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1 posted on 03/08/2002 12:55:29 PM PST by PRO 1
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Amazing story. Saw a woman from the Red Cross *try* and defend this on Fox today. Lame. And she simply could not bring herself to defend the US Constitution either, which she said was a 'political document.' Of course the Red Cross is a very political organization, and the IRC is leftist. These people are a disgrace.
2 posted on 03/08/2002 12:59:42 PM PST by veronica
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Would you guys be interested in posting the story? Or providing a link to it? Thanks.
4 posted on 03/08/2002 1:03:34 PM PST by angkor
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Orange County Red Cross
5 posted on 03/08/2002 1:04:53 PM PST by kcvl
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Orange County California! Its hard to believe, I mean they are sooooooo right!
6 posted on 03/08/2002 1:05:15 PM PST by roylene
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huh? What's the story?
7 posted on 03/08/2002 1:05:21 PM PST by Rodney King
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No wonder it's called the "Red" Cross. Aren't they the ones who took 9-11 donations meant for the families and spent it on "diversity" advertising?

This is why they don't get my money. I hope one of their shills calls asking for a donation.

9 posted on 03/08/2002 1:06:22 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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Red Cross AKA Anit-Cross Aka Anti God AKA Pro ISlam
10 posted on 03/08/2002 1:10:40 PM PST by KQQL
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All I can tell is that this story is so fresh at this moment that there is little linkable info as of yet. **KEEP LOOKING**

Sorry the PRO1 cannot be more helpfull.

11 posted on 03/08/2002 1:10:43 PM PST by PRO 1
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Someone better come up with some new charities fast, the Red Cross and the United Way are going to tank, just like K-Mart, Ford, and everyone else we don't like.
13 posted on 03/08/2002 1:11:50 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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I need to find out more about this story:

I had a beef with the Am. Red Cross a few weeks ago and this information would be very important to me. Here's some of the response I got...

Dear Mr. Facemyer,

I was forwarded your attached message from the Illinois-Missouri Blood Region of the American Red Cross for further clarification of your questions. If my understanding is correct, your concern is that the ICRC is being overly critical of the U.S. Government, and therefore you are withholding blood and monetary donations from the American Red Cross, and consequently needy Americans, in protest.

Hopefully, I can negate some of your concerns that the ICRC is overly critical of the U.S., which isn't necessarily true. ......[ SNIP ]

Ashland, Missouri

14 posted on 03/08/2002 1:14:45 PM PST by rface
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Can you tell us what the story is? The Red Cross stopped some kids for singing?
16 posted on 03/08/2002 1:17:23 PM PST by Rodney King
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wow.....
21 posted on 03/08/2002 1:26:38 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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Call these freaking punks at: (714) 481-5300
31 posted on 03/08/2002 1:37:51 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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Write John Gibson, Fox News, at MYWORD@FOXNEWS.COM.

Do it now! He just covered this on Fox News with his "My Word" editorial and is planning on covering this idiot Anti-American behavior on his Monday show! He said on air that he's expecting his e-mail-box to be flooded with notes!

BTW, he called the American Red Cross "Bolshevik"! I loved it! GO, JOHN!!!!!!!!

44 posted on 03/08/2002 2:04:37 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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Hopefully Michael Savage will discuss this on his show. And to think this happened in "so-called conservative" Orange County CA. Has anybody been there lately? I left that area almost 4 years ago. The more appropriate name for that place is "Occupied Orange County"
50 posted on 03/08/2002 2:22:14 PM PST by jragan2001
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I'm still waiting for the Red Cross to complain about the way Danny Pearl was treated by his captors. The silence is deafening. What is wrong with them?
53 posted on 03/08/2002 2:29:32 PM PST by texasbluebell
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Here's what I just e-mailed to John Gibson of FoxNews.

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Mr. Gibson - LOVED your "My Word" editorial on your show this afternoon. I especially revelled in the "bolshevik" comment, which is probably more apropos than many people would be willing to admit or understand.

