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Using black America: The homosexual lobby's turn
WorldNetDaily ^ | June 18, 2004 | Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson

Posted on 06/17/2004 11:39:47 PM PDT by scripter

It has been recently claimed that America's denial of marriage rights to homosexuals is morally equivalent to and indistinguishable from America's previous denials of civil rights to blacks.

It should come as no surprise that the homosexual lobby has launched a campaign to use black America for its pernicious purpose of promoting same-sex "marriage." Blacks have proven time and again to be a useful tool in promoting the sick desires of black leaders, the Democratic Party and the elite white feminist movement (yes, most feminists are upper-class angry white women) – why shouldn't radical homosexuals continue the trend?

If we fail at this time to expose the homosexual movement and its malicious goals, then its agenda will carry the day. Thus, we must clarify what is at stake in its argument, and why it must be strongly opposed.

The homosexual lobby's argument goes like this:

Sexual orientation, like race, is a non-moral characteristic beyond one's control. Thus, there is no reason that homosexuals should be denied the right to marry since to do so would be to hold them responsible for something they are powerless to affect. The implication is that a homosexual's right to marry a person of the same sex is analogous to a black man's right to marry a white woman, or to a black's right to vote.

There are two major flaws in this argument that make for its complete undoing. First, marriage is not a right. As Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly has noted, marriage is a privilege, like a driver's license, granted at the pleasure of the state, contingent on certain criteria being met. Marriage is a legally sanctioned contract that promotes a state's interest in maintaining the traditional family as the fundamental institution of society and in providing the soundest possible framework for a committed and legitimate love and for the production and raising of children. If a relationship does not promote a state's legitimate interests, there is no reason a state should sanction it.

Homosexuality is not about love, it's not about family, and it's not about civil rights. It's about sex – and selfishness. It's about pleasure at the price of morality and dignity, with reckless disregard for the raising of the young and for the traditional family unit. In many cases, it's about imposing a perverse lifestyle on a society based on close adherence to traditional Judeo-Christian values.

Moreover, the claim that sexual orientation is analogous to race – and all the subsequent claims that denying marriage to homosexuals is equal to racism – is insulting, dangerous and indefensible. It's insulting because blacks endured hundreds of years of slavery, segregation, and legal inequality in this country before finally winning the fight for equal protection. Try as they may (and yes, some do), homosexuals can level no such claims – they have not been enslaved or forced to use separate water fountains or been consigned to inferior schooling.

The claim that homosexual conduct is legitimate since it is the consequence of an attribute (orientation) beyond one's control is also extremely dangerous. Underlying this claim is the notion that anything someone may have an orientation or a predilection towards, no matter how wicked (rape, torturing children) is by definition legitimate, simply by virtue of his having a predilection toward it.

Also implied in this claim is that no one has control over their actions – we're determined in who we are and what we do by our genetic makeup; there is no freedom of choice, and therefore no morality, no right and wrong. The suspension of moral judgment would serve to undermine all of law and all coherent society.

These facts also show the homosexual lobby's argument to be thoroughly indefensible. No one really believes that there is no such thing as moral freedom, that there is no right or wrong – it's impossible to live in this world without fundamental convictions on truth and falsehood. The homosexual lobby itself cannot really believe this nonsense.

These people know that if they can ride on the coattails of the civil-rights movement and use blacks – as others have done – then they too can win sanction for their perverse lifestyle and deal another blow to America's Judeo-Christian foundation. For the sake of our country, our values, and black America, we cannot let that happen.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; blacks; civilization; hedonism; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexualobby; homosexuals; insulting; jesseleepeterson; lustoftheflesh; moralrelativism; moralrelativist; prisoners; romans1; samesexmarriage; usingblackamerica; wagesofsin
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1 posted on 06/17/2004 11:39:48 PM PDT by scripter
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To: little jeremiah

Ping.


2 posted on 06/17/2004 11:40:07 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
Homosexuality is not about love, it's not about family, and it's not about civil rights. It's about sex – and selfishness.

That selfishness is responsible for many problems today.

3 posted on 06/17/2004 11:42:05 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
The claim that homosexual conduct is legitimate since it is the consequence of an attribute (orientation) beyond one's control is also extremely dangerous. Underlying this claim is the notion that anything someone may have an orientation or a predilection towards, no matter how wicked (rape, torturing children) is by definition legitimate, simply by virtue of his having a predilection toward it.

By definition, yes. Just wait long enough and we'll have different orientations screaming for legitimacy.

4 posted on 06/17/2004 11:44:49 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - A Really Good Summary of Why Two Homosexuals Wanting to "Marry" Each Other Has NOTHING To Do With Civil Rights.

