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Democrats burned by polling blind spot
The Politico ^ | March 27, 2017 | Steven Shepard

Posted on 03/27/2017 11:11:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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Did you catch the part about the Democrats controlling the pollsters?
1 posted on 03/27/2017 11:11:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obviously something went very, very wrong with the polls in the OH/PA/MI region. We kept getting told Ohio was close, yet Trump won by almost double digits.


2 posted on 03/27/2017 11:16:01 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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““The folks who would talk to a stranger about politics just aren’t representative of people who wouldn’t,” he said.”

Actually, republicans are less likely to talk to a stranger about politics because of the abusive incivility that Dems are so proud to display when others don’t agree with them. Dems are proud of their abusive incivility - they feel they’ve won the culture war by screaming “bigot” when they encounter the market place of ideas. And here they are in this OP, still as clueless as ever. Suits me fine - let them wander in the wilderness...


3 posted on 03/27/2017 11:18:45 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Trump20162020

Deplorable polling. :-)


4 posted on 03/27/2017 11:20:39 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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"I think it’s very plausible that for years pollsters have been over-representing educated voters...."

They still don't get it.

It appears that they are saying that if a person doesn't have a 4 year degree they are "uneducated". Not "less educated" or "having only graduated from high school". Uneducated.

I doubt calling such folks idiots (in so many words) is going to cause many of them to vote for a party that holds them in such low regard.

5 posted on 03/27/2017 11:58:47 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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Almost all the people I know who voted for Trump have colleges degrees. I know one Trumpster with hs only.


6 posted on 03/28/2017 12:27:11 AM PDT by MHT (,`)
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I believe that they are unable to understand that many of those who have NO college degree have more REAL education than many of those who DO. Secondly, a college degree is worth far less in the job market than a high school diploma was worth in the sixties.

It is all about credentials now, a college degree is just an easy way to reduce the number of candidates to be considered, in many cases it has little or nothing to do with actual qualifications for the job. College graduates are accepting jobs of a level which would have been filled by high school DROPOUTS in the fifties and sixties because MOST recent college graduates could not pass a high school final exam from that era if their lives depended on passing it. Education has been replaced by indoctrination, we are reduced to importing engineers and physicians from India while young Americans try to pay off huge student loans by working at jobs which my generation would have scorned as eighteen year old high school graduates.


7 posted on 03/28/2017 12:27:33 AM PDT by RipSawyer (R)
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“I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.”

Mark Twain


8 posted on 03/28/2017 12:44:42 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They ignore, marginalize and stigmatize the “white rural” population, and then wonder why these good folks don’t play ball? LOL!


9 posted on 03/28/2017 1:12:11 AM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People who are left unprotected by the government have to protect themselves.


10 posted on 03/28/2017 1:41:10 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

I don’t no how many highly educated idiots that there are out there. I notice the more one talks about how intelligent they are and how educated they are the bigger there is a lack of understanding about having areas they are not will informed in... IE biologist thinking he is qualified to talk about climate. an English major thinks she is brilliant at public policy. everyone has areas that they are not as will informed as others but democrats want to fool them selves that theses idiots don’t matter for them personally that they have a deficit and the strength of there education will make it so they make the correct decision... some times the person who makes the wise decision understands that there info is incomplete but they have to come to a conclusion’


11 posted on 03/28/2017 1:41:18 AM PDT by PCPOET7 (in)
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I have a master’s degree. They are all wet.


12 posted on 03/28/2017 1:45:11 AM PDT by Luke21
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...One top Democratic strategist who requested anonymity to discuss candidly what went wrong with the 2016 polls pointed to difficulty in reaching voters in more rural districts because of spotty cellphone service. The same strategist added that many of these voters also may choose not to participate in polls “because they don’t like the establishment and they don’t want to take a survey.”

...Or because they don't want to help you 'liberal' arseholes defeat their candidate by alerting you to your weaknesses.

13 posted on 03/28/2017 2:04:26 AM PDT by piasa
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YES! Would you open up to a pollster? In the vicious environment of today, I wouldn’t. Who knows what they would do with that information. Perhaps a judge would use it to put you in a gulag? These are dangerous times, and anyone who does not realize that the anarchists are determined to take over this nation has their head in the sand and polling, they hope, will help to shut up those in opposition to their plans. I pay no attention to their polls. Fake news, fake polls.


14 posted on 03/28/2017 2:34:24 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think their problem is rather obvious.


15 posted on 03/28/2017 2:37:15 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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...”Almost all the people I know who voted for Trump have college degrees. I know one Trumpster with hs only.”...

I live in a very educated community and, for the first time in history my county went Republican in the last election. Now, that shocked even me. Yard signs for Trump were hardly seen because people knew the voting habits of our county and did not want to place tension between them and their neighbors. I believe the surprise here on election day is still out there and, perhaps, may be gaining steam. The fake polls we get will not show that because, today, people will be more reluctant than ever to tell anyone how they feel, or who they will fight for.


16 posted on 03/28/2017 2:40:37 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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Politico articles are pollution to our fine forum.


17 posted on 03/28/2017 2:46:32 AM PDT by Bullish (May as well just rename Hollywood---> Hypocrite city)
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the democraps “blindspot” is everywhere between the Tappen-Zee bridge and the PCH..


18 posted on 03/28/2017 2:46:38 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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The same strategist added that many of these voters also may choose not to participate in polls “because they don’t like the establishment and they don’t want to take a survey.”

That is excellent news, and I hope the trend keeps growing. Polls have long been used to influence elections. The sooner people stop having strong belief in the infallibility of polls, the better. This is also a good weapon against vote fraud--if the polls are inaccurate, the Democrats will not know how many votes to manufacture to guarantee a win.

Democrats aren’t ready to prescribe remedies yet, but officials at the national party committees are sending strong signals that they plan to hold pollsters to a higher standard in the upcoming midterm elections.

I would humbly suggest that the Democrats start caring about the country and doing those things that best preserve freedom. And stop devising policies meant to trap people in unending poverty. I know that the Dems have conditioned poor people to vote for them and will happily keep them entrapped in slums forever--but dang, that is so inhumane.

Rep. Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico, who is chairing the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee for the second consecutive election cycle, ruffled feathers last month when he suggested that “unreliable pollsters will not be invited back to the DCCC.”

This, in a nutshell, encapsulates the arrogant attitude of this article, and, indeed, of liberal (i.e. mainstream) media. The Democrats do *not* have a right to our votes. If we do not choose to vote Democrat, it is *not* an aberration against the natural order of things. But to listen to the liberal media, one would think that the only way to vote is Democrat, and that no real person would ever vote otherwise. Hence, in liberal land, those not voting Democrat are outsiders not worthy of being considered human.

19 posted on 03/28/2017 3:03:23 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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The democrats still don’t get it. The pre-election polling was fake. They were designed to create the impression that Clinton was going to win, in the hope that creating that impression would create that reality. I think the liberal establishment believed their own fake polls and let their election fraud slip a little bit. Hopefully the democrats will continue to delude themselves until the next presidential election. Then when they reach out to all of us uneducated Trump voting hicks in fly over country we can tell them how disappointed we are with Trump and that we plan on voting for the democrat candidate, it will be fun to watch what that does to their polling.


20 posted on 03/28/2017 3:09:26 AM PDT by radmanptn
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