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1 posted on 03/12/2017 1:53:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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If this makes it to Trump’s desk, I’m afraid he’ll sign it.


2 posted on 03/12/2017 3:18:59 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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Cruz is doing the right thing.

Rand Paul and Mike Lee are following the Lindsey Graham playbook on media whoring. They just want facetime on CNN.

I’m still waiting for Paul and Lee to refute the Paul Ryan powerpoint presentation. I don’t like Ryan but it seemed rock solid.


3 posted on 03/12/2017 3:24:09 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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Trump posted this on Twitter yesterday....... Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump 20 hours ago We are making great progress with healthcare. ObamaCare is imploding and will only get worse. Republicans coming together to get job done!
4 posted on 03/12/2017 3:28:08 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon)
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The issue seems to be the difference between states that chose to expand medicaid and those that did not. Had we not had that carrot held out by Obama, it would have been an easy repeal, but there are a few millions, who have been given something, and the Congress recognizes what could happen if it is yanked away. All this despite the fact that the issue was purely democrat in the beginning, and now we face the music while the democrats wait to pounce on the issue as soon as the dotted line is signed.

Compromise at your peril.


5 posted on 03/12/2017 3:32:07 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and. the pursuit of Happiness.)
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I still don’t find “provide for medical care” in any reading of the “general welfare” clause.... Unconstitutional laws are void, whether passed by left or left-light congresses.

“welfare” is a state of being, not a government program.


7 posted on 03/12/2017 3:47:13 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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I am all for doing it in steps, with the first being reconciliation. Unlike times in the past I also trust that this will NOT be the end of the process in the elimination of Obama-don’t-care, aka the UNaffordable healthcare act.


8 posted on 03/12/2017 4:14:31 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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President Trump lives for deal making. This new Trumpcare deals should not be made.

Senator Cruz is fighting to repeal it like he campaigned for.

He will fight the establishment and the WH if need be get the Obamacare nightmare repealed and hopefully something that has the FERAL Government out of the healthcare business.

10 posted on 03/12/2017 5:16:00 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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Cruz is showing back up on my like list - I think he has Trump's ear and will be an asset in the fight. Ironic that the Repubs passed some decent repeal bills when they knew they were DOA at the Oval Office, but when given all the tools needed to actually do it, they go all RINO on us.

Mixed feelings with what big long-term plans may be with Trump's "lip service praise" of those "working so hard" and Pence's appearance in KY yesterday.

Will have to see how it all pans out.

12 posted on 03/12/2017 5:29:18 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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It’s very Christian for Trump to be helping out Cruz, seeing how Cruz’s disapproval rating in Texas is now higher than his approval rating. We can all hope Cruz straightens up.

https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/23/gov-abbott-receives-top-job-approval-ratings-in-texas


13 posted on 03/12/2017 5:48:24 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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Repeal the G D Thing. Let the free market take care of it.


16 posted on 03/12/2017 6:07:28 AM PDT by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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The bill contains provisions to bail out the insurance companies if they lose money. You don’t think someone bribed our elected officials do you?


17 posted on 03/12/2017 6:16:47 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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I think this is why Trump has been constantly sunny about the bill. His dinners with Cruz, and his discussions with Paul make me think he believes it will be easier to have the Senate change the bill than the House.


18 posted on 03/12/2017 6:47:49 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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I have no problem with negotiating.


19 posted on 03/12/2017 6:50:20 AM PDT by dforest
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Yes, give back the $7+ Billion ACA stole from Medicare. And all those IOU’s congress left after they stole the money they never intended to replace.

And for those of us who are stuck with Medicare and Tricare Life, let us get additional coverage for what those 2 crap RATIONED plans don’t cover or expand it to cover them with co-pays. Hearing aids, dental, vision. And let us upgrade scheduled medical procedures like cataract implants to better lenses from our pockets for that part. Just pay the basic surgery and crap lens cost, let us pay for the upgrade. And if the doc screws it up, we get Lasix to fix it as a covered medical expense not as a ‘cosmetic’. Because it is not ‘cosmetic’ then, but medical need, you can’t remove bad/wrong cataract implants. I’ve just gone through this crap of paying for Lasix for a wrong cataract implant fix, that is $5K plus the $600+ for multi focal glasses I’ll still need, when they decide I’m ready. No coverage for it.

Kick all non US Citizens off Medicaid. And illegals out of the USA.


23 posted on 03/12/2017 8:01:27 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up Buttercups it's President Donald Trump! DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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There is a gigantic amount of hard work going on here as part of the process. The various parts that come to mind:

The bills passed by the house and senate by simple majority must first go through the critical committees, and conform to the requirements to go to a conference committee. Then they have to be “whipped” to insure the simple majorities to pass them once they go back to the house and the senate, based on changes made in the conference committee.

Then off for President Trump’s signature.

But *then*, and probably what senator Cruz is working on right now, something that has to start at the beginning of the process and go all the way through, is to make sure that it will pass muster with the SCOTUS. This is not easy, but Cruz knows the law well enough to hopefully make it bulletproof.

But it doesn’t even end there. It will likely require that the 12 annual house appropriations bills scrub every part of Obamacare that was inserted into them. This means a huge effort in a bunch of different committees in the house.

Once the house appropriations bills are sent to the senate, they will also have to get through the morass of their committees, then again to conference committee.

The Obamacare “punching a hole in the Titanic” was the easy part. Fixing the hole before the ship sinks is what the Republicans are trying to do.


24 posted on 03/12/2017 9:00:36 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Leftists aren't fascists. They are "democratic fascists", a completely different thing.)
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