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Death of Hispanic family reveals immigrant overcrowding
The News (Mexico City) ^ | January 12, 2002

Posted on 01/11/2002 11:00:51 PM PST by sarcasm

GAITHERSBURG, Maryland - The death of a Salvadoran family in a fire in Gaithersburg demonstrates the danger of many Hispanics' practice of illegally renting out basements and extra rooms without ensuring adequate safety measures.

Officials attribute this practice to economic and cultural factors, since many Latin American immigrants are used to sharing their homes with relatives.

On the other hand, many immigrants find it economical to rent a room at a low price given the high cost of houses and apartments.

These people also face dangers, as was the case for Israel Herrera, his wife, Alba, and their two small children, who died last weekend when a fire broke out in the basement of a Gaithersberg home that did not have the secondary exit required by law.

The owner of the property, Javier Argueta, has received criminal citations for failing to install smoke detectors and for renting out a sleeping area that did not have a secondary means of escape.

Argueta said he had allowed the sublet of the basement to help the Hispanic family living upstairs pay the $1,200-a-month rent.

The family living upstairs survived the fire.

"Many homeowners take advantage of the immigrants' situations and in their zeal to make money they fail to provide their renters with adequate living conditions," said Jose Ramos of the Center for Central American Resources (CARECEN) in Washington.

But, the community activist noted, the situation is complex, as many jobless or low-income Latinos are willing to accept these living conditions. In addition, many Hispanic families have bought expensive homes and rent out their basements, attics and extra rooms to help pay the mortgage.

The director of the Tenants and Workers Support Committee in Arlington, Virginia, Jon Liss, told The Washington Post that many Latinos prefer basements because they offer more privacy than smaller rooms upstairs.

It is not necessarily illegal for relatives or other people to share a home, but in some parts of the country limits are set as to how many people can live in a given amount of space.

Hispanic activists say that many recently arrived immigrants cannot obtain low-cost housing because of the long waiting lists for these facilities.


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1 posted on 01/11/2002 11:00:51 PM PST by sarcasm
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What a crock. The government wants to blame the homeowner when they know damned well the poor immigrants can't afford anything better than these types of accomodations. The government floods the nation with poor, then blames citizens for the problems it creates. This makes my blood boil!

The poor immigrants are endangered, abused and taken advantage of. The government knows this, but we've got to have that immigrant "slave" labor.

Hey government, if you're going to play the game, how about taking some of the responsibility for those who die. Quit blaming our problems on everyone else. Step up to the plate. You made this mess, now wallow in it!

2 posted on 01/11/2002 11:10:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: sarcasm
oh yes we are biased against the poor immigrants....
3 posted on 01/11/2002 11:11:16 PM PST by GeronL
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To: DoughtyOne

Median household income dropped between 1989 and 1998 in Queens, Brooklyn, Suffolk, Fairfield and many other counties across the nation that experienced a large influx of immigrants, according to new census data.

The data indicate that even as the economy in the New York region and the nation rebounded after the recession of the early 90's, figures for median household income, adjusted for inflation, failed to climb in many counties because of the increase in low-income immigrant workers.

The new data show that in Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx — counties with a major increase of immigrants — median income fell sharply. More surprising, though, was the marked income drop in some of the region's wealthiest suburbs, including Nassau, Suffolk and Westchester Counties in New York and Fairfield County in Connecticut.

"Immigrants are jumping immediately into these inner-ring suburbs, which is a change from the past 300 years, when the first generation lived in inner-city neighborhoods," said Robert D. Yaro, executive director of the Regional Plan Association, a civic group that works to improve the economy of the New York region. "This new phenomenon is reducing household incomes in some of the well-to-do suburbs as immigrants move into Bridgeport, Stamford and Norwalk. It's consistent with the national phenomenon of the suburbanization of poverty."


The new data show that median income also fell in many counties in other states attractive to immigrants, including Los Angeles County and Miami-Dade County.

In Queens, according to the data, the median household income fell to $36,480 in 1998 from $44,938 in 1989, a drop of nearly 19 percent, while in Brooklyn it fell by 18 percent, to $27,556 from $33,762.

In Los Angeles County, where there has been a surge of immigrants from Mexico, median income fell in constant dollars to $37,655 in 1998 from $45,962, a decline of 18 percent, according to the census data.

Andrew A. Beveridge, a professor of sociology at Queens College, prepared the analysis that compared the Census Bureau's median income estimates for 1989 and 1998.

Many economists view the median as the best figure for assessing income trends since half the incomes are above it and half below.

Several economists and sociologists, however, argued that the new census data exaggerated the income drop from 1989 to 1998. They said that although median household income might have fallen in many counties, it did not fall as much as the new data suggested.

These economists questioned the new computer model developed by the Census Bureau, and they noted that there was a higher margin of error in analyzing small areas like counties. In addition, critics argued that the way inflation was adjusted might have exaggerated the drop in median income.

Stephen Kagann, chief economist for Gov. George E. Pataki, said the estimated declines were not credible.

"They use an inappropriate starting point, 1989, which was a cyclical peak, thereby ignoring the deep recession that occurred afterwards," Mr. Kagann said. "And they use an inappropriate inflation adjustment that overestimates inflation and thereby underestimates the growth in income."

He said that if the analysis had taken 1993 as its starting point, when New York's economy was near the bottom, the study would have shown a 7.9 percent increase in median household income statewide.

