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Jeb Bush: I’m going to try to persuade Republican voters to back immigration reform
Hot Air ^ | December 17, 2014 | Allahpundit

Posted on 12/17/2014 9:56:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The key bit comes at 1:20. BuzzFeed headlines this clip, “Jeb Bush Thinks He Can Persuade The Republican Base To Get Behind Immigration Legislation.” Is that what Bush said?

“A candidate gets to persuade,” Bush said to Miami’s NBC 6. “I think there’s a compelling case that if we want to be young and dynamic again, we have to make legal immigration easier than illegal immigration, that we control our borders, enforce the laws. But that we embrace our immigrant heritage and allow our country to take off. You gotta do both.”

“You gotta protect the borders, enforce the law, be respectful of the rule of law, and at the same time be able to encourage young aspirational people to come to our county,” Bush said. “It’s a win-win. I have no problems advancing that idea.”

Asked about it’s deep unpopularity again with the party base, Bush added “well we’ll see. If I run, we’ll see.”

It’s the reporter who mentions the base, i.e. conservatives. Bush is less specific, for good reason: His core strategy, I thought, was to accept that he can’t persuade conservatives and therefore shouldn’t try. The more you bend over backwards in the primaries to please them, a la Mitt Romney and “self-deportation,” the more trouble you’ll have maneuvering to the center in the general election. That’s what Bush’s weird “lose the primary to win the general” comment to fundraisers was about last week. (Then again, Romney didn’t pander on his core liability, RomneyCare. Some reversals, like Jeb turning hawkish on immigration, might seem too transparently opportunistic to voters to produce real benefits.) What he’s saying here, as I understand it, is that he’s going to try to convince his own particular base of centrists and “somewhat conservative” voters that they should embrace immigration reform — which isn’t a heavy lift, really. Lots of Republicans seem open to a deal on amnesty, just not the sort you’ll find on talk radio or writing for most conservative media. The trick for Bush isn’t convincing RINOs to back comprehensive legislation, it’s convincing them to back him to the hilt at the polls when, not if, the winner of the conservative mini-primary begins framing the nomination as a referendum on amnesty. Lots of tea partiers will turn out to try to beat Jeb if those are the stakes. Will centrists turn out in equal numbers to save him, especially with Obama’s executive order having further fouled the subject among GOPers?

Oh, speaking of Jeb drawing sharp contrasts with Romney, this tidbit from the NYT’s story today about his campaign launch is fun:

Further, the possibility of a third campaign by Mitt Romney, the Republicans’ 2012 standard-bearer, now seems less likely. Some party elites were eying a Romney revival in large part because they were seeking a candidate formidable enough to take on former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. Tension between supporters of the two Republicans have been rising, and at least one Romney adviser has expressed irritation to Mr. Bush’s backers about some of the former Florida governor’s recent criticism of Mr. Romney’s 2012 campaign.

Remember that when Mitt shocks the world and blows up Jeb’s campaign by jumping in next year. Romney III: This time it’s personal.

Exit question: Will anyone else competing for the centrist vote decide to try to persuade “somewhat conservative” voters to back amnesty? Most if not all of them, right? Christie will surely endorse a deal; I’ll be surprised if Walker doesn’t too; and Rubio already voted for a deal before trying desperately to run away from it. I’ve made this point before — as much as we’d like to think that the candidates’ stances on immigration will guide our preferences, the hard truth is that none of them will be very different from the others, with the possible exception of Cruz. And even Cruz isn’t going to take a Romneyesque “self-deportation” position; he might insist on a “security first” bill with legalization later but no path to citizenship, neglecting the fact that citizenship will inevitably follow for illegals once legalization is granted. The other candidates will be variations in degree, not in kind. E.g., Jeb might accept “security first” but endorse citizenship so long as there’s a long ripening period. Rand Paul might accept a comprehensive deal but with a long waiting period even for legalization. Rubio, eager to rehabilitate himself, will probably end up taking whatever position Cruz takes, knowing that moderates will reward him for his efforts on the Gang of Eight anyway. And if Romney jumps in, rest assured he’ll be firmly in the amnesty camp this time, the “self-deportation” stuff from 2012 notwithstanding. Republicans fear alienating Latino voters more than they already have. There’ll be no strong exceptions to that rule this time, or likely ever again.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Florida; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bush; immigration; jebbush; nomorebushes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
LOL, LOL, LOL....

