[Paul Ross]

Old news to some, but, surprising still to an majority of those who have let the now-outed Hard-Left media monopoly tell them what history is...

[hinckley buzzard]

One of the perpetrators of this hoax was--Surprise!- that great and sincere Christian, Billyboy himself, in a speech a few years ago.

I wouldn't begin to know how to dig it up (no doubt there's an ace here who could) but his assertion was that "Nazism was a perverted form of Christianity."

I suspect it was one of his vaunted posturings in which he appeared (to himself at least) to be dispensing the wisdom of caution against having any faith in the western Judeo-Christian ethic, just as when he equated us to the terrorists, because of the Crusades, at Georgetown not long ago.

Sick f*er fits right in with the great liars of history doesn't he?

[Ol' Sparky]

Hitler was hard-core evolutionist. He ordered creationism replaced in German public schools with evolutionary teachings and he and the Nazis practiced social Darwinism.

[headsonpikes]

Geez!!! Nobody ever shows up on Hitler's side on these threads, even though he has admirers.

Unless the ones linking Naziism to Christianity are secretly in Aryan drag. ;^)

[la$tminutepardon]

They need to read about people like Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a true Christian, who did all he could, along with others who were of the Confesing Church and who lost their lives to Hitler's thugs, some shot, others hanged with piano wire just weeks before the war was over.

[BenF]

I know why the thought of Hitler and the Nazis being Christians is enough to give today's Christians the fits. However, I wonder how far people will go with this thing. Just how much history will people rewrite? Not that Nazism = some form of Christianity...that's an outrageous charge. But...Christian anti-semitism is a historical fact, is it not? Didn't hatred of Jews, sanctified by various Churches and religious leaders, lay the groundwork for Nazism? Or did Nazism just spring forth despite centuries of Christian "love" and "tolerance" for the Jews?

[Doctor Doom]

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

"We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession."
-Adolf Hitler

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice....

"And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people....

"When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited. "
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech on 12 April 1922

"While we destroyed the Centre Party, we have not only brought thousands of priests back into the Church, but to millions of respectable people we have restored their faith in their religion and in their priests. The union of the Evangelical Church in a single Church for the whole Reich, the Concordat with the Catholic Church, these are but milestones on the road which leads to the establishment of a useful relation and a useful co operation between the Reich and the two Confessions."
-Adolf Hitler, in his New Year Message on 1 Jan. 1934

"This Winter Help Work is also in the deepest sense a Christian work. When I see, as I so often do, poorly clad girls collecting with such infinite patience in order to care for those who are suffering from the cold while they themselves are shivering with cold, then I have the feeling that they are all apostles of a Christianity-- and in truth of a Christianity which can say with greater right than any other: This is the Christianity of an honest confession, for behind it stand not words but deeds."
-Adolf Hitler, speaking of the Winter Help Campaign on 5 Oct. 1937

[Dec31,1999]

But it’s not Christianity that’s injected evil into the world. In fact, the worst massacres in history have been committed by atheists (Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot) and virtual pagans (Hitler). Christians have amassed their share of sins over the past 2,000 years, but the great murderers have been the church’s enemies, especially in the past century. It’s long past time to set the historical record straight.

Old-time bttt.

[Dec31,1999]

Bump. What do you think about this?

[aimhigh]

I just finished reading HITLER'S CROSS, by Erwin Lutzer. Hilter was a pagan, and was surrounded by pagans. He outlawed most Christian churches, and required allegience from all the rest. Einstein, an atheist, said,

"Being a lover of freedom, when the [Nazi] revolution came I looked to the universities to defend it, knowing they had always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but no, the universities were immediately silenced. Then I looked to the great editors o fthe newspapers, whose flaming editorials in days gone by had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced in a few short weeks.

Only the church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign for supressing the truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration for it because the church alone has had the courage and persistance to stand for intellectual and moral freedom. I am forced to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly."

[VOA]

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[SkyPilot]

The term "NAZI" came about (we are not exactly sure how) from the english translation of the german term for the party--

National Socialistic Democratic Workers Party

If that sounds like a leftist term, it is. NAZIism has been described (accurately) as Communism with a Nationalistic face. It's early motto in pre-war Germany was "Bread and Work."

From a historical perspective, Bolshevism and NAZIism were enemies, but I believe it was more from an "approach" to their goals of dictatorship, rather than common threads of purpose.

Both Communism and NAZIism are evil, anti-Christian, and totalitarian.

The left was confronted with such evil by NAZIism, it chose to call it "right-wing" in hopes of deflecting such terrible truths about itself. For a large part, they have been successful, aided by media and sympathizers. In the case of Stalinism, they simply ignored his murders and crimes, and then refused to apologize when the truth was known.

