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If you can remember when Fred, Morton and Bill were somebody, you're showing your age.
1 posted on 12/05/2014 3:51:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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The GOP peaked on Nov. 4 this year, then promptly surrendered. It’s all downhill from here. I won’t vote for another R for some time. Perhaps when they actually find spines I’ll consider it again. For now, however, I’m done.


2 posted on 12/05/2014 3:53:39 PM PST by dware ("White Privilege" stems from one's ability to lace up work boots and read a work schedule)
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“Mor-ton!”


4 posted on 12/05/2014 3:57:30 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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The GOP has already begun it’s dramatic death spiral


6 posted on 12/05/2014 3:58:02 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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President Obama is likely to make things worse for the Democratic candidate in 2016

A year ago, I said that Axlegrease and Plouffy could elect Charles Manson as a Democrat POTUS in '16 if they wanted. Now I'm not so sure. It won't be a dull two years ahead, that's for sure.

7 posted on 12/05/2014 3:59:11 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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The GOPE and these people who provide them cover and support can all go straight to H-E-L-L.


8 posted on 12/05/2014 4:00:30 PM PST by uncitizen (IM MAD AS HELL AND IM NOT GONNA TAKE THIS ANYMORE)
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Most of all, Republicans must avoid self-inflicted wounds such as prompting another government shutdown

I reject those assumptions.

/johnny

11 posted on 12/05/2014 4:02:55 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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If Hillary becomes unviable they still have a youthful Gov. Moonbeam in the wings (a sprightly 78 in 2016).

Someone needs to revise the lyrics to "Four Dead in Ohio" to "Four Dead in Benghazi" (in honor of Her Heinous).

"Jihad soldiers and MANPADS coming,
We're left here on our own,
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Benghazi..."

13 posted on 12/05/2014 4:25:15 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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If Hillary becomes unviable they still have a youthful Gov. Moonbeam in the wings (a sprightly 78 in 2016).

Someone needs to revise the lyrics to "Four Dead in Ohio" to "Four Dead in Benghazi" (in honor of Her Heinous).

"Jihad soldiers and MANPADS coming,
We're left here on our own,
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Benghazi..."

14 posted on 12/05/2014 4:25:15 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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The Republican presidential race, in contrast, is brimming with potential candidates  photo Republicans-Debate_Stage_zps110f9863.jpg
16 posted on 12/05/2014 4:39:50 PM PST by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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And they’re still a bunch of surrender monkey weenies.


21 posted on 12/05/2014 4:47:25 PM PST by LouAvul (If government is the answer, you're asking the wrong question.)
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Most of all, Republicans must avoid self-inflicted wounds such as...nominating a poor presidential candidate.

Something tells me that Fred and I would disagree on the parameters of this judgment.

22 posted on 12/05/2014 4:55:03 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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“Then there’s the ideological direction of the Democratic party. It’s tilting left. All the energy and passion is on the left. The party is being McGovernized.”

LOL. The dems were McGovernized in 1972 and have never looked back.


23 posted on 12/05/2014 4:55:44 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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Yup. I’m old.

The Republicans lost my trust and support when they nominated McCain.

They have a long way to go to earn them back.


24 posted on 12/05/2014 4:57:40 PM PST by Peter W. Kessler
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Immigration is different. It divides the country.

No it doesn't. The only division is between the political elite who want open borders, and the large majority of Americans who don't.

Even blue state Oregon voted 2-1 in November to deny drivers licenses to illegals.

How could one forget MorTON?

25 posted on 12/05/2014 5:00:04 PM PST by MUDDOG
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Barnes shows he’s as clueless as the GOPe leadership.


26 posted on 12/05/2014 5:00:41 PM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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Republicans need to attract more votes from minorities, particularly Hispanics.
Democrats need to attract white voters. The Republicans shouldn’t let them.
Most of all, Republicans must avoid self-inflicted wounds such as prompting another government shutdown
to say that is to say that they must cave on every budgetary issue. If not every issue. Obama can “shut down the government” any time he wants. And Fred Barnes will cooperate preemptively in blaming the Republicans for it.
or nominating a poor presidential candidate.
That pretty much boils down to not GOPe again. I wish I were confident on that score.

27 posted on 12/05/2014 5:09:50 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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" 69 of the 99 state legislative chambers"

OK, I'll bite. Which state does not have a legislative chamber?

32 posted on 12/05/2014 5:55:36 PM PST by fini
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That’s why they are pretending that they can’t do anything about Obola’s executive amnesty.


36 posted on 12/05/2014 6:07:05 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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Every year, slightly more than four million people in the USA reach voting age; eight million more each congressional election; 16 million each presidential election.

Each year, more than four million older Americans die off, thank God.

Young Republican voters helped midterm election’s red wave, exit polls show

The party, or parties, that can better sell their message for the future to the younger voters will be the party(ies) that control the future of the country.

The GOPe did itself no favors by forcing their establishment candidates on the voters in this year's primaries, but they were able to do so because younger voters tend to participate less in primary elections than do the older voters. Fortunately, the Democrats do no better with the younger voters in primaries than do the Republicans.

In my not so humble opinion, the Republicans (due to their overwhelming wins in the 2014 general elections) have an opportunity with the younger voters. Several prominent younger Republicans are entering office. Several were show-cased after the election, namely Mia Love, Tim Scott, the young lady in the WV House, and the NY congresswoman, etc.

None of the Democrats who recently won have been show-cased as anything; they were simply older commies who somehow managed to hold on to their butts in hard-core leftist territory.

Older politicians of both parties need to be ridiculed out of existence. They need to go away. Until they do, people just need to point and laugh, and throw tomatoes, or something. The shift in younger voters toward the GOP is discussed in the link above. Republicans need to exploit that shift with younger candidates; younger conservative candidates; younger common-sense conservative candidates.

Republicans need to talk to younger voters. Democrats already do, from the time the youngsters start walking. If they never hear an opposing point of view, they will only have the leftist message circling through their grey matter. Younger voters are not children. They are young adults who have been lied to all their lives, and their prospects for the future are particularly dismal at the moment. That makes for fertile ground in the compost pile of ideas.

38 posted on 12/05/2014 6:32:30 PM PST by meadsjn
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