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Ethanol industry could have negative side effects [No corn for cows and pigs]
Country Today ^ | 11-28-06

Posted on 11/28/2006 5:31:51 PM PST by SJackson

If something appears to be too good to be true, it often is.

Some people are saying that's the case with ethanol, which has been described by many in agriculture as the best thing to happen to the industry in 50 years. Ethanol promoters are saying the alternative fuel could replace oil purchased from volatile parts of the world and it could provide farmers with added value for the corn they produce on their farms.

There's no disputing those points, but the new technology could have some unpleasant side effects. An Iowa State University Extension livestock specialist was quoted in last week's edition of The Country Today as saying ethanol plants could cost some rural communities more jobs than they create if farmers switch their operations away from livestock and toward grain.

John Lawrence said in some communities, agricultural employment opportunities could decrease if corn that traditionally has been fed to livestock is transferred to ethanol plants. He said a 100-million-gallon-a-year ethanol plant that uses 37 million bushels of corn would employ 80 people, compared with 242 to 800 people who could be employed if that corn was fed to beef or hogs on livestock farms.

"If we trade the livestock industry for ethanol, we lose jobs in rural Iowa," Mr. Lawrence said. "I don't think that's fully understood."

The same certainly could be said for rural communities in Wisconsin, Minnesota and other Midwest states where ethanol is a hot commodity. Ethanol could be important to rural economic development, but only if the livestock industry remains vibrant.

Some officials say the key to making ethanol a positive for agriculture is keeping the investment local. At a "Future of Farming and Rural Life" forum in Platteville last month, former DATCP Secretary LaVerne Ausman said locally owned plants return 56 percent more to local communities than those owned by outside investors.

"There's an opportunity for wealth creation in rural communities with these plants," Mr. Ausman said.

At that same Platteville forum, Sarah Lloyd, a UW-Madison graduate student who lives near an existing ethanol plant near Friesland and a proposed facility near Cambria, said she's not so sure all ethanol plants provide economic benefits to farmers and community members.

Ms. Lloyd said farmers generally receive 7 to 10 cents a bushel more for their corn if they are within close proximity of an ethanol plant, and those who invest in the plant also make money. It also could be argued ethanol is responsible for the recent dramatic increase in the price of corn to all farmers.

Ms. Lloyd said the required investment in some plants makes it prohibitive for many community members to get involved.

"The minimum investment at some of these plants is $10,000," she said. "A 40-million-gallon ethanol plant is supposedly profiting between $13 million and $16 million a year. But how much of that wealth is getting back into the community?"

Mr. Ausman said the new ethanol plant near Wheeler is an example of one facility where a local community is receiving a substantial benefit. He said 518 local farmers and community members own the plant. If the plant makes money, the entire community benefits.

Ms. Lloyd and others have expressed concern venture capitalists and foreign investors will build ethanol plants or buy out the facilities that already are up and running.

It's a good bet that if Cargill or Archer Daniels Midland end up owning ethanol plants built in rural communities across the Upper Midwest, money made at those plants won't be going into rural residents' pockets. It will be going into the coffers of multi-national companies.

This is not to say ethanol is a bad thing for agriculture. It can be a good thing if it doesn't squeeze out the livestock industry and local ownership of ethanol plants is maintained.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
KEYWORDS: e85; energy; environment; ethanol; farming; opec; renewenergy
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Something tells me the meat packing industry will do just fine. Despite the previously predicted labor [illegal] shortages, I've been buying lettuce, tomatoes, cherrys and apples all fall. No shortages at all. My guess there are no hamburger shortages in our future.
1 posted on 11/28/2006 5:31:55 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
[No corn for cows and pigs]

Let them eat cake. We need to follow Brazil's lead and make ethanol a priority to help relieve foreign oil dependence.
2 posted on 11/28/2006 5:34:48 PM PST by HaveHadEnough
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To: SJackson

Shortage of corn could cause another civil war, the south needs their grits.


3 posted on 11/28/2006 5:35:37 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: SJackson
There's always wheat and barley. Out west we could never get much corn in or animal feed. We fattened out our 4-H animals on barley.

We even raised the barley. The target for the barley is Brew #1 or Brew # 2. That would go into beer. If it was not good enough for Brew then it was classified as Feed # 3 or Feed # 4. This depends on how plump the kernels are and how heavy it is versus volume.

