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Kristol Nicht
The Z Man ^ | June 6, 2016

Posted on 06/07/2016 7:12:31 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In a hilariously absurd post, the #nevertrump fanatic David French declined to be the nominee of Bill Kristol’s new political party. French is prone to drama so this is pretty standard stuff from him. I take some pride in having spotted him as a loony-tune a long time ago. I could just tell he was, in the mold of Glenn Beck, one of those guys who careens from one cause to the next, always overdoing it in a quest for grace. In a better age, these sorts were turned into missionaries and shipped off to Africa.

That said, I’m a little surprised that Kristol’s scheme has been such a disaster. He is a smart guy and a very connected guy in the GOP. He has been a made-member of the Bush crime family for decades. His ideological inclinations may not be my cup of tea, but I respect his IQ. He had to know that going third party was suicide. He may be willing to commit suicide for his cause, but unless your name is Mohamed, it is not easy to get volunteers for your suicide mission. As a result, I assumed he was up to something else, like leveraging access to Team Trump.

Even smart guys screw up and smart guys who think they are smarter than everyone tend to make big mistakes. There is also the fact that Kristol is no spring chicken. He is 63, which is not ancient, but that’s when some men start to slip. I’m not saying he is ready for the home; it’s just that he is not going to be as politically nimble as he was twenty years ago. There’s also the fact that he has been in the bubble for a long time and his connections to the currents of American life are now entirely indirect.

He and many other neo-cons seem to be trapped in 1995, unable to appreciate that the world has changed, the culture has changed and, most important, neo-conservatism is not so “neo” anymore. Their ideas all seem dated and out of sync with 2016 America. Listen to Kristol or his half-orc sidekick John Podhoretz talk about America and it’s as if they just awoke from a twenty year nap. They keep repeating the same slogans from two decades ago as if the last two decades never happened. It’s cringe inducing.

That’s probably the biggest error Kristol made in his attempt to unhorse Trump. The Bill Kristol brand of conservatism was a horrible flop that nearly killed the Republicans Party and turned the word “conservative” into an epithet. In 2000, conservatives had full control of government for the first time in a century. Instead of rolling back the welfare state, they expanded it and launched into a massive war with Islam that we still can’t figure out how to end. We have been dropping bombs on Muslims for a quarter century now and things are worse.

People can be forgiven for thinking that maybe these neo-cons were never all that conservative. You can only scold people for so long about your principles before they expect to see you act on those principles. It seems like the only principles the neo-cons hold dear are the ones that allow them to take a powder when it is time to take on the Left. The last time conservative won back any ground against the Left was in the mid-90’s. Since then it has been a long bloody retreat.

There’s also the issue of tactics. Kristol’s claim to fame was the purging of Pat Buchanan and the remaining paleo-cons from the party. His trick in the 90’s was to bait them into saying bad things about Israel or the Israel lobby in Washington. Many fell for it and were tarred as anti-Semites. That made throwing them out of the party an easy task. There’s nothing that strikes fear in the heart of the Republican like being called an anti-Semite. They would rather be associated with pedophiles like Denny Hastert than tied to someone who is an anti-Semite.

Trump is too smart for that and he is very pro-Israel in the typical American spirit. Most Americans support Israel because they are Christian and they see the Israelis as the underdog, facing a billion lunatics who want to murder them. That’s Trump. He does not have deep thoughts on the subject, but he instinctively backs Israel. Having spent his whole life working with Jews in New York real estate, he is very comfortable around Jews.

Finally, I think Kristol, like many neo-cons, has forgotten the whole point of their movement. It was always intended to be a sales pitch. It was an effort to stitch together the various strains of American conservatism into a political force that could win elections. To their credit, it worked quite well, but it failed to deliver anything more than hollow election victories. In the end, a viable political movement has to deliver and 85% of GOP voters tell pollsters that their party has not delivered.

It’s the old saying from the drug game. Don’t get high from your own supply. That’s what happened with the neo-cons. They started believing their own sales pitch and soon forgot that it was just a sales pitch. They stopped thinking about the practical reality of politics which is that the coalition that wins expects to get something for it. The neo-cons got swank offices and additional quarters added to their public pension, but the spear catchers and water carriers of the party got nothing. Pleas to ideological purity are not going to work on people who feel burned.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: billkristol; islam; israel; trump

1 posted on 06/07/2016 7:12:31 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Possible Independent Candidate David French Says He Won’t Run for President

Jun. 5, 2016 10:53pm Dave Urbanski
After several days of speculation, possible independent candidate David French has confirmed he won’t make a run for the presidency.

Writing in the National Review on Sunday night, French revealed: “After days of prayer, reflection, and serious study of the possibilities, I am not going to run as an independent candidate for president of the United States.”
After much thought and prayer: I’m Not Running for President https://t.co/lqWQtPL5Q5

— David French (@DavidAFrench) June 6, 2016

www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/05/possible-independent-candidate-david-french-says-he-wont-run-for-president/


2 posted on 06/07/2016 7:14:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Bill Kristallnacht wants to burn down the conservative movement & elect crooked/lying Clinton!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

opening paragraph is hilarious


3 posted on 06/07/2016 7:18:45 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Grampa Dave

Glad to know David French took time to reflect and contemplate before making his “momentous” decision to decline a run for the presidency. Kristol is a laughingstock. He probably asked every RINO he knew to run for president but all they declined, so he scraped the bottom of the RINO barrel and came up with David French. This is why the GOP is floundering. The RINOS running it can’t do anything on the fly and this ludicrous attempt by Kristol to find an independent candidate proves that fact.


