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Romney: 'If We Want to Get Rid of Obamacare, We're Going to Have to Replace President Obama'
The Weekly Standard ^ | June 28, 2012 | Daniel Halper

Posted on 06/28/2012 5:10:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney reacted to the Supreme Court's Obamacare decision by saying that, "if we want to get rid of Obamacare, we're going to have to replace President Obama."

"Let’s make clear that we understand what the Court did and did not do," Romney said today, speaking in Washington, D.C. "What the Court did today was say that Obamacare does not violate the Constitution. What they did not do was say that Obamacare is good law or that it's good policy."

Romney added: "Obamacare was bad policy yesterday. It's bad policy today. Obamacare was bad law yesterday. It’s bad law today."

This presidential election is "a choice," Romney said. "You can choose whether you want to have a larger and larger government, more and more intrusive in your life—separating you and your doctor—whether you're comfortable with more deficits, higher debt that we pass onto the coming generations. Whether you're willing to have the government put in place a plan that potentially causes you to lose the insurance that you like or whether instead you want to return to a time when the American people will have their own choice in healthcare. Where consumers will be able to make their choices as to what kind of health insurance they want."

"This is the time of choice for the American people," Romney said.

Romney concluded: "Help us. Help us defeat Obamacare. Help us defeat the liberal agenda that makes government too big, too intrusive, and is killing jobs across this great country."

Here's video:

(VIDEO AT LINK)


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2012; abortion; deathpanels; obama; obamacare; romney; romneycare; romneycare4u; romneycarelives; socializedmedicine; zerocare
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The major problem am sensing is the repeal could take until 2017. I have to wonder will Americans sit still that long and cling to the ballot box? Some of the posts have been crazy today. What if ... the ifs have it?


51 posted on 06/28/2012 5:57:56 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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Obama’s biggest lie – “Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.”

Full List of Obamacare Tax Hikes

Obamacare law contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses

Taxpayers are reminded that the President’s healthcare law is one of the largest tax increases in American history.

Obamacare contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses. 

Arranged by their respective effective dates, below is the total list of all $500 billion-plus in tax hikes (over the next ten years) in Obamacare, where to find them in the bill, and how much your taxes are scheduled to go up as of today:

Taxes that took effect in 2010:

1. Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals (Min$/immediate): $50,000 per hospital if they fail to meet new "community health assessment needs," "financial assistance," and "billing and collection" rules set by HHS. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,961-1,971

2. Codification of the “economic substance doctrine” (Tax hike of $4.5 billion).  This provision allows the IRS to disallow completely-legal tax deductions and other legal tax-minimizing plans just because the IRS deems that the action lacks “substance” and is merely intended to reduce taxes owed. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 108-113

3. “Black liquor” tax hike (Tax hike of $23.6 billion).  This is a tax increase on a type of bio-fuel. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 105

4. Tax on Innovator Drug Companies ($22.2 bil/Jan 2010): $2.3 billion annual tax on the industry imposed relative to share of sales made that year. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,971-1,980

5. Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike ($0.4 bil/Jan 2010): The special tax deduction in current law for Blue Cross/Blue Shield companies would only be allowed if 85 percent or more of premium revenues are spent on clinical services. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,004

6. Tax on Indoor Tanning Services ($2.7 billion/July 1, 2010): New 10 percent excise tax on Americans using indoor tanning salons. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,397-2,399

Taxes that took effect in 2011:

7. Medicine Cabinet Tax ($5 bil/Jan 2011): Americans no longer able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin). Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957-1,959

8. HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike ($1.4 bil/Jan 2011): Increases additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,959

Tax that took effect in 2012:

9. Employer Reporting of Insurance on W-2 (Min$/Jan 2012): Preamble to taxing health benefits on individual tax returns. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957

Taxes that take effect in 2013:

10. Surtax on Investment Income ($123 billion/Jan. 2013):  Creation of a new, 3.8 percent surtax on investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 ($200,000 single).  This would result in the following top tax rates on investment income: Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 87-93

 

Capital Gains

Dividends

Other*

2012

15%

15%

35%

2013+

23.8%

43.4%

43.4%

 

*Other unearned income includes (for surtax purposes) gross income from interest, annuities, royalties, net rents, and passive income in partnerships and Subchapter-S corporations.  It does not include municipal bond interest or life insurance proceeds, since those do not add to gross income.  It does not include active trade or business income, fair market value sales of ownership in pass-through entities, or distributions from retirement plans.  The 3.8% surtax does not apply to non-resident aliens.

