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Democrats burned by polling blind spot
The Politico ^ | March 27, 2017 | Steven Shepard

Posted on 03/27/2017 11:11:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: SnuffaBolshevik
I doubt calling such folks idiots (in so many words) is going to cause many of them to vote for a party that holds them in such low regard.

... and that's on top of the party elite considering you to be a racist if you happen to be white. Yeah, being labeled and "ignorant racist" makes me want to vote for your candidate. No surprise that pollsters get ignored.

21 posted on 03/28/2017 3:15:34 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: ransomnote

A friend recently took a pollster call regarding the GA 6th District race, the special election for the seat opened up by Tom Price joining the Trump Administration as HHS Secretary.

He told the pollsters who his first choice was (Handel IIRC), and when asked who his second choice was, told them Jon Ossoff. Well Ossoff is the Dem candidate in this open, no party primary, massive field special election, and in reality, there are more than a dozen candidates in the race this guy would vote for, before he would vote for Ossoff. In fact, he would write in a name before voting Ossoff.

Do NOT underestimate the effect of large numbers of people messing with pollsters.


22 posted on 03/28/2017 3:27:11 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: radmanptn; jazzlite

See my previous for some anecdotal insight to part of what has been going on with polling.


23 posted on 03/28/2017 3:32:31 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Progs will never get it. You lost the election for one reason. You ran a sack of crap, lying, corrupt, criminal, Hillary Clinton.


24 posted on 03/28/2017 3:40:05 AM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: jazzlite
Here's a guy who trusts Deplorables -- college brainwashed or not.


25 posted on 03/28/2017 3:43:40 AM PDT by poconopundit
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Founders' vision, a common man, entered American politics for the first time SINCE our founding, and the losers who tried to uber Goebbels a free and intelligent nation were exposed and the man behind the curtain shown to be wearing no clothes.

And now, all that political inbreeding has exposed them as the irrational humans that they are.

Either that, or Democrats have been photo-shopped in and it has all been a joke.

26 posted on 03/28/2017 3:46:28 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Democrats’ polling problems might not only be voters hiding their intentions from pollsters — some voters may have been hiding altogether.

I always lie to pollsters.

When they are automated, I am a 43 year old, hispanic, demonRAT, lesbian, that hates Trump and loves hildabitch and hiawatha.

The other side of the failed polling results by sampling by state population, i.e. kalifornicator and ny will always skew the results toward the demonRATS, but pollsters don't adjust them because that is the result that they want to see.

These dumb bastards fool themselves...on purpose.

27 posted on 03/28/2017 3:49:42 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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>> The party didn’t just lose among rural white voters on Election Day

The Democrat Thug Party got hammered. And whatever ‘winning’ support it garnered came from the illegal urban vote.

The vast majority of counties in New York went for Trump.


28 posted on 03/28/2017 3:50:47 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
rural white voters, particularly those without college degrees

You know--Those people that DemocRATS despise.

29 posted on 03/28/2017 3:51:49 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you look at it from a “makers and takers” perspective, the Democrats offer nothing to the makers, or those who want to be makers. Statistically, there are more takers than makers, so Dems still have a chance, provided they can get the takers to the polls.


30 posted on 03/28/2017 3:57:32 AM PDT by IamConservative (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Emotionally mature people never answer phone calls from strangers, especially pollsters. Liberal moonbats, on the other hand, will trip over each other to take a phone call from anyone. There’s your blind spot.


31 posted on 03/28/2017 4:00:49 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: radmanptn

I believe you’re right; when Hillary is pandering for black votes in the Deep Ghetto (Philly) the day before the election, while Trump was heading out to Dem states, it was clear both knew what was happening. The media’s attempt to create an air of invincibility about Hillary failed miserably. In the end, for every whiny feminazi weeping in NYC on election night, there was a woman elsewhere cheering Trump’s win.

At some point Dems might figure out it isn’t worth criminalizing “whiteness”...


