Atomic Threat- Officials Warn: "It's going to be worse, and a lot of people are going to die"

Matt Drudge ^ | 030302 | AntiDemoCommie

[antidemocommie]

"Counterterrorism experts and government officials interviewed by TIME say that for all the relative calm since Sept. 11, America’s luck will probably run out again, sooner or later." "It's going to be worse, and a lot of people are going to die," warns one U.S. counterterrorism official. "I don't think there's a damn thing we're going to be able to do about it."

Read on:...That made the DRAGONFIRE report alarming. So did this: detonated in lower Manhattan, a 10-kiloton bomb would kill some 100,000 civilians and irradiate 700,000 more, flattening everything in a half-mile diameter.

The following is more information that you can use to protect yourself, and your family. Also, in your opinion, is the administration correct? Are we likely to see a ten kiloton device set off inside the country? Please keep in mind that this kind of nuke is very small, and easily carried by one or two persons, today.

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Blast Zones

Breakdown of Atomic Blast Zones

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Diagram Outline

[1] Vaporization Point

Everything is vaporized by the atomic blast.
98% fatalities.
Overpress=25 psi. Wind velocity=320 mph.

[2] Total Destruction

All structures above ground are destroyed.
90% fatalities
Overpress=17 psi. Wind velocity=290 mph.

[3] Severe Blast Damage

Factories and other large-scale building collapse. Severe damage to highway bridges. Rivers sometimes flow countercurrent.
65% fatalities, 30% injured.
Overpress=9 psi. Wind velocity=260 mph.

[4] Severe Heat Damage

Everything flammable burns. People in the area suffocate due to the fact that most available oxygen is consumed by the fires.
50% fatalities, 45% injured.
Overpress=6 psi. Wind velocity=140 mph.

[5] Severe Fire & Wind Damage

Residency structures are severely damaged. People are blown around. 2nd and 3rd-degree burns suffered by most survivors.
15% dead. 50% injured.
Overpress=3 psi. Wind velocity=98 mph.

Blast Zone Radii

3 different bomb types

	10 KILOTONS	1 MEGATON	20 MEGATONS
Zone	Airburst - 1,980 ft	Airburst - 8,000 ft	Airburst - 17,500 ft
1	0.5 miles	2.5 miles	8.75 miles
2	1 mile	3.75 miles	14 miles
3	1.75 miles	6.5 miles	27 miles
4	2.5 miles	7.75 miles	31 miles
5	3 miles	10 miles	35 miles

Note

• The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was 20 Kilotons
• The bomb dropped on Nagasaki was less than 10 Kilotons

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Hiroshima

Hiroshima

As many know, atomic bombs have been used only twice in warfare. The first and foremost blast site of the atomic bomb is Hiroshima. A Uranium bomb (which weighed in at over 4 & 1/2 tons) nicknamed "Little Boy" was dropped on Hiroshima August 6th, 1945. The Aioi Bridge, one of 81 bridges connecting the seven-branched delta of the Ota River, was the aiming point of the bomb. Ground Zero was set at 1,980 feet. At 0815 hours, the bomb was dropped from the Enola Gay. It missed by only 800 feet. At 0816 hours, in the flash of an instant, 66,000 people were killed and 69,000 people were injured by a 20 kiloton atomic explosion.

The point of total vaporization from the blast measured one half of a mile in diameter. Total destruction ranged at one mile in diameter. Severe blast damage carried as far as two miles in diameter. At two and a half miles, everything flammable in the area burned. The remaining area of the blast zone was riddled with serious blazes that stretched out to the final edge at a little over three miles in diameter.

Nagasaki

On August 9th 1945, Nagasaki fell to the same treatment as Hiroshima. Only this time, a Plutonium bomb nicknamed "Fat Man" was dropped on the city. Even though the "Fat Man" missed by over a mile and a half, it still leveled nearly half the city. Nagasaki's population dropped in one split-second from 422,000 to 383,000. 39,000 were killed, over 25,000 were injured. That blast was less than 10 kilotons as well. Estimates from physicists who have studied each atomic explosion state that the bombs that were used had utilized only 1/10th of 1 percent of their respective explosive capabilities.

[McGavin999]

Well, that pretty much assures that the attempt will be on the coast line. Those are the only population centers large enough to have the kind of effect the terrorist would want. Looks like New York, Miami, Philly or else San Francisco, LA or Seattle.

My bet has been on the west coast since they seem to have gotten over the "terror" and have pretty much discounted any problem. The terrorists want people to be terrorized, California has pretty much "moved on".

[AngrySpud]

Watch what comes next ... the appeasement-commies, led by the likes of the 'toon, will loudly scream that we must spend Billions on aid to "destitute" Muslim countries. After all, we know that poverty leads to evil acts (sarcasm off).

[antidemocommie]

Can you imagine the kind of economic impact this would have around the globe? Recession? HA! It would cause world wide depression.

[wretchard]

The only possible response to a nuke must be an immediate counterstrike with hundreds of nuclear weapons on every Islamic country, followed by a biological attack on the survivors. Unless this is done, the United States will be destroyed, one city at a time, until it is no more. Life or death, choose.