11. Hike in Medicare Payroll Tax ($86.8 bil/Jan 2013): Current law and changes:

 

First $200,000
($250,000 Married)
Employer/Employee

All Remaining Wages
Employer/Employee

Current Law

1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed

1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed

Obamacare Tax Hike

1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed

1.45%/2.35%
3.8% self-employed

 

Bill: PPACA, Reconciliation Act; Page: 2000-2003; 87-93

12. Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers ($20 bil/Jan 2013): Medical device manufacturers employ 360,000 people in 6000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3% excise tax.  Exempts items retailing for <$100. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,980-1,986

13. Raise "Haircut" for Medical Itemized Deduction from 7.5% to 10% of AGI ($15.2 bil/Jan 2013): Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI).  The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. Waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994-1,995

14. Flexible Spending Account Cap – aka “Special Needs Kids Tax” ($13 bil/Jan 2013): Imposes cap on FSAs of $2500 (now unlimited).  Indexed to inflation after 2013. There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children.  There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education.  Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs educationBill: PPACA; Page: 2,388-2,389

15. Elimination of tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D ($4.5 bil/Jan 2013) Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994

16. $500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives ($0.6 bil/Jan 2013). Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,995-2,000

Taxes that take effect in 2014:

17. Individual Mandate Excise Tax (Jan 2014): Starting in 2014, anyone not buying “qualifying” health insurance must pay an income surtax according to the higher of the following

 

1 Adult

2 Adults

3+ Adults

2014

1% AGI/$95

1% AGI/$190

1% AGI/$285

2015

2% AGI/$325

2% AGI/$650

2% AGI/$975

2016 +

2.5% AGI/$695

2.5% AGI/$1390

2.5% AGI/$2085

 

Exemptions for religious objectors, undocumented immigrants, prisoners, those earning less than the poverty line, members of Indian tribes, and hardship cases (determined by HHS). Bill: PPACA; Page: 317-337

18. Employer Mandate Tax (Jan 2014):  If an employer does not offer health coverage, and at least one employee qualifies for a health tax credit, the employer must pay an additional non-deductible tax of $2000 for all full-time employees.  Applies to all employers with 50 or more employees. If any employee actually receives coverage through the exchange, the penalty on the employer for that employee rises to $3000. If the employer requires a waiting period to enroll in coverage of 30-60 days, there is a $400 tax per employee ($600 if the period is 60 days or longer). Bill: PPACA; Page: 345-346

Combined score of individual and employer mandate tax penalty: $65 billion/10 years

19. Tax on Health Insurers ($60.1 bil/Jan 2014): Annual tax on the industry imposed relative to health insurance premiums collected that year.  Phases in gradually until 2018.  Fully-imposed on firms with $50 million in profits. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,986-1,993

Taxes that take effect in 2018:

20. Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans ($32 bil/Jan 2018): Starting in 2018, new 40 percent excise tax on “Cadillac” health insurance plans ($10,200 single/$27,500 family).  Higher threshold ($11,500 single/$29,450 family) for early retirees and high-risk professions.  CPI +1 percentage point indexed. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,941-1,956


52 posted on 06/28/2012 5:58:38 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: unixfox

51 to repeal.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/with-51-senators-gop-can-eliminate-mandate/article/2500865


53 posted on 06/28/2012 5:59:08 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Tzimisce
Thank God we stopped:

Who knows what damage these two would have done!

54 posted on 06/28/2012 5:59:23 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Ave.

Very good!!!!

Merci.


55 posted on 06/28/2012 6:00:03 PM PDT by MCSP2008 (Romanian native > ESL)
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To: TurboZamboni

The rule, in the Senate, of 60 is currently in effect. Am thinking that rule will continue until 60 is reached.


56 posted on 06/28/2012 6:01:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: MeanGreen2008

Not new Zealand

its Socialist...


57 posted on 06/28/2012 6:02:24 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The reason theres only two is that many try to co opt one of the two rather than starting a third.

Can anyone name the GOP nominee they supported?

There’s your sign that you are wasting your time in trying to make the GOP into the Constitution Party.


58 posted on 06/28/2012 6:03:05 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: MeanGreen2008

http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

US is 10th.

1-9 are less socialist.

And that was before today!


59 posted on 06/28/2012 6:04:53 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Civil war has been declared and we must pick a side. There are only two parties in the USA, pick one.
Yup.
60 posted on 06/28/2012 6:05:20 PM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: ansel12
Declaring defeat before the battle is fought doesn't help much either. Wailing and gnashing of teeth is dramatic; working and hashing out solutions to problems is tedious and boring--but absolutely the only way to really accomplish a desired result.

For the sake of our nation, we have to make sure Obama is NOT re-elected, and the only way to do that is work toward electing someone else--who, for better or for worse--is Romney.

Those who do not vote for Romney will only be helping ensure Obama is re-elected. I don't like that fact--but it doesn't change the reality of it. In 2006, many of us didn't vote for Republican candidates because they were not to our liking, and look where that got us. A Dem majority in BOTH houses!

Now THAT showed them!

61 posted on 06/28/2012 6:05:34 PM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: milagro
Those who do not vote for Romney will only be helping ensure Obama is re-elected. I don't like that fact--but it doesn't change the reality of it. In 2006, many of us didn't vote for Republican candidates because they were not to our liking, and look where that got us. A Dem majority in BOTH houses! Now THAT showed them!
Well said.
62 posted on 06/28/2012 6:08:18 PM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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To: NoLibZone

No. Or, on that note, one tax that has ever been repealed, revoked, or stopped (even those that were claimed to be “temporary”).


