Posted on 05/01/2015 10:23:30 AM PDT by entropy12
We literally do not need H1-B visas. They are displacing American workers and that is bad for the economy (but good for businesses that use this to artificially depress wages.
I Like the cut of your Jib. So now everyone going to College should get a Engineering Degree.
In 10 years the market will be swamped, wages stagnated and many Engineering Graduates will be living in their parents basement. The best part, those 50 or older will get pink slipped for a younger cheaper entrant into the field.
Sweet.
There were Thousands if not millions of good paying jobs lost due to the overwhelming influx of low skilled laborers.
Fact is a lot of those American Workers that lost those jobs didn’t have the means nor the intelligence to earn a Engineering Degree.
That’s wrong. When American Citizens are put out of work and the wages stagnate due to a flooded labor pool ALL Americans suffer.
The Skilled Trade Worker legislation is a Joke. The whole justification of it in the first place is to fill voids American Workers can’t fill. When companies lay off hundreds or thousands and off shore the work to Pakeestan
there aren’t voids being filled. It is Greedy Corp. Execs. getting rich and padding the Campaign chests of Politicians like Harry Reid and Turtle McConnell.
America loses.
I'm all for it...across State lines.
The U.S. is its own free trade area. No one planned to include the rest of the planet in the deal.
Absolutely, 100%.
"Are you aware that an average American family saves $10,000 per year due to Chinese imports? Do you want to institute tariffs on Chinese imports? That will instantly reduce standard of living in USA by $10,000 for an average family."
In a perfect world I would absolutely wean America off of cheap slave-labor produced garbage from China, but we're so far down that river and so reliant on foreign-made garbage that it would take more than just slapping on tariffs to fix the problem without a negative impact during the adjustment. It is something that the country needs to move towards, but it will take time, a revamp of the tax code (and lower taxes) and policy changes on multiple fronts.
But in the job market, we are not yet hopelessly reliant on foreign labor, and we don't need to be. The only "benefit" of ruining the career prospects of millions of American citizens will be crony-capitalist pocketing an extra buck, which they can then donate to Jeb, Hillary, or whichever other anti-America candidate they choose.
Furthermore, I work in the computer science industry, and foreigners (predominantly Indians and Chinese) are almost always sub-par. They are frequently slap-dash, dishonest (as in swiping code from each other and the friggin' internet), and limited in their abilities to apply theories to practical problems and produce maintainable, readable code. I imagine that's just how CS is taught in India and China, but whatever the root cause, we don't need more of these people in the industry, just so high-level management can add more Clinton Foundation donations to the bottom line.
Careful, they’ll start asking for your personal information and start doxxing you.
And the Chamber of Commerce. Who love nothing more than see the wages cut in half for their Member’s Companies.
I could care less what organization they are in. If they are Americans, they don't need to be replaced by anyone from the Indian Subcontinent - and that's where virtually all of them come from.
There are 1.3 billion people in their country. Let them sell their services there and create a livable economy.
The economy exists to serve the populace, not the other way around. The U.S. is not just a temporary staffing agency that anyone can take a dump on. For 300 years people in my families have fought, died, struggled for this land.
Ain't no damn reason that a bunch of unrelated foreigners should feel entitled to waltz in and live off the cream our people created. SCREW THAT.
So union, non-union, don't give a damn. If the people going out the door are Americans, it's a crime.
Go ahead and define open market capitalism. Then look around and see if that is what the world has. You are, at best, using a mistaken world view to sell a policy that harms America to the benefit of foreigner’s and Corporations. Corporations that participate in this practice are either apathetic to the plight of American workers or aren’t American companies. Why should the American government, created for the sole purpose of protecting American rights, be helping these companies instead of American citizens?
A nation without borders is not a nation!
Folks coming here from elsewhere need to go through the same process my great, great grandfather, Ernst Bachert, did!!
Born on 20 December,1834 20 in the Hesse-Darmstadt,Germany, both his parents died when he was 13. Alone, he went to Freiburg to learn a marketable trade.
He spent the next 6 years apprenticing to learn paper making.
At age 20, he left for America, arriving at Ellis Island on October 23rd, 1854. After verification of proper documents, American sponsorship and employment, he was examined for communicable diseases BEFORE being cleared for entry!
He did not stow away on a cargo ship for Mexico so he could sneak across the border to begin availing himself of the foolishly proffered largesse of the U.S. Treasury.
BTW, he went on to introduce a new paper making techinque and founded a paper manufacturing business that supported himself, his wife and children and 3 more generations of family.