[Joee]

Then there is the long term results, which will probably destroy much of our economy and the worlds. The retribution we level at our enemies, will add to the terror of it all. I don't think anyone can picture the ruination that such an event will have on the world. 9/ll was just the beginning. Pray that this will never come about!

[antidemocommie]

Yes, but we may not know about the super handouts given to those who would rather see us dead. Congress is full of creeps who think more about their jobs than they do about liberty.

[AngrySpud]

" ... California has pretty much moved on."

IMHO, I believe terrorists will next strike the heartland, so that no one, even those in "flyover" country, can feel safe.

[Fighting Irish]

I still think the idea of terrorists having such a device is pretty much cow manure.

Makes great headlines though....

[Cyber Liberty]

CORRECTIONS:

The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was 20 Kilotons

Nope. "Little Boy" was about 14 Kilotons.

The bomb dropped on Nagasaki was less than 10 Kilotons

"Fat Man" was the same size as the New Mexico blast, which was about 20 Kilotons.

[neutrino]

The coasts would be easier to get to...and the bad guys are likely to want high profile cities.

The real question, however, is what happens next? While I have been (and AM!!) a strong supporter of President Bush, the terrorist leaders are still functioning. The terrorist orgnaizations are still operating. And the societies that spawned them are making more just like them.

If we get nuked, what do we do? Other than the perfunctory statements of sorrow and anguish, that is? The sad thing is, I suspect that the puppetmasters (Iran, Iraq, Syria, and perhaps China) are largely safe from the retaliation they deserve. And we go flailing about endlessly after an elusive proxy for the real bad guys.

[Euro-American Scum]

IMHO, I believe terrorists will next strike the heartland, so that no one, even those in "flyover" country, can feel safe.

I have to disagree with you on this one. California is ripe for such an attack. With an open border, and most of us out here so caught up in being kinder and gentler. . . well, you figure it out.

[ctonious]

I imagine such an event would give new meaning to America's obsession with "Survivor".

[antidemocommie]

An attack of this kind would wipe out millions of jobs in one micro second. Crime would go through the roof as a result of poverty. We are not the country we were back in the 30s. Crime did not go up as a result of the Depression period. But, this time, crime would go through the roof, and Americans would have to fight off the trash that would attack them and their homes.

[glc1173@aol.com]

"Well, that pretty much assures that the attempt will be on the coast line. Those are the only population centers large enough to have the kind of effect the terrorist would want. Looks like New York, Miami, Philly or else San Francisco, LA or Seattle."

Count on it being either NYC or Washington. Both offer good population density, excellent assured "mainstream" media coverage worldwide. NYC area is heavily-Jewish; half of all U.S. Jews live in NYC metro area. Washington - despite "shadow government" in Fuhrerbunkers - offers likely destruction of federal government functionality.

Right now, snailmail crawls in Washington area due to USPS irradiation of all snailmail there after anthrax mess. That's as in crawls even when all facilities and personnel are intact. Now imagine what snailmail would be like after loss of 50% of USPS facilities in a major metro center and loss of 50% of USPS personnel there. The Left never got it when ridiculing Reagan about change-of-address cards for nuclear-war survivors; in reality, "continuity of (federal) government" just won't happen after even just Washington is nuked - as the mid-level cadres of the bureaucracy and their facilities won't be there for the guys in the Fuhrerbunkers to command.

[Saturnalia]

A better nuke map may be found here.

[Joee]

Very true! Of course Marshal Law would be in effect in many areas and I would guess some pretty harsh sentences too. There would be moblization, I would think. Then increased government mandate as the crisis progressed. 9/11 will take several years to dig out. This kind of destruction may take decades, if the resources are there to begin with.

[Miss Marple]

Well, first of all we can all sit around and panic, but that won't help. I do not think it would destroy the economy, and that is overstating the case. What it would do is divert the economy from some consumer goods to military and survival stuff, as well as medical.

I think they have had this bomb here for some time. I think we know this, and that is why we have not done a complete sweep of Islamic immigrants...it would press them to go ahead and set it off before they are caught.

I said back in September that I felt we would take a nuclear hit, and I still believe it. To me the likely place would be Chicago, St. Louis, or Houston. Maybe New Orleans. They like the idea that they can strike anywhere.

[sam_paine]

10 KILOTONS...Airburst - 1,980 ft

I think these numbers are misleading. How are they gonna get this thing to 2000ft? If these are detonated at ground level, the direct impact is severely limited compared to an airblast.

So they're going to have to fly it in a kamikaze general aviation airplane, and a 10kTon "suitcase" nuke is bound to be larger than pocket-size...more like back-of-a-pickup size. I think it's going to be really a lot harder to pull this off than hijacking a plane and flying it into a building....

...if it was easier for AlQaeda to do than the 9/11 hijackings, then why not do the nuke-case first???

Dirty Nuke is much more likely, and like the Anthrax scare, much more scary than actually destructive.

[toddst]

IMHO, I believe terrorists will next strike the heartland, so that no one, even those in "flyover" country, can feel safe

Perhaps, but I doubt they will waste such a high-cost resource where the damage done is minimized by a relatively low density target. We're still pretty darn safe away from the coast.