63 posted on 06/28/2012 6:10:48 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: BfloGuy

Amen.

That crazy minority of screaming idiots are really getting
on everyone’s last nerve.


64 posted on 06/28/2012 6:15:47 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: milagro

I side with JR on this, and unlike you I didn’t vote against the republicans in 2006.

If you support Romney and want him to lead your party and your movement, then vote for him.


65 posted on 06/28/2012 6:18:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why do should anyone believe that Romney would push for repeal of Obamacare,

when he gave us Romneycare ?


66 posted on 06/28/2012 6:18:17 PM PDT by fred42 ("Get your facts first, then you can distort 'em as much as you need." - Mark Twain)
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To: Kickass Conservative
The Filibuster Rule cannot be applied because of how Obamacare was originally passed using the Reconciliation Process.

Interesting. The Democrats may end up hoist on their own petard. Let's work hard for that!!

67 posted on 06/28/2012 6:21:34 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: samtheman

I’ve been on that bandwagon since 2008 but it might take more injuries and abuses for some of our fellow freepers to actually join the fight we have in front of us instead of the last one.


68 posted on 06/28/2012 6:24:13 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: BfloGuy
The vast majority of Americans (85%) are quite content with their health insurance. Romney doesn't need to replace the current situation with anything.

Exactly! We don't need the Republicans fiddling with it anymore than we needed the Democrats doing it!

69 posted on 06/28/2012 6:26:34 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Salve

Everything will be good friend, I am just shocked at amount.

Merci.


70 posted on 06/28/2012 6:38:15 PM PDT by MCSP2008 (Romanian native > ESL)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

71 posted on 06/28/2012 6:50:00 PM PDT by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: unixfox

Now that Obamacare has been defined as a TAX BILL, only 51 votes are needed in the Senate. No filibuster of TAX BILLS.

Unintended consequence of Roberts treason.


72 posted on 06/28/2012 6:54:17 PM PDT by Leto (Damn shame Sarah didn't run the Presidency was there for the taking)
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To: Nervous Tick

I’m not saying I want to go to any of those countries.


73 posted on 06/28/2012 7:11:29 PM PDT by MeanGreen2008
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To: MeanGreen2008

One term and the damage is done, perhaps beyond repair. Romney is going to have to swing the axe far and wide on the federal government for me to even consider voting for him. If he is willing to bring the fedgovmonster under control, and is determined to do just that, then he may earn my respect, and possibly my vote. Until then, all bets are off.


74 posted on 06/28/2012 8:21:04 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: ansel12
Ever since the last election in 2008 everything is surreal.


75 posted on 06/28/2012 8:25:52 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

2010 was historically great, but even then the Romney/Rockefeller wing of the GOP fought some Republican nominees AFTER they won the primary, because they were conservatives.


76 posted on 06/28/2012 8:49:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: factoryrat

Conservatives who are not 100% behind Romney are abandoning their conservatism and will help keep ObamaCare.

Dah? Obama.

That’s why Rush, Levin, Palin, and Reagan, in his grave, support Romney. The grownups will get Romney Elected! It’s Romney vs Obama. Who’s better for America?


77 posted on 06/29/2012 12:01:59 AM PDT by factmart
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To: factmart

We are screwed six ways to Sunday. You have either obama the arrogant prick, or romney the used car salesman. Either way, nothing good will come from electing either of these idiots to office. The lesser of two evils has its limits, if you go from the frying pan, and into the fire. Obama and romney have more in common than they have differences, and their actions will prove that out.


78 posted on 06/29/2012 9:00:16 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat

Go vote for zero


79 posted on 06/29/2012 9:26:32 PM PDT by factmart
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To: factoryrat

Vote Foe Zero

Leave us Romney Supporters alone,


80 posted on 06/29/2012 9:30:15 PM PDT by factmart
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To: factmart
We could just change “obamacare” to “romneycare” if romney manages to get elected. Obama probably got the idea from what romney did with Massachusetts. Two sides, same coin.
81 posted on 06/30/2012 8:50:19 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat

Palin will be there for Romney and America unlike some dumb freepers who keep putting Romney down as to keep Obamacare and Obama as President.

No Republican House and SENATE WILL let us have anything like Romney care.

Help America by Getting Romney elected.


82 posted on 06/30/2012 10:17:58 PM PDT by factmart
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To: factmart
Obamacare mimics what romney did for healthcare in Massachusetts. The federal government is now packed with like minded people (socialists), and the only thing they are squabbling over is how to implement it, and how to divide the spoils. Palin had her chance, but she backed down, and that relegated her to irrelevance. When you have to deal with full blown socialists, you never back down, and you throw everything they dish out right back at them. The majority of the conservatives have a weak stomach, and don't know how to deal with monsters. Listen the us people who have dealt with the POS Chicago thugs like obama, we know what they're up to, and how to deal with them. As for romney, he'll blow smoke up your ass all day long if he thinks you'll vote for him, then throw you to the wolves when he's done with you.
83 posted on 07/01/2012 5:41:45 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And all the Democrats and all the RINOs.


84 posted on 07/02/2012 6:16:54 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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