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TWA Flight 800 - Someone Has Finally Talked!
WorldNetDaily ^ | January 31, 2002 | Reed Irvine

Posted on 01/31/2002 5:49:54 PM PST by VectoRama

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1 posted on 01/31/2002 5:49:54 PM PST by VectoRama
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To: VectoRama
Yeah, ha ha, an anonymous someone. Did he see Elvis too?
2 posted on 01/31/2002 5:54:34 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: VectoRama
Will the truth finally break out? I doubt it, but I sure wish it would.

The case of TWA 800 and the case of the recent plane crash in Flushing are entirely different. There is overwhelming evidence that TWA 800 was brought down by a missile. The evidence in last fall's disaster is unclear so far, and the witness testimony is conflicting and uncertain, to my mind at least.

Once the government covers something up, for whatever reason, it usually stays covered up, even under a new administration. But we can always hope. Clinton is such a scum. He has hundreds of crimes to answer for.

3 posted on 01/31/2002 5:58:59 PM PST by Cicero
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To: VectoRama
**Bump**
4 posted on 01/31/2002 5:59:19 PM PST by TwoStep
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To: jlogajan
In my opinion, Reed Irvine is a trustworthy source. If he says he talked to a submariner, I believe him. But whether this will go any further is another kettle of fish.
5 posted on 01/31/2002 6:00:21 PM PST by Cicero
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To: VectoRama
and that the FBI had checked all their torpedo tubes and all their missile silos to make sure they had all the missiles on board that they had when they left port.

Hmmm....how many aircraft have been shot down with torpedoes? For that matter, how many have been shot down with Tomahawks and Harpoons?

I'd like to hear what the submariners here think of the Navy fellow's terminology, and whether that's what they call being outside on the hull or on the sail.

6 posted on 01/31/2002 6:00:49 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: VectoRama
Paging _Jim. You can appologize to a large portion of the forum now.
7 posted on 01/31/2002 6:01:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: VectoRama
Thank God for Reed Irvine! Ya gotta love it!
8 posted on 01/31/2002 6:02:14 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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When Pierre Salinger, at a press conference in March 1997, declared that TWA Flight 800 had been shot down accidentally by a U.S. Navy missile, this former presidential press secretary, U.S. Senator and ABC News correspondent, was mercilessly attacked by his former colleagues.

Senator?????

9 posted on 01/31/2002 6:05:17 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: Michael Rivero; Plummz; aristeides
There is no doubt now.
10 posted on 01/31/2002 6:07:49 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Tennessee_Bob
I believe that the Navy now has an antiaircraft missile that can be launched from the torpedo tubes, so it is usable on existing subs. The subs need antiaircraft capabilities to take out an enemy ASW aircraft that might be hunting them.
11 posted on 01/31/2002 6:09:00 PM PST by Magician
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. If he says he talked to a submariner, I believe him

Yes but the Submariner was Monica and she went down on Bill no up on a plane.

Ross Perot has yet to admitt that great sucking sound was Monica in the oval office.

12 posted on 01/31/2002 6:13:42 PM PST by Common Tator
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What do you have to support this? If such a system did exist how practical would it be since there is no way for a submerged submarine to target the aircraft and if it surfaced or stuck up a mast with radar it would just give away it's position.
13 posted on 01/31/2002 6:14:36 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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Submarines spend almost no time on the surface (they are actually faster completely submerged, for one thing) except when entering or exiting a shallow port.

There would be no reason for there to be THREE surfaced submarines in an "exercise" for example.

This all stinks on ice. WND give DEBKA a run for its money most days for pure unadulterated crap.

14 posted on 01/31/2002 6:19:26 PM PST by John H K
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Myself, I've always believed what Senator A; D'Amato said the night of the crash, and that was that it was brought down by a missile....Big Al never did know when to shut up.

But who's missile?... well at first I agreed with those who suspected a navy misfire...but post 9-11, and considering the WH occupant at the time, I'm open to the terrorist got lucky position.
15 posted on 01/31/2002 6:19:33 PM PST by wheezer
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Submarines don't carry surface-to-air missiles that I've ever heard of, nor do their targeting and fire-control systems even contemplate such a thing. They depend on submerging for their defense, not slugging it out on the surface. So, unless it was a surface ship that launched the missile, or the secret manuvers were to test some sort of new sub-based SAM (which would be a pretty big mod to a sub, and of questionable value IMO), this story doesn't make sense.

It's also pretty rare to step on the deck of a sub when it's out at sea. Unless you're doing something like launching/recovering a boat or the like. It would be useful to know what he was supposedly doing. Or did he mean he was up on the sail and the story just got the terminology wrong? Something else to contemplate.

16 posted on 01/31/2002 6:19:57 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: Magician
I believe that the Navy now has an antiaircraft missile that can be launched from the torpedo tubes, so it is usable on existing subs

I heard that years ago, they were talking about a mast mounted Stinger system for the Seawolf. I'd be interested in seeing any sources you have on this submarine mounted SAM system, especially range.

17 posted on 01/31/2002 6:20:55 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: VectoRama
reed irvine bump
18 posted on 01/31/2002 6:25:49 PM PST by Red Jones
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To: VectoRama
I am wondering about the logic of the source trying to remain a secret. I would imagine the Navy could pretty easily narrow it down with the information in this article. How many recently retired petty officers who served on submarines which were surfaced at the time of the crash and within a reasonable range to be a witness could there be?
19 posted on 01/31/2002 6:32:36 PM PST by sharktrager
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To: VectoRama
nothing to see here folks, move along, move along;
20 posted on 01/31/2002 6:33:22 PM PST by Red Jones
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