4 posted on 06/07/2016 7:27:56 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Entire piece is spot on!!!

The only thing if I may add is the neo-cons are the latest iteration of the gop-e party going back probably 80 years not just twenty years.


5 posted on 06/07/2016 7:34:24 AM PDT by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: dowcaet
He is a smart guy and a very connected guy in the GOP. He has been a made-member of the Bush crime family for decades. His ideological inclinations may not be my cup of tea, but I respect his IQ.

Smart? IQ?

To turn a phrase: Smart is as smart does

On that basis Kristol is a dunce.

6 posted on 06/07/2016 7:34:41 AM PDT by Eddie01
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kristol and company are Trotskyites, the permanent chaos of the American Empire and its over reach is their payday.


7 posted on 06/07/2016 7:36:20 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Grampa Dave

David French was on Morning Joe this morning denouncing “Trump’s racist army”.


8 posted on 06/07/2016 7:36:24 AM PDT by Pelham (Barack Obama. When being bad is not enough and only evil will do)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This pun is NOT good - it plays into the anti-Semitic claims. I realize that’s not you saying it, 2DV.


9 posted on 06/07/2016 7:39:34 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He and many other neo-cons seem to be trapped in 1995, unable to appreciate that the world has changed, the culture has changed and, most important, neo-conservatism is not so “neo” anymore.

I have been thinking this while listening to the back-and-forth between Newt and Trump. We owe a tremendous debt to Newt for forging the House majority in the '94 elections, along with the balanced budgets and welfare reform that came with it. But Newt is the last generation, the voice for the interregnum between the Cold War and the Jihadi War. He is perceptive enough to see which way the wind blows, and would make a helpful advisor for Trump who needs advisors to the "inside game," but his time as a key player has past.

10 posted on 06/07/2016 7:44:15 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
launched into a massive war with Islam that we still can’t figure out how to end. We have been dropping bombs on Muslims for a quarter century now and things are worse.

First, we didn't launch the war; they did. Second, it has been like LBJ with Gen. LeMay in Vietnam: if we would have let the generals win the war, it could well have been won by now, or at least the jihadis would be cowed into being afraid to act.

Unfortunately, the way Obama has gutted the officer corps in general and the flag officers in particular, we no longer have generals and admirals who could win the war, even if a future President were willing to let them.

11 posted on 06/07/2016 7:48:31 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Pelham

Trump should just ignore the ‘racist’ label anymore

Just wave his hand and tell his supporters “You guys know I’m not racist, so I am tired of arguing that point...”


12 posted on 06/07/2016 7:53:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good post.


13 posted on 06/07/2016 8:37:18 AM PDT by Defiant (After 8 years of Chump Change, it's time for Trump Change.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
David French didn't run because on the ballot he'd have to be listed by his full name:

David French Who?

14 posted on 06/07/2016 9:21:03 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I dissent from the notion--if not outright fantasy--that Bill Kristol is now, or ever has been, an American Conservative. If he actually has the high IQ the writer suggests, I do not believe that it is functional--not to the extent of overcoming his emotional conditioning. He seems clearly what I would call a "dysron": One with normal or even above average intelligence, who functions at the moronic level because of his fears & compulsions.

Neocon Phenomenon.

15 posted on 06/07/2016 9:30:13 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: ctpsb

I agree. Though perhaps the author overestimates Kristol’s IQ.


16 posted on 06/07/2016 9:31:35 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Neo-cons are Democrats who love war and illegal aliens)
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To: Pelham

David who?


17 posted on 06/07/2016 1:33:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Bill Kristallnacht wants to burn down the conservative movement & elect crooked/lying Clinton!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bkmk


18 posted on 06/07/2016 11:03:38 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“launched into a massive war with Islam that we still can’t figure out how to end. We have been dropping bombs on Muslims for a quarter century now and things are worse.” this sounds like liberal faggot communist Daily Kos tripe.

“Kristol’s claim to fame was the purging of Pat Buchanan and the remaining paleo-cons from the party. His trick in the 90’s was to bait them into saying bad things about Israel or the Israel lobby in Washington. Many fell for it and were tarred as anti-Semites. That made throwing them out of the party an easy task. There’s nothing that strikes fear in the heart of the Republican like being called an anti-Semite.”
Good that the paleo con-artists were purged. America, the hope of the Earth that free the world from fascism and communism, must lead, as Max Boot and others have pointed out. Boot’s article “The Case for American Empire” http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-case-for-american-empire/article/1626 says the truth.

People like the article’s author would fit in well on Daily Kos, DemocRats Underground, etc.


19 posted on 06/08/2016 2:18:57 AM PDT by ErikJohnsky
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To: dowcaet
Kristol is a laughingstock. He probably asked every RINO he knew to run for president but all they declined, so he scraped the bottom of the RINO barrel and came up with David French.

NR's own Eliana Johnson tells the back story here:

By late May, it was clear Romney would not jump in, and others — Mattis, Sasse, and former Oklahoma senator Tom Coburn — had also declined to run. Last Thursday, almost coincidentally, French, who was then in New York, boarded a train with the conservative donor John Kingston, a longtime friend, to have dinner with Kristol in Washington, D.C.
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20 posted on 06/08/2016 2:40:08 AM PDT by cynwoody
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