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My Prediction: GOP change in House seats in 2002 is -8 to +14 (absent strong national trend)
January 19, 2002 | Torie

Posted on 01/19/2002 2:53:00 PM PST by Torie

I have been checking out the redistricting game in each state, and have come up with some overall numbers. At this point, I don't think absent surprising Court intervention that they will change much. It looks like the GOP has lost 5 seats from the safe column, but there are an additional 16 toss up seats arising from redistricting or retirement. I have come up with 6 quite vulnerable incumbents, 3 from each party. So, absent a clear national tide towards the Dems, if they win everything within reach, they will gain 8 seats and have a House majority of 2. The existing GOP margin is 7 (including Ralph Hall, who said he will vote of GOP control if his vote is needed). The net "expected" GOP gain is 3 seats. Their max gain is 14.

Michael Barone said he expects there to be 20 to 40 competitive seat this fall. I come up with 22 so far that I think will truly be competitive. One of the wonders of demographics and gerrymandering is that at this point, there are very, very few competitive districts indeed.

Here is the Chart:



			
	  GOP	  Tossup  Net Exp GOP Change
Arizona            1
Colorado	   1	
Conn	  -1	   1	
Florida	   2		
Georgia	  -2	   1	
Indiana	  -1	   1	
Iowa	  -1	   1	
Kansas		   1	
Maryland  -2	   1	
Michigan   2		
Minnosota   	   1	
Miss  	  -1	   1	
Nevada		   1	
New Hamp  -1	   1	
New Mex	  -1	   1	
New York  -1		
NC	  -1  	   1	
Okla	  -1		
Penn	   2		
Tenn	  -1	   1	
Texas	   2	   1	
Utah	   1	
	
Totals	  -5	   16	     3 (16/2 - 5)

Incumbents

          GOP	   Dem	
Larson		    1	
Simmons	   1		
Hostettler 1		
Baldwin		    1	
Israel		    1	
Capito	   1		     0
Any corrections or comments are of course welcome. I may have missed some stuff. And Florida is still a bit of a guess.


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1 posted on 01/19/2002 2:53:00 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Thanks for the hard work!
I love seeing someone with the guts to go out on a limb at this early date!
2 posted on 01/19/2002 4:55:14 PM PST by BigWest
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You think Hostettler is going to win again? I haven't heard much lately outside that he picks up Terre Haute, loses a GOP area, and on the good side loses Bloomington.
3 posted on 01/19/2002 5:01:29 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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Larson

That's a tough one to call there. That used to be solid dem, then one of the most conservative GOP members, Coburn won there three times. I believe it's very social conservative, but economically liberal. I'd say it's Macomb County on Sterioids. My guess is that if he votes fairly conservative in social issues and if nothing else, stays away on guns and abortion, he wins.

I'd add another incumbent in trouble - Matheson in Utah.

4 posted on 01/19/2002 5:08:33 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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What is the average loss of seats for the party holding the White House in off-year elections over the past 30 years?

I expect the GOP to lose more than the average number due to the fallout of the 2000 election debacle combined with lackluster growth in GDP. The natural tendency of voters to go for more nanny-state largess during anxious economic times combined with international insecurity will result in a larger than average loss for the party in power.

Thus I expect a loss of 20 seats in the House and 4 seats in the Senate, creating divided government and ironically increasing the prospects for Bush's re-election in 2004. shs galveston tx

5 posted on 01/19/2002 5:20:47 PM PST by muleboy
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To: Dan from Michigan
Larson (actually it is spelled "Larsen" I see) represents a suburban Seattle district, won by 4% last time, and his new district is about a percentage point more GOP. He has the edge, but it will be highly competitive.
6 posted on 01/19/2002 5:45:45 PM PST by Torie
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Different guy. I was thinking Tulsa Okalhoma. Ewing is the guy's name.
7 posted on 01/19/2002 5:46:55 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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It wasn't Ewing. Ewing lost. Brad CARSON is the guy I was thinking of. I confused Larson and Carson.
8 posted on 01/19/2002 5:49:30 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
Hostettler won by 8% last time (6% the time before), and his district is now about 2% more Democrat. So he has the edge.
9 posted on 01/19/2002 5:50:08 PM PST by Torie
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Thus I expect a loss of 20 seats in the House

Given the small number of competitive seats, that would represent a considerable Democrat tide, of the type we have not seen in quite awhile. Historical numbers are meaningless in this gerrymandered and highly partisan era. They are fewer swing voters than there have been in some time. Plus, the partisan perferences go down ballot far more than they used to. Voting for a guy of the other party locally because he is a nice guy is done far less now.

10 posted on 01/19/2002 5:53:14 PM PST by Torie
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Carson is not a competitive seat. The GOP loss is the Watson seat that is out in redistricting.
11 posted on 01/19/2002 5:54:56 PM PST by Torie
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To: Dan from Michigan
Matheson in Utah.

I counted him as a redistricting casualty. His body shows up next to Utah as GOP +1.

12 posted on 01/19/2002 5:56:11 PM PST by Torie
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I have now studied the Florida map that just came out that is sponsored by the state senate GOP. They went after Thurman, and blew her away, so it is GOP +3, rather than +2, if the map holds. It is really quite a work of art - a most skillful gerrymander indeed. Clay Shaw was shored up nicely, although if he were not the incumbent, it would be an even steven district. Gore carried it by about 9% (Jeb Bush carried it by 4% in 1998), but that is far better than the 19% Gore carried his old district.
13 posted on 01/19/2002 6:02:54 PM PST by Torie
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To: muleboy
I expect the GOP to lose more than the average number due to the fallout of the 2000 election debacle combined with lackluster growth in GDP. The natural tendency of voters to go for more nanny-state largess during anxious economic times combined with international insecurity will result in a larger than average loss for the party in power.
The GOP wins for the very reasons you state the opposite result: 1) "the 2000 election debacle"; 2) "anxious economic times"; and 3) "international insecurity."

Since none of the above can be blamed upon the GOP (no matter how much the DNC tries), it all adds up to voter discontent with the status quo: the Democratic Party.

Bush has marvelously distanced himself from the above, but so has Hastert & Co. Since ain't nobody heard of Lott since May, the Dems can't run against him. Hate to dissapoint ya, but Dubya gets a mid-term gain in both houses.

14 posted on 01/19/2002 6:05:21 PM PST by nicollo
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"the Watson seat that is out in redistricting."

What is the Watson seat?

15 posted on 01/19/2002 6:05:39 PM PST by crasher
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To: Torie
What is your Texas Tossup?
16 posted on 01/19/2002 6:06:18 PM PST by deport
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To: Torie
I hope the GOP somehow manages to retain the House and gain the Senate. I disagree with your assertion that there are fewer swing voters now than in the past. I believe there are more now than before. However "independents" are less likely to vote, especially in off-year elections.

Thus the lower the turnout, the more pronounced the effects of GetOutTheVote efforts. The higher the turnout, the greater the prospects for the out-of-power party.

It is difficult to imagine that there will not be a strong national issue imprinting itself on this years election. The war and the economy will likely dominate the discussion.

17 posted on 01/19/2002 6:09:30 PM PST by muleboy
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To: deport
The Chet Edwards seat.
18 posted on 01/19/2002 6:09:46 PM PST by Torie
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To: muleboy
I believe there are more [competitive seats] now than before

Is this belief a leap of faith, or actually based on some hard data based on looking at the new maps?

19 posted on 01/19/2002 6:11:18 PM PST by Torie
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To: jwalsh07
FYI
20 posted on 01/19/2002 6:12:02 PM PST by Torie
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