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Ben Carson touts a flat tax plan that even the poor would pay
McClatchy DC ^ | May 10, 2015 | William Douglas

Posted on 05/10/2015 3:21:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson Sunday touted a flat tax plan that he says even the nation’s poor would pay if he’s elected.

Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," Carson said it’s "very condescending" to think that poor people can’t pay taxes at the same flat rate as wealthier Americans. Carson said he got the idea for his plan – he calls it a proportional tax – from tithing in the Bible.

Using a 10 percent rate as an example, Carson said "You make $10 billion a year, you pay $1 billion. You make $10 a year, you pay one dollar."

"Now, some people say it’s not fair because, you know, the poor people can’t afford to pay that dollar," Carson, a retired neurosurgeon told Fox News’ Chris Wallace. "That’s very condescending. You know, I grew up very poor. I experienced every economic level. And I can tell you poor people have pride, too. And they don’t want to be just taken care of."

Carson disagreed with calculations that Wallace quoted from the Tax Policy Center that indicated a flat tax would have to be in the 20 percent range in order for the federal government to raise as much revenue as it does now...

(Excerpt) Read more at mcclatchydc.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; carson; election2016; flattax; taxes
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To: Redbob

Hey now. I ain’t hominemphobic. (”your” in general or me in particular? :>}) Do we in fact know how excellent a brain surgeon he is? I appears he’s brilliant in his field. I know he rose above his background which is a brilliant thing to do and I wish more young people had the drive and determination that he had/has. Hell, I wish I did back in the day. Just not presidential material at this time.


41 posted on 05/10/2015 4:12:49 PM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Travis McGee
“No free riders. Everybody pays their share.”

Unfortunately the slogan will be "Ben Carson wants to raise your taxes" and for over half the population that would be true. How do you think that motto will go over?

42 posted on 05/10/2015 4:13:36 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Everybody needs to be a part time slave to the gov’ts.


43 posted on 05/10/2015 4:16:36 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: redfreedom
With a flat tax concept, YES THE POOR WOULD PAY. There is nothing wrong with this.

If the Democrat ran on a campaign that he/she was going to raise your monthly tax bill by $400 or $500 a month then would you vote for them?

44 posted on 05/10/2015 4:16:56 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Two thirds of taxes should be raised with a 7.5% flat tax and the other one third with a 5% national sales tax. The only deduction would be for charitable donations. The feds would then not be allowed to borrow unless we have a war. Which means they would have to live on a fixed income like I do.


45 posted on 05/10/2015 4:17:07 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Yeah, it’s like Romney’s 47% comment. There is no upside to making potential voters feel threatened. Reagan motivated with uplifting speeches.


46 posted on 05/10/2015 4:18:55 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Everyone should pay taxes.


47 posted on 05/10/2015 4:19:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

It takes a village paying taxes to get rid of takers.


48 posted on 05/10/2015 4:25:44 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: JennysCool

I like the Fair Tax, consumption tax, sales tax, whatever . It does seem like the most fair way to tax and would not require an IRS. I wish Cruz were promoting that as I think it would be a great solution. Then you could forget filing altogether, not even on a postcard.


49 posted on 05/10/2015 4:27:41 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: DoodleDawg
Advocating raising taxes on over half the population is not a way to win.

That doesn't make it a bad idea.

50 posted on 05/10/2015 4:31:23 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle
That doesn't make it a bad idea.

Yeah it does. You can't accomplish anything when you lose.

51 posted on 05/10/2015 4:38:28 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: trisham
No-one should pay federal taxes.

The federal government needs to be reduced until it can self-finance. Like what the Constitution originally envisaged.

/johnny

52 posted on 05/10/2015 4:42:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You’re even more hard-core than I am. I like that.


53 posted on 05/10/2015 4:53:29 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
I just want what was agreed to in writing. That's all I'm asking (fighting) for.

Not really hardcore. Really. ;)

/johnny

54 posted on 05/10/2015 4:56:46 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You’re a rare man, Johnny. :)

Seriously, how many people today would even contemplate the concept of no federal taxes? I’m guessing very few. A hundred? A handful?


55 posted on 05/10/2015 5:01:47 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I totally agree with him on this one. Flat tax is the only fair way to go-—no deductions, period. And gubment remains the tax collector, which is important. I do NOT want business collecting taxes “for” the gubment. That makes business the villain. I want people to know when they are paying a tax that it is the gubment it is going to, and therefore if it is raised (as people will assuredly try to do), everyone will know who to resist.


56 posted on 05/10/2015 5:04:04 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the perfect plan.

The left is always screeching about people paying their “fair share”. Nothing is more fair than one flat tax percentage for all. If you don’t make much, you don’t pay much. If you make lots, you pay lots.

Everyone should have to pay something. This is fair.


57 posted on 05/10/2015 5:11:56 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: DoodleDawg
Yeah it does. You can't accomplish anything when you lose.

People who don't pay any taxes aren't going to vote Republican anyway. If he lies to get elected, then he's no better than Obama or other Dems.

58 posted on 05/10/2015 5:21:28 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle
People who don't pay any taxes aren't going to vote Republican anyway.

About half the people don't pay income taxes because of deductions and tax credits. You're saying none of them vote Republican? Because I doubt they will if the Republicans run on a platform promising to raise their taxes. Would you?

59 posted on 05/10/2015 5:25:56 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
About half the people don't pay income taxes because of deductions and tax credits. You're saying none of them vote Republican? Because I doubt they will if the Republicans run on a platform promising to raise their taxes. Would you?

I've benefited from various deductions in the past too, but I still can see the effect on our society of a tax system which punishes the workers and encourages the parasites. I like the idea of somehow making the tax system better and I like that someone has enough backbone to raise the topic.

60 posted on 05/10/2015 5:34:32 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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