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Trump, Carson or Cruz?
The Morning Call ^ | October 30, 2015 | Bill White

Posted on 10/30/2015 3:29:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I have a weird proposition for you today. Consider this Halloween-related.

If you had to choose between Donald Trump, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz as the next president, which one would you pick and why?

If you're a very conservative Republican, this may not be such a daunting prospect. If you're a moderate of either party or someone on the farther left, you're more likely to be appalled.

But in the wake of a debate in which Cruz emerged as an increasingly popular candidate in the crowded GOP field, and in which Trump and Carson remain the front-runners, I think it's a reasonable question. None of the Above is not an option in this case.....

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: carson; cruz; elections; tedcruz; trump
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To: CatherineofAragon

Oh no, see, after Trump’s wishy-washy debate answer where he appeared to be all for the foreigners coming to school here provided they (1) came legally and (2) got jobs here so their talent would be used for our economical purposes and not the country they came from (this sure does sound like being pro-H1B Visa stuff), he came out with this the next day!:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/29/exclusive-donald-trump-rights-ship-on-immigration-demands-disney-rehire-workers-replaced-by-cheap-foreign-labor-calls-rubio-silicon-valleys-puppet/

So see, all is right in the world of a Trump supporter. When Trump says something contradictory, he just changes it. Nevermind the fact Trump didn’t bother to read his own policy paper regarding his comments on Zukerberg.

You know, I think it’s funny that people bitching about H1-B’s would pretend and say they are against affirmative action, but that’s exactly what they’re advocating here. They want the Federal Government to FORCE businesses to hire someone over someone else based on some physical characteristic.

I think businesses should have a right to hire whomever the hell they want. If people are upset at the fact that these companies are hiring cheap labor from overseas, then let’s start asking why? Could it have something to do with the burdensome regulations, Union thugs, Obamacare, and other expenses that drive the cost of hiring an American worker to unprofitable heights?

Here’s a thought. How about getting the economy under control by cutting taxes across the board, eliminating the bogus regs and burdensome policies like Obamacare that make it more profitable and viable for a company to hire an American worker rather than looking overseas? You do that, and nobody will give a damn about the number of H1-B’s coming in because there will be plenty of jobs for all in an a free market economy that thrives free from the hands of the Federal Government.

Things don’t happen in a bubble. I believe Cruz’s support of H1-B increases is in part attached to a larger vision where the economy is functioning at a healthy level due to the elimination of the burdensome factors listed above.


221 posted on 10/31/2015 7:42:51 AM PDT by parksstp ("Truth is NOT Rhetoric" - Sen. Ted Cruz (The obvious conservative choice for POTUS))
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To: KGeorge

Yes, I do mean John Roberts and Souder. Trump is is a celebrity and has used his status to fool good conservatives. Cruz is the real deal ... The best I’ve seen in decades.


222 posted on 10/31/2015 8:40:31 AM PDT by ladyellen
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To: highball; Norm Lenhart
"Cruz, because I'm rather fond of the US Constitution."

Well, somebody should be fond of it. I'm starting to think that you and I are a distinct minority, not only in the country as a whole but in our own party.

So it appears.

223 posted on 10/31/2015 8:41:56 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cruz.

Because I'm a conservative.

224 posted on 10/31/2015 8:53:14 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: jpsb
Tell me, do you always blame the messenger for $hit you don't like?

Look, if you don't like Cruz, that's OK. But find a better reason, won't you?

225 posted on 10/31/2015 9:02:34 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: . IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: servantboy777
"The supreme court has never ruled on the ambiguity of the “natural born citizen clause”, Article II, section 1, clause 5, particularly whether a person born of an American citizen in a foreign country is considered natural born."

Yes, the supreme court has ruled on this issue.

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

The Constitution, Vattel, and “Natural Born Citizen”: What Our Framers Knew

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

226 posted on 10/31/2015 10:26:42 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: higgmeister

Well, he’ll be in the same position that Obama was in. There will be some people who are opposed to Cruz’s candidacy and they will try to construct an argument that he is not eligible. They will talk about Vattel and sound like they’re from outer space. They will write books and make money off of persons who dislike Cruz for other reasons. No one else will think that the arguments make any sense and Cruz will lose zero votes because of the issue. In fact, like Obama, he may benefit from the issue because these crackpot arguments will marginalize his opponents in the eyes of voters who like what Cruz has to say.


227 posted on 10/31/2015 11:07:09 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: ladyellen

You didn’t read the links, did you, ladyellen. CRUZ was John Roberts’ champion. Roberts turned around- stabbing America in the back, & twisted 0bamacare so that it would be upheld AND gave us gay marriage, among other sops.

If you- or anyone, believes that Cruz is “the real deal”, then it can only be because you willfully close your eyes to the facts of what he does & has done.

Ronald Reagan was also a “celebrity”.