Jared Bernstein, an economist with the liberal Economic Policy Institute, also said that the new census data painted too gloomy a picture. Pointing to another census study, from last March, he noted that median household income for New York State dropped by 7 percent from 1989 to 1998. He added that a 5 percent increase in income in the two boom years, 1999 and 2000, meant a decline of just 2 percent from 1989 to 2000.

Still, he saw economic problems in the state. "In New York, you've had an amplified version of the expanded income gap we've seen nationally," he said. "Folks in the high end — in law, high tech, financial markets — were in a good place to ride the boom. Meanwhile, the huge supply of low-wage workers who were serving these upper-end workers during the boom didn't do nearly as well."

Mr. Beveridge's analysis estimated that median income in Nassau County fell by 14 percent ($61,096 in 1998 from $71,202 in 1989), 16 percent in Suffolk ($54,008 from $64,580), 11 percent in Westchester ($56,865 from $63,629), 12 percent in Fairfield ($57,389 from 65,583), 12 percent in Hudson County ($35,743 from $40,641), 17 percent in Passaic County ($40,923 from $49,421) and by 10 percent in Essex County ($40,595 from $45,375).

While critics derided the numbers, Mr. Beveridge defended them, saying the arrival of immigrants in Bridgeport, Yonkers, Paterson, Hempstead and other communities could have caused a double-digit decrease in income.

In the preponderance of counties nationwide, median household income rose from 1989 to 1998. The counties with declines were often in metropolitan areas with the greatest surges in immigration, including New York, Miami, Los Angeles, San Diego and Washington.

Roger Waldinger, an immigration expert at the University of California at Los Angeles, said the decline in household income could have been fueled by factors having nothing to do with immigration, like the increase in one-member and single- parent households.

Economists have pointed to other reasons for stagnant or declining incomes, including pressure from import competition, the declining power of labor unions, automation that pushes workers out of jobs and poor schools that churn out students who lack job skills.

Dr. Waldinger has conducted studies showing that in many communities, immigration affects income levels and the gap between rich and poor. He said income levels were dragged down by unemployment, not immigrants, who he said usually worked long hours. But many economists say limited skills and inadequate English relegated many immigrants to low-paying jobs

4 posted on 01/11/2002 11:16:33 PM PST by sarcasm
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Don't worry, Bush will buy them all new homes before his term is up.
5 posted on 01/11/2002 11:16:39 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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Don't worry, Bush will buy them all new homes before his term is up.

LOL. Yes, that day is probably not far away.

6 posted on 01/11/2002 11:22:48 PM PST by WRhine
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Even when the figures show the ill effects of rampant illegal immigration, nothing is done. The facts are simply denied. This is so frustrating.
7 posted on 01/11/2002 11:23:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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...with a four car garage and a pool. Aw come on, you don't mind your tax dollars helping the poor innocent victims of third world poverty do you?
8 posted on 01/11/2002 11:24:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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Hey government, if you're going to play the game, how about taking some of the responsibility for those who die. Quit blaming our problems on everyone else. Step up to the plate. You made this mess, now wallow in it!

Regrettably that would be accountability....something our government isn't into anymore.

9 posted on 01/11/2002 11:25:14 PM PST by WRhine
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"But many economists say limited skills and inadequate English relegated many immigrants to low-paying jobs."

I'd think that a chain of English instruction businesses would do well. Reading, writing, and speaking the English language -- nothing else. Kids in the morning. Adults at night (second-language, and brush-ups for corporate types).

Immigrants need English help. Urban schoolkids (predominately poor blacks) need English help. And corporate types need refreshers so that memos, presentations, and other business correspondence don't make people notice 2nd grade mistakes.

10 posted on 01/11/2002 11:26:24 PM PST by toenail
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To: DoughtyOne
Every 4 car garage can house 3-6 families you know and the pool...
11 posted on 01/11/2002 11:26:41 PM PST by GeronL
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To: toenail
I'd think that a chain of English instruction businesses would do well. Reading, writing, and speaking the English language -- nothing else. Kids in the morning. Adults at night (second-language, and brush-ups for corporate types)

gret idea but who is going to pay for their classes? Government?......hhhhmmmm...

12 posted on 01/11/2002 11:27:52 PM PST by GeronL
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We'll just give out more food stamps and Section 8 housing vouchers - that'll solve the problem.
13 posted on 01/11/2002 11:28:47 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: GeronL
"gret idea but who is going to pay for their classes? Government?......hhhhmmmm..."

Private.

14 posted on 01/11/2002 11:30:08 PM PST by toenail
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Even when the figures show the ill effects of rampant illegal immigration, nothing is done. The facts are simply denied. This is so frustrating.

I don't know what series of events or tragedies it will take to stop this insanity. I hear ya.

15 posted on 01/11/2002 11:40:21 PM PST by WRhine
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I seriously doubt that there is enough private money available to provide English instruction to the current flood of immigrants.
16 posted on 01/11/2002 11:41:25 PM PST by sarcasm
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Tropical immigrants + winter + portable electric heaters = fires and death.
17 posted on 01/11/2002 11:43:37 PM PST by dennisw
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That's Guliani's New York City. The underbelly.
18 posted on 01/11/2002 11:46:35 PM PST by dennisw
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"I seriously doubt that there is enough private money available to provide English instruction to the current flood of immigrants."

As long as the requirement to read and speak basic English for naturalization is unenforced, there's probably not enough money. If I were a Spanish-speaking immigrant who needed to learn English for citizenship, I'd consider it a great investment and get the money.

20 posted on 01/11/2002 11:46:54 PM PST by toenail
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