[VOA]

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[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Nazism was actually a weird amalgamation of a variety of bizarre racist and occult theories. The gnostic occultism developed by Hitler, Himmler, Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Alfred Rosenberg, Dietrich Eckhart and numerous others combined Norse mythology with Wagner's operas, Aryan race theories, and other streams of 19th-century European occultism. The popularity of Nietzsche among Nazis ought to be a clue as to their attitudes toward Christianity. Nazism extolled physical strength, brutality, cruelty, and models of eugenic social engineering entirely in conflict with Christianity. There is a great deal of published information available about the weird, occult origins of National Socialism's neo-pagan ideology and agenda. Michael Wood's documentary which has been shown on PBS being a case in point.

For what it's worth, the recent interest in this country in embryo harvesting, cloning, eugenics, and longevity studies has certain similarities with the earlier Frankensteinian monstrosity of the last century.

[patriot_wes]

"It’s not easy reading, but it’s an enlightening tale of how the Nazis — faced with a country where the overwhelming majority considered themselves Christians — built their power while plotting to undermine and eradicate the churches, and the people’s faith."

Exactly what leftists in the public (governtment) school system are trying to do today.

[rockfish59]

a description from the book 'auschwitz' by miklos nyiszli
(jewish doctor who was forced to work with mengele)

mengele saw a father and son in the camp who both walked with a limp.
he ordered them killed and the skeletons removed so that he could study the bones.
nyiszli had the bodies put in a vat of boiling water to make removing of the flesh easier.
when some of the starving workers came upon it they couldn't help themselves and in a frenzy were grabbing the meat and eating it. i believe the guards had to beat them away from it.
nyiszli didn't have the heart to tell them what it was.
he and his wife and daughter survived the camp.

now, any comments on 'witch burnings'?

[ZULU]

Hitler, originally a Catholic, adopted neo-Teutonic Paganism as his religion. Jews were not the only people on his hit list which also included Christians of various types, Gypsies, homosexuals, Masons, in short, anyone whose religious or political philosophies did not mesh with his own.

[Coleus]

bttt

[rexcurrydotnet]

Although the swastika was an ancient symbol, one of the reasons that it was chosen and/or maintained by the National Socialist German Workers' Party is because it resembles two "S" letters for "Socialism." Some critics make the absurd argument that during the 25 year existence of the horrid Party no Nazi noticed the "S" shapes nor attached any meaning (nor anyone in the SS Division). They also ignore the fact that the Party leader was an artist. see more graphic examples of the swastika myth debunked with posters from 1933-1945 at http://rexcurry.net/socialism-posters/posters2.html and with pre-1933 National Socialist posters at http://rexcurry.net/socialist-propaganda/posters1.html see the swastika myth debunked with German medals at http://rexcurry.net/socialism/germany.html and http://rexcurry.net/swastikacross.html and with flags & banners at http://rexcurry.net/swastikaflags.html

Three terms sum up popular myths: “Swastika” and “Nazi” and “Roman Salute.” RexCurry.net exposed all three.

The "Roman salute" myth holds that the Nazi salute was from ancient Rome. The myth was refuted by the historic discovery that the salute of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis) came from a national socialist in the USA who used a straight-arm salute as part of the original pledge of allegiance. http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html

The pledge of allegiance was written by a self-proclaimed National Socialist in the USA in 1892 (Francis Bellamy) who promoted "military socialism" and operated the "Nationalist" magazine and spread the straight-arm salute via kids in schools, three decades before the Nazis adopted similar behavior.

RexCurry.net also exposed the “Nazi” myth, that Nazis hate socialists. The word “Nazi” hides the actual name of the horrid party: the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. The practice is so widespread that most people who use the word “Nazi” are ignorant of what the abbreviation abbreviates and why it ties into the pledge of allegiance and to earlier National Socialists in the USA. http://rexcurry.net/mediacover.html
and http://rexcurry.net/swastikamedia.html
and http://rexcurry.net/swastikaweb.html

Nazis always referred to themselves as "National Socialists" and never as "Nazis" and they always used the word "hakenkreuz" and not "swastika."

The "Swastika myth" is that the symbol of the Nazis was a swastika, and used as their "good luck" sign, or reversed for "evil." The use of the word "swastika" coincides with "Nazi" to hide the symbol's meaning for the horrid Party: Socialism and the socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part): 62 million dead under the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; 35 million under the Peoples' Republic of China; 21 million under the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Today, most people would never make the connection between the swastika's "S" shapes and "socialism" because most people do not know that the Nazis were the National Socialist German Workers' Party. http://rexcurry.net/swastikaweb.html

The trio of myths are examples of astounding historical facts that were deliberately shoved down Orwell's "memory hole."