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Lord of the Rings Discussion Group (The Green Dragon Inn)

Posted on 02/15/2002 7:01:31 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Green Dragon Inn


Approaching The Green Dragon Inn
Hobbiton, in The Shire

The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And wither then? I cannot say.
- JRR Tolkien

Politics also goes ever on and on.
This is a place for FReeper Tolkien fans to come and take a break from the impure reality of conservative activism and relax a little with a great story. We (the other co-conspirators and I) would like to study together the writings of Tolkien, beginning together, and discussing as we go through The Lord of the Rings together.

This is a chapter discussion, roughly one chapter per week, with the discussion mostly centered on the books, though of course the movie will be contrasted and compared, and perhaps used to illustrate another interpretation of the story.

When we are ready to move on, someone from the group (maybe me) will ping The Green Dragon List to the new Chapter, but we will continue this one thread until it becomes too cumbersome…. Let me know if you would like to be on - or off - this list. I will for now serve as the Thain of the list.

If you are joining late, jump right in, but please stick to the chapter currently being discussed.

Some have loved this story a long time, and some are newly discovering it. If you fit either category, we invite you to join in, but we would like this thread to stay mostly focused on the chapter at hand and keep moving, but at a pace everyone can keep up with… No jumping ahead, and no lagging behind! If you have other news to report or wish to discuss something Tolkien in more general terms… May we recommend the equally homey Hobbit Hole where my co-conspirators and I frequently have plenty of good talk.

One other request…. This thread will get long. In recognition that images slow down the thread for many and take up bandwidth, let’s keep the posting of images to a minimum on this thread. If there is a great illustration you wish to share, let’s try to use links instead of images wherever possible.

So lets read, listen and become inspired by the many aspects of The Lord of the Rings that touch us deeply and reconnect us to the values we aspire to. Many great discussions have already been had, and I hope that this thread will produce even more. Many FReepers have wonderful things to say about LoTR, whether the fantasy reconnects them with their faith, with their relationships with friends and family, or simply illustrates the splendor of great acts of heroism and sacrifice in the constant battle of virtue versus corruption.

Though it is a work of fiction, we believe the inspiration to be gained can only help us in our larger political goals: to guard and defend our freedom, our culture and our political ideals. May the fellowship and insight gained from this discussion help us to work through the issues that are the basis for our many shared ideals.

Besides, we Tolkien fans* need something to keep us busy during the next two years of waiting for the next two films. If you do not enjoy this story, then please simply leave us be.

*Also known as Geeky Hobbity Weirdos, obsessive fanatics, you name it, we have heard it and we see these names as compliments. In other words: don’t act like a troll, or we will distract you with our endless babble until the morning sun turns you to stone.


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Elen sila lumenn omentielvo, a star shines upon the hour of our meeting

Our story begins:

Fellowship of the Ring

PROLOGUE – Concerning Hobbits and other matters

We begin our story in the year 1401, according to the Shire reckoning, 59 years after Bilbo returns home from the adventure recounted in The Hobbit. Some history and events concerning hobbits and their habits are told in the Prologue. I think many would agree with my humble opinion that to fully adore our hobbits and their character, you cannot skip The Hobbit.

BOOK 1
Chapter I – A Long-Expected Party

When Mr. Bilbo Baggins of Bag End announced that he would shortly be celebrating his eleventy-first birthday with a party of special magnificence, there was much talk and excitement in Hobbiton.

Bilbo was very rich and very peculiar, and had been the wonder of the Shire for sixty years, ever since his remarkable disappearance and unexpected return. The riches he had brought back from his travels had now become a local legend, and it was popularly believed, whatever the old folk might say, that the Hill at Bag End was full of tunnels stuffed with treasure. And if that was not enough for fame, there was also his prolonged vigour to marvel at. Time wore on, but it seemed to have little effect on Mr. Baggins. At ninety he was much the same as at fifty. At ninety-nine they began to call him well-preserved; but unchanged would have been nearer the mark. There were some that shook their heads and thought this was too much of a good thing; it seemed unfair that anyone should possess (apparently) perpetual youth as well as (reputedly) inexhaustible wealth.

“It will have to be paid for,” they said. “It isn’t natural, and trouble will come of it!”…


1 posted on 02/15/2002 7:01:31 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: 2JedisMom;BibChr;Blue Eyes;Carolina;Carton253;curiouskiwi;Ecurbh;JenB;John Farson...
OK Gang…. I trust we have all done our first homework? If not - read up and report back! This is where we grab a blanket and a mug and settle into our chair. Who are these hobbits and what is Tolkien telling us about them in this first chapter?