Our wheat went to Minneapolis and the spaghetti industry. But again, if the weight was wrong or something not filled out, say a freeze in August, it would be graded as Feed # something and would end up as cow or pig feed.
4 posted on 11/28/2006 5:37:21 PM PST by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: SJackson

Well, the UN promotes a veggie "sustainable" lifestyle. And with less oil, too!


5 posted on 11/28/2006 5:37:58 PM PST by DBrow
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To: SJackson
Doh! Of course, supply of corn will drop cost of corn will increase as more ethanol factories come on line.

Corn growers will make out like bandits, though.

Ethanol is not the solution that many have promised.

And corn is not the best choice as a source of ethanol. Sugar cane is better. Of course, sugar cane doesn't grow well here in the US -- one of many issues with Ethanol as a fuel.
6 posted on 11/28/2006 5:38:09 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: SJackson

The farming industry will adjust as it always has.Livestock producers have been cutting labor pretty agressively for years with automation and computer assist.Case in point;one of the local guys just started production at his new state of the art hog barn.One man can raise 6000 animals start to finish.


7 posted on 11/28/2006 5:38:16 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: SJackson

Besides, the leftovers, what is left after they make ethanol, becomes feed.


8 posted on 11/28/2006 5:39:05 PM PST by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: SJackson

Sorry - it's all solar power (locked up in carbon) - so it doesn't matter if you burn your corn, or 100 million year old dead veggies. So.. if you want to burn today's food, instead of yesterdays refuse, have at it.


9 posted on 11/28/2006 5:39:52 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: SJackson

I KNEW it!!!!

Ethanol IS a Hindu/Muslim/PETA plot to destroy America!


10 posted on 11/28/2006 5:39:59 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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"It also could be argued ethanol is responsible for the recent dramatic increase in the price of corn to all farmers."

Sure, it could be argued, but arguing doesn't make it so. The facts are that a severe drought in the months of August and September resulted in lost crops and smaller yeilds. Ethanol did have an impact, but not nearly so much as good ol' Mother Nature.

11 posted on 11/28/2006 5:43:28 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: dhs12345
"Of course, sugar cane doesn't grow well here in the US --"

Grows real well in Louisiana.

12 posted on 11/28/2006 5:45:12 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Battle Axe

How much crack have you smoked today??


13 posted on 11/28/2006 5:45:35 PM PST by mmyers
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To: HaveHadEnough

BINGO.... LET'S MAKE ETHANOL FROM THE LAWN TRIMMINGS GENERATED BY ILLEGAL ALIENS....


14 posted on 11/28/2006 5:46:59 PM PST by pointsal (q)
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To: dynoman

I had a friend of mine back in college-when Carter was running for Pres, with "Fritz" Mondaleas veep-went to the train station in Huntingdon PA when Carter's campaign train was going through town-held up the following sign-

"Grits and Fritz give me the shi_s"


15 posted on 11/28/2006 5:47:26 PM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: ApplegateRanch

"I KNEW it!!!!

Ethanol IS a Hindu/Muslim/PETA plot to destroy America!"

AND what about the impact on beer production?!?!?!


16 posted on 11/28/2006 5:49:17 PM PST by CrazyIvan (If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
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To: SJackson

Maybe with the increased price of corn we could actually get rid of farm subsidies?


17 posted on 11/28/2006 5:49:26 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: SJackson
The feed value for livestock is reduced by ethanol processing. But over 80% of the corn's original feed value is retained and the mash is mixed and used as a feed supplement at the feedlots.

This is much ado about nothing. Don't rush out and buy pork belly futures just yet.
18 posted on 11/28/2006 5:50:52 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: SJackson

OH, no! Look out for "Big alcohol."


19 posted on 11/28/2006 5:51:43 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
How much sugar cane do you think we'd need to grow to completely replace gasoline (100%). You can scale it downward to 70%...60%...50% ethanol/gasoline.

Based on 2004 gasoline consumption, ~ 75% energy contained in ethanol versus gasoline....

Raw real estate required to replace gasoline 100% = square area the size of 3.5 Colorados. Doesn't include crop rotation, roads, lakes, rivers -- raw real estate.

Can look up the post, if you want me to.
20 posted on 11/28/2006 5:52:21 PM PST by dhs12345
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