Posted on 11/13/2014 6:19:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Not a perfect strategy but if youre grasping for last-minute ways to deter Obama from dropping the A-bomb, this may be your best shot. Impeachments not happening. If it did happen, Obama would welcome it as a post-landslide deus ex machina that turns the country against the GOP. Defundings probably not happening either, I hate to tell you. McConnell and Boehner will have no choice now but to insert language defunding executive amnesty in the new continuing resolution next month, but Obama will veto that CR. And I just dont believe B&M have the stomach for a protracted shutdown so soon after taking over Congress. Frankly, I figure thats half the reason Os suddenly eager to do amnesty this month instead of waiting until New Years. He wants Boehner and McConnell to choke on the idea of a new shutdown, knowing that theyd like nothing more than to pass some popular bipartisan bills instead to prove they can govern. Thats the state of Hopenchange in 2014 tossing unconstitutional, highly divisive policy grenades in hopes of triggering a shutdown or even impeachment. Just because it might help Democrats politically.
So heres an idea. Boehner and McConnell call a press conference flanked by Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Paul Ryan. If any Republican governors eyeing 2016 want to attend too, theyre invited Christie, Walker, Jindal, Jeb Bush, whoever. At the presser, B&M make a short statement: The GOP intends to challenge Obamas amnesty in court as an unconstitutional infringement on separation of powers. If, however, they lose that suit, theyll encourage any Republican successor to O to use the amnesty precedent in other areas of policy, starting with tax reform. Specifically, theyll advise the president to issue an executive order barring the IRS from collecting more than 10 percent of adjusted gross income from American taxpayers, a de facto flat tax. Like Obamas amnesty, that order will be temporary; a Democratic successor could rescind it with one stroke. Like Obamas amnesty, that order will be aimed at a highly contentious issue on which Congress is currently deadlocked. If the opposition party doesnt like the order, they can simply join the majority party in Congress in passing a compromise bill that supersedes it, just as Obama always says about the GOP and immigration. The point, obviously, is that the practice of dubious executive power grabs at Congresss expense can work for both parties. And will. Smarter liberals digested that point months ago, which is why theyre leery of Os amnesty. Dumber liberals will need it explained to them, verrrrry slooooowly. Once it is, if theyre still gung ho about the president appointing himself national lawgiver, well, okay. I guess thats America now. At least they wont act surprised when President Cruz starts doing this stuff.
As I say, though, not a perfect solution. The obvious problem: How do you argue on the one hand that Obamas doing something grossly unconstitutional while arguing on the other that youre prepared to do the same thing as soon as you have the chance? Thats what the lawsuits for. If, as everyone expects, a court tosses the GOPs complaint against O, then they can say that while they disagree with the courts ruling, it is what it is and itd be foolish for them not to use the same precedent to make America better. Having Boehner and McConnell deliver this message instead of the 2016ers themselves also creates a bit of a fig leaf in case one is needed on the campaign trail. If Rubio or Cruz et al. are asked whether theyll really issue an order like the tax one I mentioned, they can say they havent made up their minds, that that was B&Ms plan, but that obviously Democrats are in no position anymore to object to bold unilateral moves by a powerful executive. Clearly, they can say, theyd prefer that the president not have this power at all. But Barack Obama, con law professor turned president, decided that the legislature couldnt be trusted with legislative power, and a court agreed. Oh well.
Now that Obamas aides are floating specifics about his order to reporters, with hints that itll come sooner rather than later, its probably too late to stop it. Hed lose too much face with the amnesty shills if he bowed to GOP threats at the eleventh hour. But lets make this threat anyway, if only so that liberals know whats in store for them down the road when theyre busy celebrating Obamas authoritarianism next Friday.
why? who thinks they actually would?
Dumb and dumber. Yeah. That’s the trick. /s
you don’t seem to understand. The democrats who are advocating for executive action will be totally against it when gop is in power. Remember “nuclear option” in the senate was viewed negatively when gop was in control, but when dem came into power it didn’t stop them at all. Obama was against executive power when he was senator, but now he’s president he’s totally for it
Oh gee, the GOP will threaten to do leftist stuff too is going to really make Obama change his mind.
thinks they would what? hold a press conference to say totally stupid and useless things?
The corrupt judges will change their opinion based on who is in power too. They will allow any abuse of power by a Democrats but will be against the same when its done by a Republican
That would only happen if Sarah Palin was president.
I would also like to do what you proposed but I do not think it is the right thing to do for our republic. I know it will be hard to do but I think we need to play it cool and assume that the voters in the next election will give us another title wave to overcome the damage the Dems are doing. If the voters agree with Dems on the next election then it is over anyway. Our country will be gone in that case. Very sad.
Then Obama will issue an executive order that there will be no more elections and he will order himself president for life.
America has officially become a banana republic!
advising the GOP to be as lawless as Obama is supposed to be anything but a joke?
I agree. If he can wipe immigration laws off the books with his signature he can cancel the next election with his signature. I hope our folks in the House and Senate understand how serious this is.
And every time the presidency changes hands, we start over defining legality?
How long do you think we'll last before we lapse into madness and dictatorship?
Actually write a budget that balances payments on the debt, and spending on things that are necessary. Let the people keep the taxes not spent. Tell the President here is his budget and then spend some of the Republicans money running advertisements. A “shutdown” will save us more money, allow it to go on indefinitely. Six months, a year, I don’t care. Long enough to show that the only negative effects are on non-essential personnel. Spend money explaining how it is no big deal because the layoffs are NON-ESSENTIAL.
The republic is dead. The republic has been dead since 1861.
We have now entered into the death of the rule of law.
Whoever is most vocal, and most violent, will prevail.
How long? The party has already started.
Obama should realize that a banana republic without bananas has no solid foundation.
Have the capitol police start arresting SC justices, and administrative hacks once they enter the capitol grounds. Charge them with violating their oaths of office. This is the only way to get them....the capitol police report to the legislative branch not the DoJ. The Sergent-at-Arms is the person to do this work.
Make him do his job.
Don't count on that.
yes, in 1998 most people didn't think Bill Clinton's lying to hide an affair was an impeachable offense and it did hurt the Republicans.
However, there's a big difference between that and what Obummer is planning. Look at Oregon where driver's licenses for illegals was on the ballot, it went down 66% to 33%, so if even in ultra blue Oregon they are sick and tired of Illegal Immigrants, the whole country is not going to have a big problem with impeaching Obama
If the process starts it will be interesting to see the dems squirming under public pressure.
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