What part of illegal – as in illegal immigrant or alien – is hard to understand???
All that said, I do have one ancestor who came here who dodged the immigration hoops Ernst had to navigate. My fifth great grandfather was brought here by his parents, arriving in Virginia in 1743 at age 8. Oh yes, the surveyor’s name? George Washington!
QUESTION: What damage does the current disregard of our well-considered and once respected immigration laws by the political elites do to respect for THE RULE OF LAW IN GENERAL?
Are situations like Ferguson, Baltimore and elsewhere a manifestation of that breakdown??
And how would you feel if you were some poor schlub who, even though you have skills this country may need, jumped through all the hoops and waited for years to gain entry as you watch thousands of illegals stroll across the border to be welcomed with open arms, EBT and Social Security cards?
I gave you ONE example of where the jobs are.
There are dozens and dozens of fields which lack supply of skilled workers.
If the programmers a company hires are sub-par, that company is stupid. And they will soon go out of business, as they should. That is how open market capitalism works. It is 180 degrees opposite of protectionism.
Now we can agree on that point. We do not have a “FAIR” trade with most countries. Like Trump says, all our negotiators are political appointees, not seasoned business people, and they are incompetent and stupid.
Dead on.
Comment: do you ever hear them advocating larger American families to “fill the needs of the economy” in the future?
No. It’s always “we need more immigrunts”.
But in the past virtually all American growth in populace and capability was internal. The Great Wave simply replaced the natural growth that did not happen due to the generation murdered in the “Civil” war.
And in 1970, the Leftists and their fellow travelers screamed “overpopulation!” and told Americans to have only “replacement families”. The coup de grace of the American family was imposed 3 years later with Roe v. Wade.
And that’s all that’s really going on. It isn’t about “free trade”, “free movement of labor” or any of that other esoteric tripe; simply, replace the population with people that are more compliant and desperate.
THAT’S what’s really going on with all of this.
Cruz is talking about legal immigrants, who will follow the law. Of course we should enforce existing laws, which would require that every illegal must be deported. Sadly only Tancredo will do something like that.
Thank you all very much for your prescient posts. Now I am of to the golf course...Later...
The problem is there is no quality in software anymore. You have millions of apps and programs that come on the market and make some money and in 3-4 years they are replaced with another “latest and greatest”. So these companies are modeled to turn out the quickest and easiest piece of shiite they can to make some money quick and then the market share dries up and they change products or go south the owners move on and start fresh. The pure Agile methodology is a perfect example of how we are settling for quick and dirty instead of quality that lasts.
The H1B programmer fits that model. They work at one place for about 2 years turning out convoluted crap that “just” works then they move on with their sightseeing America tour.
Can we expect that kind of loyalty and integration from the majority of these people from India and China? No. They just want to come here, take an American's job, and live off the fat of the best country on earth that other people fought and died to make.
Cruz would be reasonably accused of hypocrisy if he didn’t favor legal immigration. His father is an example of the best we can do: a guy who came here to escape a bad situation getting worse and eventually assimilated completely.
So Ted would be laughed at if he said “I think the 1965 act went too far” - he would be crucified by the Left.
It’s a weakness of his candidacy. And I’m sure he actually does believe that way. But regardless, he could never say so if he didn’t. And he’s smart enough to understand all that.
I agree with senator Cruz. We need more skilled immigrants via H-1B visa route.
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Troll! DU plant!! Closet RINO!! I bet you beat your kids with a 2x4 board didn’t you?................JUST KIDDING e12; just preparing you for some of the venom that will probably be unleashed on you from the FR purists. Hang tough, my man.
H1-B’s are supposed to be for skills that nobody else has. Not for driving down wages of the Americans with the same skills.
Yes I do, but not when we are the only nation with an open market. Right now we are being fed upon by Mercantilists from every corner of the globe.
The US Labor market is nearly completely open to all comers. The H-1b's you frivolously dismiss just outsourced SoCon Edison. All of their IT, which is substantial.
Were all of those folks overpaid? Must the US labor market be equalized to the lowest common denominator?
Those we not just coding jobs. They were also job that require physical presence...Network Construction etc.
Since each of you is smugly confident in YOUR abilities, what about your children? Will they be able to compete with somebody at $20/hr? Is that how they will pay off their student loan?
Do you even givva sh!t about the cultural impact?
Are you associated with any political/PAC/Campaign or Chamber of Commerce entity?
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