore “RED” in the upcoming Mid-Term elections. The massive “proven” illegal and fraud voting in Broward County will be greatly diminished, Debbi Wasserman Shultz will resign or be defeated in a Democrat primary election, Democrat, Senator, Bill Nelson will either not run for re-election or be slaughtered in the general election and replaced by a true blue, Conservative Republican. End of story!!!


19 posted on 08/20/2017 6:03:25 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yebbie...take your mexican wife and move to the country of your love...mehico. No one cares what you (or your globalist loser family) think about anything.


20 posted on 08/20/2017 6:24:14 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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