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The Cross vs. the Swastika
Boundless ^ | 1/26/02 | Matt Kaufman

Posted on 01/26/2002 1:14:46 PM PST by Paul Ross

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To: bookie
I have never said that the idea of God creating the universe is silly. I'm a theistic evolutionist, for cryin' out loud.
621 posted on 03/13/2003 10:53:37 AM PST by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: Junior
I tried to find the post where you said that all the creationists will have to answer to God for ignoring all this evolutionist "evidence". I couldn't find it. I also couldn't find the one (I think they are the same) where you said that God has nothing to do with evolution. Did someone delete these or did I just miss them?

Okay, maybe the word "silly" was offensive. Sorry. I probably should have said you think the idea that God created the universe is absurd. Isn't it true that you think creationists are ignoring evidence and believing in a theory that has no evidence, and isn't this absurd? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth. Not that the point is to prove that a certain belief is absurd but to help people get at the truth. Because believing in a lie is absurd, so we want to know the truth. And truth is reality. I thought that's what we were debating over and trying to prove.

You stated that you are a theistic evoutionist. We've discussed the evolutionist part and I'm pretty sure I know what the theistic part means. For clarification, do you use it to mean that you believe in a God, or that you believe in THE God of the Bible?

Please reply to just the latter paragraph, okay?

I enjoy debating. I don't really expect you to change your belief in evolution (although I hope you will someday) but this is good practice in being able to defend a worldview. I'm not just talking about me, so don't jump up and say I can't defend a worldview. That's not the point (even if you think I can't!)
622 posted on 03/15/2003 8:42:28 AM PST by bookie
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To: Paul Ross

bttt


623 posted on 10/13/2004 7:34:02 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Paul Ross

Although the swastika was an ancient symbol, one of the reasons that it was chosen and/or maintained by the National Socialist German Workers' Party is because it resembles two "S" letters for "Socialism." Some critics make the absurd argument that during the 25 year existence of the horrid Party no Nazi noticed the "S" shapes nor attached any meaning (nor anyone in the SS Division). They also ignore the fact that the Party leader was an artist. see more graphic examples of the swastika myth debunked with posters from 1933-1945 at http://rexcurry.net/socialism-posters/posters2.html and with pre-1933 National Socialist posters at http://rexcurry.net/socialist-propaganda/posters1.html see the swastika myth debunked with German medals at http://rexcurry.net/socialism/germany.html and http://rexcurry.net/swastikacross.html and with flags & banners at http://rexcurry.net/swastikaflags.html

Three terms sum up popular myths: “Swastika” and “Nazi” and “Roman Salute.” RexCurry.net exposed all three.

The "Roman salute" myth holds that the Nazi salute was from ancient Rome. The myth was refuted by the historic discovery that the salute of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis) came from a national socialist in the USA who used a straight-arm salute as part of the original pledge of allegiance. http://rexcurry.net/pledgesalute.html

The pledge of allegiance was written by a self-proclaimed National Socialist in the USA in 1892 (Francis Bellamy) who promoted "military socialism" and operated the "Nationalist" magazine and spread the straight-arm salute via kids in schools, three decades before the Nazis adopted similar behavior.

RexCurry.net also exposed the “Nazi” myth, that Nazis hate socialists. The word “Nazi” hides the actual name of the horrid party: the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. The practice is so widespread that most people who use the word “Nazi” are ignorant of what the abbreviation abbreviates and why it ties into the pledge of allegiance and to earlier National Socialists in the USA. http://rexcurry.net/mediacover.html
and http://rexcurry.net/swastikamedia.html
and http://rexcurry.net/swastikaweb.html

Nazis always referred to themselves as "National Socialists" and never as "Nazis" and they always used the word "hakenkreuz" and not "swastika."

The "Swastika myth" is that the symbol of the Nazis was a swastika, and used as their "good luck" sign, or reversed for "evil." The use of the word "swastika" coincides with "Nazi" to hide the symbol's meaning for the horrid Party: Socialism and the socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part): 62 million dead under the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; 35 million under the Peoples' Republic of China; 21 million under the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Today, most people would never make the connection between the swastika's "S" shapes and "socialism" because most people do not know that the Nazis were the National Socialist German Workers' Party. http://rexcurry.net/swastikaweb.html

The trio of myths are examples of astounding historical facts that were deliberately shoved down Orwell's "memory hole."


624 posted on 04/07/2005 12:40:45 PM PDT by rexcurrydotnet (Swastika was intertwined "S" letters for "SOCIALISM" under German Natl Socialists)
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