Here are some Movie pictures - Chapter I

2 posted on 02/15/2002 7:02:21 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Whooo-hoo! We're ready for business!

I see the first chapter as providing background into the character of hobbits. They may be "tough as dragons in a pinch" but they don't like being put in pinches. They like getting proper meals and smoking pipeweed without Big Folk bothering them.

So when our heroes have to go on their adventure, we know that this is not the way things usually are for hobbits, and it makes what they do all the more impressive.

Also, this chapter is mostly light-hearted, but there are a few moments where the new, darker tone of the book creeps through, like when Bilbo doesn't want to give away the Ring. This is also to clue us in that there's something odd here, as readers of The Hobbit will find Bilbo's behavior very odd.

3 posted on 02/15/2002 7:07:10 AM PST by JenB
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To: HairOfTheDog
All right! Thanks for starting this!

OK, I'll stick in my two cents...one thing I've always loved about the first chapter is how it is, to pretty great extent, written from the hobbits' perspective. We really get a feel for how they like their comfort, their familiar country, and how by nature they dislike change and "adventure". It sets up the next part of the story, so that in a way, we are, like Gandalf, surprised at how quickly they can make up their minds and act when they really need to.

4 posted on 02/15/2002 7:13:35 AM PST by RosieCotton
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To: HairOfTheDog
Excellent! Would it be improper for the ladies to join the gents at the pub and indulge in a pint as well? If not, then count me in!
5 posted on 02/15/2002 7:14:21 AM PST by sneakers
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To: sneakers
Ladies welcome, in fact, we outnumber the gents!
6 posted on 02/15/2002 7:15:34 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Here is a very nice Map of the Shire

Here is where it came from

7 posted on 02/15/2002 7:16:52 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: sneakers
"It comes in pints??"
8 posted on 02/15/2002 7:18:39 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: *Tolkien
Indexing The Green Dragon Inn
9 posted on 02/15/2002 7:21:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
bump.
10 posted on 02/15/2002 7:22:07 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HairOfTheDog
another useful site

Most excellent idea! Who do I beg/badger/cajole to be put on a ping list, if one exists????

11 posted on 02/15/2002 7:22:33 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
Consider yourself "on the list"!
12 posted on 02/15/2002 7:24:43 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: sneakers
Would it be improper for the ladies to join the gents at the pub and indulge in a pint as well? If not, then count me in!

Me too, sneakers! I'm about half way through 'The Hobbit' having already read the trilogy and seen the movie twice. I'm going with my daughter again on Sunday; she's a Legolas fan and I'm partial to Boromir! We love all the stills from the movie; proof that the DVD is going to be AWESOME!

13 posted on 02/15/2002 7:26:48 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: HairOfTheDog
Me too! I admit, I am obsessed!
14 posted on 02/15/2002 7:28:17 AM PST by NewCenturions
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To: HairOfTheDog
Oops! I meant to ask that you add me to your ping list but I got over excited! (Aragorn & Legolas fan)
15 posted on 02/15/2002 7:29:23 AM PST by NewCenturions
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To: HairOfTheDog
Sir,

Nice idea. Count me in as a frequent visitor to the tavern.

I have always thought that this chapter served as the (necessary) transition from The Hobbit to LOTR. It has some of the feel of The Hobbit and of course traffics in familiar characters and places. It's very "hobbity."

The prose is a little deeper, however, and hints creep in quickly that despite all the fun, that this will be a darker tale.

But I suppose my Gaffer would say that's what comes of mixing in the affairs of your betters.

16 posted on 02/15/2002 7:29:36 AM PST by The Iguana
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To: HairOfTheDog
bump
17 posted on 02/15/2002 7:33:55 AM PST by billbears
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To: HairOfTheDog
Might I request an occasional ping also, madam?
18 posted on 02/15/2002 7:37:01 AM PST by sinclair
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To: HairOfTheDog
Please add me to your ping list.
19 posted on 02/15/2002 7:37:51 AM PST by Strider
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To: The Iguana
I agree...The Hobbit comes across as being fun, right off the bat and someone starting into FOTR might think it would continue along the same lines until they read the
"reports and complaints of strange persons and creatures prowling about the borders. . .the first sign that all was not quite as it should be." (Tolkien, Prologue FOTR)

20 posted on 02/15/2002 7:39:28 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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