Got any GOOD arguments?

21 posted on 12/17/2014 10:39:55 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jeb Bush 2016 Campaign Slogan, I want to be the next Dictator


22 posted on 12/17/2014 10:43:28 PM PST by Steelers6
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go for it, Jeb. Make amnesty and welfare/food stamps/etc for illegals the centerpiece of your campaign. The voters will give you all the support you deserve.


23 posted on 12/17/2014 10:46:47 PM PST by denydenydeny ("World History is not full of good governments, or of good voters either "--P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ummmm, no, you wanker.

Now, where the hell is Palin? Cruz?


24 posted on 12/17/2014 10:48:28 PM PST by biff (Et Tu Boeh-ner)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

go home Jeb, you’re leftist


25 posted on 12/17/2014 10:49:29 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NO HE WILL NOT, EVER!!


26 posted on 12/17/2014 10:49:46 PM PST by JSDude1 ( .)
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To: dowcaet
I heard a FOX poll yesterday.

Do not be deceived. Polls are meant to steer opinion, not measure it.


27 posted on 12/17/2014 10:49:53 PM PST by 867V309 (Boehner is the new Pelosi)
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To: DemforBush

They were ALSO shills for Romney against the conservative challenge of the month in 2012 as well.


28 posted on 12/17/2014 10:51:09 PM PST by JSDude1 ( .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Jeb runs, I fear/suspect we’ll see a 25% GOP turnout. He’ll be massacred.


29 posted on 12/17/2014 10:51:48 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“I think there’s a compelling case that if we want to be young and dynamic again, we have to make legal immigration easier than illegal immigration

Moron Bush elitist....

It's so GD easy to enter this country illegally, tens of millions have already done so and continue to do so. And then they're rewarded and offered prizes, gifts healthcare etc...Of course this is all aided and abetted by his government at all levels.

And yet another phony Bush elitist wants to make it easier for millions more to pour in legally, because it's so easy for illegals to do this?

??

In other words, another globalist from the Bush family just wants to totally eliminate the GD borders and our sovereignty.

Might as well, the same family made American citizenship all but pointless.

30 posted on 12/17/2014 10:52:38 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“You gotta protect the borders, enforce the law, be respectful of the rule of law, and at the same time be able to encourage young aspirational people to come to our county,” Bush said.


Racist! You only want your own kind here! The Irish and the Togoans can’t creep over the border. You only let Hispanics in, like your children. If you really want all aspirational illegals, go to other continents, round them up, and help fly or ship them here and sneak them in!


31 posted on 12/17/2014 10:57:43 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

What a male organ he is.


Male organs are at least useful.


32 posted on 12/17/2014 10:58:39 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Steelers6
All I can come up with for Bush is a slogan that might help him with Dem voters:

JEB BUSH -THIS ONE'S NOT SO BAD

33 posted on 12/17/2014 11:02:17 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FUJB!!


34 posted on 12/17/2014 11:02:51 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: txnativegop
Speaking of reality check.....

He isn't talking to us, here's talking to Manhattan billionaires, telling them how on-board he is with their border-erasing, transparent-world bla bla bla NWO.

Remember, it ain't about policy any more. It's about, "Hey, we paid you $6 million dollars, where are our cheap workers?!" It is about delivering to privileged actors.

36 posted on 12/17/2014 11:31:45 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for Lthe termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Delta 21
The only way Bush wins is if there are five indistinguishable conservatives in the primariess and he is the lone “moderate”. It will be McCain II.

Yes, and then it will be Obama III (Hillary or Warren) and they will be like Obama on steroids.

37 posted on 12/17/2014 11:34:19 PM PST by Mark17
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Romney - I love government mandates.

J Bush - I want to increase legal immigration.

Hey, the first became the Republican nominee, and folks around here were all gung ho to vote for him. Least J Bush is advocating something legal and constitutional.

What I want to know is who put the twilight zone on repeat and when we can actually return to conservative programming.

38 posted on 12/17/2014 11:34:57 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here comes another empty promise to seal the border to be forgotten as soon as they think no ones watching. Any illegal crossings at all is too many illegal crossings!
39 posted on 12/17/2014 11:39:28 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We HAVE TO vote for Jeb. He's the lesser of two evils.

I know this because I've been told the same many times and with great anger right here at FR.

40 posted on 12/17/2014 11:43:36 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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