228 posted on 10/31/2015 11:07:48 AM PDT by KGeorge (Make America Great Again- Ahead of Schedule & Under Budget.)
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To: ladyellen
"Cruz. Because he IS a TRUE CONSERVATIVE! And I trust that he won’t appoint backstabbing pretend conservatives to the court. Do any of you Trump followers even briefly think about that? Carson is nice and very smart, but there is something that bothers me, his affinity for Al Sharpton. I mean, how long has he been Republican? That same question bothers me about Trump. He is just recently a Republican. It’s a long haul until it is decided."

I wouldn't trust Trump as far as I could throw him. He went on MSNBC in July of this year and said some of his stances are those of a Democrat. And I'm supposed to support him? LOL, never happening.

229 posted on 10/31/2015 12:11:46 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: ladyellen

You have to understand conservatism to pick the right Supreme Court justice. It requires sniffing them out. Only Cruz can be trusted to do that. Trump is a new “student” to many planks of conservatism and not very enthusiastic about the social issues which is where judges have had some of the worst results. Carson is simply not smart about how government and the courts work. Only Cruz can be absolutely trusted to pick true conservative judges.


230 posted on 10/31/2015 12:16:48 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: MichelleWSC3

Hillary Clinton can’t win a general election.

Recent polls have already shown all 3 of these candidates beating Hillary.

Next!


231 posted on 10/31/2015 12:18:54 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: KGeorge

Cruz has a far better chance of winning the general election than Trump. Trump’s likability and trustworthiness poll worse than all the other leading GOP candidates and as bad or worse than Hillary’s. He is also far more likely to make gaffes or offensive statements that the media can repeat over and over. There is already enough of that material from Trump out there for the Dems to splice into negative ads targeted to just about any demographic group they want (women, Hispanics, Christians, veterans, etc.). Cruz does not have endless videos of himself out there making potentially offensive comments.


232 posted on 10/31/2015 12:23:17 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: JediJones

Y’all are just itching for a fight. Haranguing people into silence isn’t a “win”.
Have a nice day. If you can.


233 posted on 10/31/2015 12:51:14 PM PDT by KGeorge (Make America Great Again- Ahead of Schedule & Under Budget.)
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To: JediJones

Where’s your proof?

Next!


234 posted on 10/31/2015 1:23:38 PM PDT by MichelleWSC3
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To: KGeorge

“Ronald Reagan was also a “celebrity”.”

Yes, and Reagan used that celebrity as a springboard to a long career in public service, from decades of political activism to serving two terms as governor of one of the largest states in the nation, before he ran for President.

For which conservative candidates has Trump stumped on the trail? Which conservative causes has he made his own, traveling the country to support? Reagan did all that and more, and if you’re going to invoke the Gipper to bolster Donald, then you’d better have examples.

Being a “celebrity” by itself is not the issue. Being *only* a celebrity is.


235 posted on 10/31/2015 9:20:16 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball

Trump’s “celebrity” is completely beside the fact. That is only good for name recognition to people *who actually watch tv & follow “celebrities”*.
It’s his business skills (efficiency, budgets, negotiation- his INTEGRITY) that are his strongest assets.

Why does Trump need to “stump” for any other candidate? He isn’t a Washington insider. His financial support isn’t enough? The things he’s written in his books & expressed in interviews *for close to 30 years* isn’’t enough?

You Cruz backers just throw out one thing after another & try to create confusion & contention whenever anyone addresses a “point” y’all try to make. You remind me of the Pharisees & the Sadducees trying to entrap Jesus. This looks more like the tactics of the devil to me than people trying to serve the Lord. This is dishonest.


236 posted on 10/31/2015 10:33:42 PM PDT by KGeorge (Make America Great Again- Ahead of Schedule & Under Budget.)
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To: KGeorge
His financial support isn't enough?

You mean the financial support he gave to Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid? That financial support? Or maybe the donations to California Attorney General Kamala Harris. Is that the financial support you're thinking of?

There's plenty of dishonesty going around, but it's not from the Cruz supporters. It's from your candidate. Don't fall for it.
237 posted on 11/01/2015 5:17:32 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump because he will win it.


238 posted on 11/01/2015 5:21:02 AM PST by dforest
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To: MichelleWSC3

He must think that hover at 6% is actually 60%. LOL


239 posted on 11/01/2015 5:30:38 AM PST by dforest
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To: cynwoody
Right. Like the sheeple care about birferism! Like they voted against Obama because his daddy was a furrin Kenyan communist, and President McCain went on to inaugurate Morning in America!

You apparently have not been paying attention. The liberals didn't care about birth certificates but we do. All they have to do is mention Cruz and call us hypocrites. The Democrats will use doubt and guilt according to the Alinsky playbook.

Of course I would vote for Ted Cruz if he is nominated but that will not matter. He would join the ranks of Dole, McCain and Romney.

240 posted on 11/01/2015 10:34:47 AM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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