The fact that the Red Cross symbol was originally a simple reverse of the cross (representing the Holy Roman Empire!!!) found on the Swiss flag is very telling about the origins of the organization and the goals of its founders.

Check this story out (copied for you below with its source URL). You may wish to get this writer/historian on your Monday show. (John Hutchinson is on faculty at Simon Frasier University. His contact information found via the university's search function is: john_hutchinson@sfu.ca Phone: 1 604 291 4306)

(My name here), loyal FoxNews viewer for several years now
(My town here)
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http://www.sfu.ca/mediapr/sfnews/1996/May9/redcross.html

May 9, 1996 Vol . 6, No. 1
SFU historian writes Red Cross story
By Bruce Mason

The Red Cross - perhaps the world's most recognized symbol and largest organized charity - is rarely scrutinized. Despite more than 125 years of rapid growth and transformation, its image of universal benevolence remains remarkably unchanged.

Now, the first objective and critical study, Champions of Charity: War and the Rise of the Red Cross by SFU historian John Hutchinson - has been published revealing previously untold dark chapters and how the intentions of its founders were compromised soon after its inception at the Geneva Convention of 1863. Almost 100 posters, photos and postcards illuminate this revealing new perspective on organized charity, war and the state.

"We knew the Red Cross existed, and that its existence was a good thing, but we took it and its goodness entirely for granted," notes Hutchinson, who spent a decade researching and writing the book.

"In fact, Red Cross societies aided and abetted the militarization of charity before and during World War I. The leaders of most national societies enthusiastically prepared for whatever war service armies and government wished them to perform," he explains.

In "Champions of Charity", Hutchinson weaves together tumultuous events and colorful, larger-than-life figures - from the birth of the Red Cross to its remarkable growth and rapid change before and after World War I.

During work on an earlier book on revolutionary Russia, Hutchinson first uncovered criticism of the Red Cross. He also developed skills that he would need to gather information for a history on the organization - unacknowledged by its own literature - that was little known.

Denied free access to the archives of the International Committee of the Red Cross in Geneva, he found the details for a rich historical narrative of the first 50-plus years of the organization's history in Europe, the U.S. and Japan. And he discovered the diverse roles played by national societies: the precisely organized Germans, the chaotic and factionalized French, the military efficiency of the Japanese and the hard selling patriotism of the Americans.

"The original founders had a grand vision to make war less barbaric through a display of Christian charity by neutral volunteer nurses who would assist and aid wounded and dying soldiers," reports Hutchinson.

"However, within decades, Red Cross societies had become wartime propagandists who issued military-style uniforms to members," he says. "They were used to efficiently recycle wounded soldiers back into the front lines and raise funds which enabled governments to spend more on war."

Hutchinson was surprised to discover that one early critic of the idea of the Red Cross was Florence Nightingale, who feared that it "would render war more easy." She refused an invitation to help found a society in England.

Hutchinson uncovered a prominent American who was sentenced to 30 months in jail for criticizing the organization. The sanctity of the Red Cross is driven home in one poster of the Stars and Stripes and the Red Cross flag with the caption, "Loyalty to One Means Loyalty to Both."

And he investigates the mass involvement of women on the home front, the emergence of civilian enthusiasm and patriotism and the search for avenues of continued growth in peace time.

"Thanks to "tainted blood" scandals in France and Canada, the Red Cross will likely never again be regarded as a sacred cow," says Hutchinson who intends to write a second volume on the Red Cross and international health.

55 posted on 03/08/2002 2:35:06 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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I just FReeped their email. These people need to be inumdated with our protests.
59 posted on 03/08/2002 2:49:26 PM PST by clintonh8r
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I have already written John Gibson (Fox News - The BIG Story) and asked him to put the Orange County Red Cross interview as a link on his site.

I checked other news sources and as of the last half hour, no links to news stories yet on this subject.

60 posted on 03/08/2002 2:53:45 PM PST by Cindy
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Freepin' time.
63 posted on 03/08/2002 2:57:25 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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