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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday -The M50 Ontos May 2, 2007
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Posted on 05/02/2007 8:14:47 AM PDT by alfa6

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To: archy

I’m posting this to you because I don’t know where else to post it. :^)

Does anyone know how I ping the Hoosier/Kentucky freepers to this?

May 2, 2007 Contact: Audra Levy
For Immediate Release (812) 436-4969
alevy@evansvillegis.com

History Channel to Evansville for LST D-Day Weekend

(EVANSVILLE, IN) – Mayor Jonathan Weinzapfel’s office has just received word that a crew from the History Channel will be in Evansville to cover LST Operation D-Day re-enactments on June 2nd and 3rd, 2007. The crew will also stay to videotape the LST on June 5th.

There will be two re-enactment battles per day at Marina Pointe, home of the LST. Each will have a different battle scenario. One of the battles will involve the LST 325 “Higgins” landing boats, which were the small craft used to land troops on the beach during D-Day. These same Higgins boats were used in the filming of the movie, “Flags of our Fathers”.

American and German re-enactors from all over the Midwest will re-enact what happened at Normandy on June 6, 1944, the greatest amphibious invasion in history. The U.S.S. LST 325 saw service during that invasion and made more than 40 trips between England and Normandy, France, during the summer of 1944.

After World War II, LST 325 was used in military operations in the Arctic and later transferred to the Greek Navy. When the ship was decommissioned in 2000, the U.S.S. LST Ship Memorial acquired the ship to preserve it and brought it to Evansville. LST 325 is the last navigable landing ship tank in service today.


41 posted on 05/03/2007 11:20:45 AM PDT by Samwise
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To: archy

Of course this is the same way the Sagger worked that the NVA were using against us. However the US Army told the South Vietnamese that the Sagger was heat seaking. As a result of this, the ARVN started throwing flares out when ever they saw the big black lauch cloud meaning a missile was on its way. They would also fire in the vacinity of the cloud since the control cable was only a few feet long meaning the gunner had to be nearby. As a result, the NVA gunner would have everybody shooting near him and as he looked through his sights, he would see several flares burning. “Which was his???” The counter measures worked for all the wrong reasons.


42 posted on 05/03/2007 11:32:50 AM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: U S Army EOD
I remember when they did that with the 2.75”. Also what is interesting is 66mm LAW and 2.75” is the same size. You can mate a LAW warhead on a 2.75” motor and it works just fine. This was done in 1972 during the Easter Offensive in Vietnam to give helicopters an anti-tank capability. It worked great.

It worked the other way around, too. In the late 1970s the Rhodesians took the warheads from 68mm Matra pod rockets, less needed since SAM-7s had made helo and light aircraft strikes a less one-sided deal, and fit them to tail booms to become the 76 Zulu rifle grenade. Launched with a blank round, they were a dandy first shot back when a patrol was ambushed.


43 posted on 05/03/2007 12:07:06 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: U S Army EOD
Of course this is the same way the Sagger worked that the NVA were using against us. However the US Army told the South Vietnamese that the Sagger was heat seaking. As a result of this, the ARVN started throwing flares out when ever they saw the big black lauch cloud meaning a missile was on its way. They would also fire in the vacinity of the cloud since the control cable was only a few feet long meaning the gunner had to be nearby. As a result, the NVA gunner would have everybody shooting near him and as he looked through his sights, he would see several flares burning. “Which was his???” The counter measures worked for all the wrong reasons.

White phosphorous smoke works well, too, as the missile flies through the smoke WP particles have a good chance of burning through the control wires, and anything that obscures the operators view of his missile is an improvement.

It's not just the NVA who used the Sagger, aka the 9M14M Malyutka, however.... and they make a very nice job of a BRDM armored car, as you might expect.

44 posted on 05/03/2007 12:49:26 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Samwise
I’m posting this to you because I don’t know where else to post it. :^) Does anyone know how I ping the Hoosier/Kentucky freepers to this?

I'll get it, Sam, thanks. RTI I'm about 55 miles north of there, so there's a middlin-fair chance I can get down that way for the festivities.

45 posted on 05/03/2007 12:51:15 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy

Of course any real man would run up and toss a mine with a burning fuse on the back of the tank to destroy it as in, “Men Against Tanks”.


46 posted on 05/03/2007 1:21:45 PM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: archy

Cool! If you do go, let me know.


47 posted on 05/03/2007 2:39:28 PM PDT by Samwise
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To: alfa6

I see those patches. I’m a capitalist so how much a piece?


48 posted on 05/03/2007 3:55:02 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: U S Army EOD; alfa6

Good idea. Sam says the crew is too exposed.

Nice thread alfa6, thanks. I’d hate to see one of those after me! I would like to have one in my yard though. :-)


49 posted on 05/03/2007 3:58:32 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: Samwise

I see archy’s going to take care of it. I imagine it would be posted to the Kentucky and Indiana pages.


50 posted on 05/03/2007 4:04:34 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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Are you folks near the fire?


51 posted on 05/03/2007 6:22:35 PM PDT by U S Army EOD
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I see archy’s going to take care of it. I imagine it would be posted to the Kentucky and Indiana pages.

I got it yesterday, posted to the IN and KY FReepers, with a link to Sam's post. Haven't seen anything on the local TV stations hereabouts [we're about halfway between Evansville and Terre Haute] about it yet, but I'll help spread the word.

Odd that they didn't ask us to drag out our WWII DUKW, one of two of the WWII amphibious vehicles operating in the area. But ours is still in WWII olive drab paint.


52 posted on 05/04/2007 11:16:10 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: U S Army EOD
Of course any real man would run up and toss a mine with a burning fuse on the back of the tank to destroy it as in, “Men Against Tanks”.

It worked reasonably well against early WWII tanks with a turret overhang [for room for the main gun to recoil] over the back deck. Later tanks that expanded the turret for room for radios, ammo stowage, etc were less vulnerable to the trick, though even the postwar M47 Patton had enough space to get a good-sized mine or satchel charge under it's rear.

I always thought the Finnish Winter War engineers trick of firing a few sniper rounds at a Soviet tank column and waiting for a patrol to be sent out after them, and then, as the enemy vehicles rolled out on the surface of the frozen-over lake, blowing the preset demo charges and sending them to the bottom was pretty neat. Then wait a few days for the lake to freeze over, and wait for another column run by guys who didn't know what happened to the last guys.

53 posted on 05/04/2007 11:25:51 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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Are you folks near the fire?

No, thankfully. It's just awful.

We are in sw Georgia. About 100 miles east of the big fire. I can't remember when last it rained. We need rain really bad and of course those in the east need it worse.

The big fire is near Waycross. Here is the incident cite

We are in Thomas County, between Thomasville and Ochlocknee off the beaten path. We are about 45 miles west of Valdosta, 45 miles north of Tallahassee FL.

54 posted on 05/05/2007 2:05:06 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: vox_PL

Thank you dear. We are fortunate that more lives weren’t lost. It’s good they had some warning.

It’s too bad about your crop loss. I imagine this will raise prices drastically, hurt the farmers, and hurt the economy of Poland as you’ll have to import some food.


56 posted on 05/06/2007 3:22:22 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: alfa6

Thats a reckless rifle!


57 posted on 11/06/2007 10:41:21 AM PST by rahbert
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