32 posted on 03/28/2017 4:02:08 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Trump20162020
The only thing wrong with pollsters is that they believe white america is history and not relevant. Polling the past is not their perview.

Progressives know and believe that if they want something hard enough, it will come true - like from a materializer on star trek. Thus there is no need for polling those they deem unfit for the future.

Poor democrats. It is scary not knowing why you got beat at the polls when there is no reason why it should have happened. Almost like the republican right has a cloak of invisibility that needs to be rendered useless.

33 posted on 03/28/2017 4:07:42 AM PDT by x_plus_one (NEVER leave a threat you could have destroyed alive on the field of battle.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The folks who would talk to a stranger about politics just aren’t representative of people who wouldn’t”

When people are labeled “ignorant racists” whenever they deviate from the Democrat Party Line, they tend not to answer political questions from strangers. This article makes the ignorant, racist assumption that these people are all ignorant racists, i.e., in Leftspeak, “rural white people without college degrees”.


34 posted on 03/28/2017 4:13:45 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (rightwingcrazy)
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To: radmanptn
"The democrats still don’t get it. The pre-election polling was fake. They were designed to create the impression that Clinton was going to win"

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

35 posted on 03/28/2017 4:15:30 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: radmanptn

The democrats still don’t get it. The pre-election polling was fake. They were designed to create the impression that Clinton was going to win, in the hope that creating that impression would create that reality.
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Spot on and my take as well. I don’t buy the premise of the article at all.

Phony, wishful thinking, Dem-oversampled polling that was obvious to the average Freeper is what really went on. And that’s not something the Pollsters are willing to confess to since they plan to use that same technique in 2018. And 2020 and 2022 and ...


36 posted on 03/28/2017 4:23:29 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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To: Trump20162020

I do not answer calls on my phone from numbers I do not recognize - especially from area codes like DC, NY, Chicago and LA. If it’s important enough to them they’ll leave a message and a call back number. If it’s important enough to me, I’ll call back.


37 posted on 03/28/2017 4:27:39 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Charlie, here comes the deuce, and when you speak of me speak well.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This started way back: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2067223/President-Obamas-2012-campaign-abandons-white-working-class-voters-favor-minorities-educated.html


38 posted on 03/28/2017 4:41:18 AM PDT by tje
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To: exDemMom; 2ndDivisionVet; Wiz-Nerd

Yesterday was first voting day to fill the GA seat vacated by Tom Price.

Local Democrats could not find a qualified candidate. So Nancy Pelosi’s faction chose Congressional staffer Ossoff who didn’t live in the district. Pelosi is spending big, both on Polling, TV, and ground game.

Ossoff is polling 40%-44%, impressive in a field of 18.

Dan Moody, candidate of the governor and establishment Republicans is spending the most of any Republican, is on TV almost as much as Ossoff, and has only 2%-5% in 5th or 6th place behind other Republicans who are spending little.

Trump carried this 6th District in a squeaker. But Tom Price carried it with 60%.

How accurate are the polls? Each media source reports a different number for each candidate from exactly the same March 22-23 Fox poll. So not only are the polls in question. But the media reporting on those polls is in question.

There was no serious attempt to convince some Republicans to drop out. Thus the vote of many Republican factions is split.

https://ballotpedia.org/Georgia%27s_6th_Congressional_District_special_election,_2017

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia%27s_6th_congressional_district_special_election,_2017


39 posted on 03/28/2017 4:46:49 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a slur that many salesmen have used for decades. When the person say something like “my dad always drove a Chevrolet” the salesman comes back with something like, “let me guess that he probably had a high school diploma or less. A GED? We see that Chevrolet is very popular among those without higher education.”

Mattresses, cars, life insurance all have been sold by implying that the competitor’s adherents are ignorant, uneducated people.

Ignore it. Its just a tactic.


40 posted on 03/28/2017 4:53:23 AM PDT by anton
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