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To: Aetius

So now we’re supposed to be against legal immigration? How did your ancestors get here? Mine came on a ship from England in 1632 to settle what would become Pennsylvania with William Penn. That was legal immigration. For some reason our schools are not turning out nearly enough engineers, physicians, nurses, entrepreneurs and many other occupations, so we’re allowing a certain number to enter in to work here. That’s pretty much the opposite of illegal immigration. And most of those people are not Hispanic.


7 posted on 10/26/2014 10:14:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those 100,000 from Haiti are “legal” immigrants.. those hundreds of thousands of Muslims from all sorts of countries like Somalia being resettled here as refugees are “legal” immigrants.

No more mass refugee resettlements


9 posted on 10/26/2014 10:54:39 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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I’m surprised at your response. First of all, the question about how my ancestors got here is completely irrelevant. It’s ridiculous in so many ways.

Immigration policy is no different than any other public policy. It should be set with the best interests of the country and its citizens in mind. Nostalgia about family history is nice, but should have no bearing in setting policy on such a complicated issue . And it’s a generally leftist tactic this whole ‘where did you come from’ line. It’s meant to make people who are skeptical of current immigration policy feel guilty about holding such rational and mainstream views. It’s a way to sabotage a debate sorely in need of reason, logic, and facts with cheap emotion. It’s a way for proponents of an unpopular view to avoid defending their position on the merits.

Second of all, I was talking about mass legal immigration. You left out the ‘mass’ part. While I think opposing all immigration is a perfectly legitimate position, it’s not my position. I support legal immigration...much lower levels of legal immigration that is.

So yes, I would say that a conservative should be against mass legal immigration. Current mass legal immigration is already helping to turn the nation blue. Increasing immigration will only accelerate this process. Do you dispute that?

It’s a myth that there is a shortage of STEM workers, yet Cruz wants to increase the current annual limit of 65,000 five fold! But that could be forgiven if Cruz wanted to offset this by ending extended family chain migration, and by abolishing Ted Kennedy’s Diversity Lottery visas, and by severely restricting asylum and refugee visas.

It’s just puzzling at how someone as smart as Cruz doesn’t understand demographics. What will it take? Maybe when mass legal immigration has turned Texas into a battleground state? Will that do it?

I like Cruz. It’s an exciting prospect to think of a charismatic and articulate conservative leading the party in 2016 and beyond. Cruz could be that candidate. But as long as he supports mass legal immigration then he is whistling past the graveyard.

Either the GOP will end mass immigration or mass immigration will end the GOP (and conservative movement).


14 posted on 10/26/2014 11:17:28 PM PDT by Aetius
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