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Hope Is What Separates Trump Voters From Clinton Voters
The Atlantic ^ | 8-19-2016 | Andrew McGill

Posted on 08/20/2016 8:15:55 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

It’s pretty clear who Donald Trump wants to help, because he names them at every rally. Miners. Steelworkers. Guys on the assembly line, whose jobs are either being stolen by the Chinese or strangled to death by Obama’s regulations. If globalization has put your livelihood in jeopardy, Trump wants you on his side. And given his sky-high popularity among white men without a college degree, I’d argue this pitch is gaining traction.

But here’s the weird thing: Folks in hard-hit industrial towns aren’t voting for Trump. When Michigan Republicans went to the polls in March, economists expected to see huge Trump turnout in areas with the most shuttered factories. Instead, they got the opposite: Trump’s support was strongest in towns that had gained manufacturing jobs. He did about 20 percentage points worse in areas where layoffs were most intense. It was completely the opposite of what everyone expected.

Earlier this month, Gallup economist Jonathan Rothwell published a working paper ..... he used opinion poll results instead of vote totals, making the data more current. Rothwell found the same trend: Trump did worse in towns that lost manufacturing jobs between 2000 and 2007, and better in areas that gained them. Indeed, Trump is most popular in prosperous areas. Apparently, economic pain doesn’t guarantee votes for the Republican nominee, and economic success is no guard against him.

I’d argue the real dividing line is optimism. Consider this: Two-thirds of Hillary Clinton’s supporters think the next generation will be in better shape than we are today, or least the same, according to Pew Research. The reverse is true for Trump’s camp. Sixty-eight percent of his supporters think the next generation will be worse off. ....

What we’re seeing is a hope gap. ..... Could hope be the missing link between education and Trump?

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


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Too many links in the article, go to the source to read them.

The author then goes on the vein of why 'poorly educated' Trump supporters have such dim views, etc etc.

1 posted on 08/20/2016 8:15:55 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

The author mistakes ‘hope’ for ‘faith’ and belief in one’s traditional country and values. “Hope” is the bullsh!t we got from Obama and what Hillary wants to continue.


2 posted on 08/20/2016 8:18:15 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Sir Napsalot

Brains and balls


3 posted on 08/20/2016 8:19:55 AM PDT by Mjreagan
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To: Sir Napsalot

What separates the Trump supporters from Clinton supporters is a brain.


4 posted on 08/20/2016 8:20:52 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

March? That’s no indicator regarding Trump as it was the primary. Many of us did not vote for Trump then, think most leaned Cruz and are now Trump backers. Not so poorly educated either.

Author did not think statements through.


5 posted on 08/20/2016 8:21:25 AM PDT by madison10 (#OnlyTrump #NeverHillary)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I’d argue the real dividing line is optimism.
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I would argue the real dividing line is realism.
Trump voters know that the Ministry of Propaganda is an organ of the DNC spreading disinformation about virtually everything.
From Gore-Bull Warming to “common-sense gun control”.
The opposite of what they print is more often than not waht is true.


6 posted on 08/20/2016 8:23:10 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: Sir Napsalot

There’s another theory (from me).

All those so-called “Smart People” convinced themselves of only one-sided (and fake) rosy pictures this admin put out. Since they are oh, so smart, all of them, there couldn’t have been any bad indicators to point out their lies, could there? They are too smart and too sophisticated (because they are on top of their professions) to be bamboozled.

What a way to sell their most vile candidate in the person of Hillary, HOPE! After 8 years of Obama’s Hope, let’s hope some more.


7 posted on 08/20/2016 8:24:02 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The thing that separates Trump and Clinton voters is morals. If you can vote for this modern day Jezebel because you think it will get you another handout from someone else’s pocket, Hillary is your choice.


8 posted on 08/20/2016 8:25:10 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Sir Napsalot

Obviously those with jobs are afraid of losing them. Areas without manufacturing have lost the workers as well. So, the fact that a town had manufacturing 20 years ago does not mean it has workers now.

Also, Trump tends to be white working Americans. Inner-city with blacks and Hispanics tend to vote Hillary. The idea is that if they keep voting for democrats something will get better. They are by definition, insane.


9 posted on 08/20/2016 8:27:05 AM PDT by poinq
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The mediots laughed at Reagan too when he was down 15 pts at this point. They laughed at him for the next 8 years.

Pray America wakes


10 posted on 08/20/2016 8:28:45 AM PDT by bray (#NeverLevin)
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To: Sir Napsalot
But here’s the weird thing: Folks in hard-hit industrial towns aren’t voting for Trump.

People have become conditioned to thinking that when the jobs go away, they don't come back and they need to rely on government assistance. They probably think that if Trump is elected, then the government goodies will end.

11 posted on 08/20/2016 8:31:18 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

So, to sum it up:
Trump doesn’t poll as well with people who are in denial of reality.


12 posted on 08/20/2016 8:36:12 AM PDT by JoeRed
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thats exactly what they think... they arent voting FOR hellery... they are voting for $$$$


13 posted on 08/20/2016 8:41:44 AM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Hope and Change?


14 posted on 08/20/2016 8:48:05 AM PDT by Vic S ( David Rockefeller killed Larry McDonald (KAL 007))
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To: Sir Napsalot

When you’re connected to a Government check every month you tend to have more hope than those who have to pay for that check every month.

I.E. Her voters are disconnected from reality.


15 posted on 08/20/2016 8:49:17 AM PDT by crusher2013
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To: poinq

The other thing about rust belt voting is the concept of moving. If mixed areas lose their economic support, populations start declining, and they go Democratic, what does that say. It says that conservatives cut bait and look for better places to live. They leave Michigan and move to Texas, and the like.


16 posted on 08/20/2016 8:55:38 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Sir Napsalot
I don't do the "hope" BS very well. I've always lived my life by following something I learned when I was just a kid.

"Don't wait for your ship to come in, swim out to it!"

17 posted on 08/20/2016 8:56:22 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Let's Make Our Government and Founding Documents Great Again!)
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So they're back to the meme that only stupid people vote for Trump?

Didn't they try this very same meme this election cycle...several times?

18 posted on 08/20/2016 8:58:29 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Sir Napsalot
I’d argue the real dividing line is optimism. Consider this: Two-thirds of Hillary Clinton’s supporters think the next generation will be in better shape than we are today, or least the same, according to Pew Research.

That is not optimism. That is the result of swallowing and internalizing leftist propaganda.

Leftist propaganda has always been along the lines of "you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet." In other words, no matter how miserable the present is, the present misery is a necessary prelude to a glorious future. This has been a basic feature of all socialist propaganda, and is a way to suppress people who are living in abject misery. The people who buy into this propaganda never seem to realize that the misery never ends, it only gets worse, and that promised glorious future never gets any closer than the horizon.

As I mentioned above, fervent belief in a glorious future is not optimism. It is a sign of an inability to extrapolate future trends based on current reality. If you realize that allowing people to keep more of their money leads to them investing more, and that such investments in small businesses and so forth are the key to a strong economy, then you support economic gurus like Trump. If you believe that the reason you live in misery is that "the rich" have not been taxed enough, and you have absolutely no understanding of how economies actually work--then you support class warfarists like Hillary.

19 posted on 08/20/2016 8:58:35 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"Don't wait for your ship to come in, swim out to it!"

And don't forget your grappling hook and rope, so you can climb up the hull once you get there! Otherwise, you're just going to be stuck treading water next to an imbreachable hull.

;)

20 posted on 08/20/2016 9:01:39 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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