And why comparing themselves to black people - interracial marrying - is a lie, and insulting to racial minorities everywhere.

I do take issue with this statement, though:

"No one really believes that there is no such thing as moral freedom, that there is no right or wrong – it's impossible to live in this world without fundamental convictions on truth and falsehood. The homosexual lobby itself cannot really believe this nonsense."

I think some of the homosexual radicals DO think there is no such thing as right and wrong, nor do some believe in moral freedom.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


6 posted on 06/18/2004 6:25:53 AM PDT by little jeremiah (http://www.mikegabbard.com - A REAL conservative running for US Congress.)
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To: scripter; Nateman; dbwz; Moonmad27; freekitty; OldFriend; CounterCounterCulture; Registered; ...

Oops sorry I posted this without doing a search...


7 posted on 06/18/2004 8:57:39 AM PDT by abigail2 (What would President Reagan have done?)
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To: scripter

Rev. JLP BTTT


8 posted on 06/18/2004 9:01:34 AM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
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To: abigail2

The leftists are tapeworm parasites. During the 1960s many black folks in the South fought for civil rights that they were not getting, and like any other newly liberated people, things like what next were asked? In came the liberals like a flood... they're the pits and will use anyone for their agenda till they're through with them. Throw them aside utterly half dead and move on.


9 posted on 06/18/2004 9:01:55 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

10 posted on 06/18/2004 9:02:29 AM PDT by mhking
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To: scripter

As the kids of today would say... "That is soooo gay."

(Imagine... all those years of trying to change their image by using the word "Gay" by the Homosexual groups, and the new generation has totally undone all that work bwaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha)


11 posted on 06/18/2004 9:13:24 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.)
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To: scripter; abigail2

Dennis Prager was talking yesterday about the need for an instruction manual for life. We all have that instruction manual, but for those who don't read it or believe in it, what case can be made against two men getting "married?" The people who were against blacks and whites getting married had no Biblical basis for their position. In fact, we see that people of different skin colors do get married in the Bible. But G-d says very clearly that homosexual sex is a sin. Some people are willing to accept the case that a child needs a mother and father, but many people think that doesn't matter. So what can you tell them? People who want to live without G-d's Instruction Manual ultimately make their decisions based on subjective happiness.


12 posted on 06/18/2004 9:19:26 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: All

Buy this guys book. He is great. I bought two copies myself.


13 posted on 06/18/2004 9:20:20 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: scripter

There is no moral equivalency here.

The cakeboy and sappho crowd are reaching and attempting to co-opt a mantle for political recognition gain and they should be rebuked.

Once again, paternalistic (superior in their mind) liberals are screwing over the same folks they pretend to help or identify with.


14 posted on 06/18/2004 9:25:40 AM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: scripter
(yes, most feminists are upper-class angry white women)

Most fembots are lesbos actually.

15 posted on 06/18/2004 9:26:34 AM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: scripter
Protect the family, Just Say No to Gay Marriage !

Half of all marriages end in divorce. One sixth of all children will live with only one parent at some time in their lives. Although children of divorce make up only one sixth of the child population, they account for 91% of child suicides, 78% of young offenders, 65% of teen pregnancies, 90% of runaways, and 71% of school dropouts. They make up 85% of children with behavioural problems, 75% of the occupants of chemical abuse centers, and 80% of the adolescents in psychiatric facilities.
16 posted on 06/18/2004 9:37:09 AM PDT by John Lenin ( I was such an ugly kid - When I played in the sandbox, the cat kept covering me up)
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To: scripter

Well written.


17 posted on 06/18/2004 10:20:01 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: scripter
Homosexuality is not about love, it's not about family, and it's not about civil rights. It's about sex – and selfishness.

I am fed up with these perverts and gender-benders advocacy for fudge packing down the Hershey highway. I cannot and will not (unlike Micheal Jackson) change my skin color. JLP is right there are several biblical passages that condemn homosexuality it used to be listed in the DSM 4 as a mental illness. But the liberals in the AMA had it changed. There are too many examples in history where this perversion ended a civilization. Anyone remember Caligula?

18 posted on 06/18/2004 11:01:59 AM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Black & white liberals practice intellectual apartheid when in comes to black conservatives!)
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To: abigail2

That's quite alright. While duplicate posts are something we probably want to avoid, this is worth repeating. I'm sure your post was read by some that didn't read this one.


19 posted on 06/18/2004 12:02:32 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Dennis Prager was talking yesterday about the need for an instruction manual for life.

Most folks have probably heard this before, but just in case...

The Bible is Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth

20 posted on 06/18/2004 12:09:36 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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