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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Lt. Col. Matt Louis Urban - Feb 11th, 2004
Various | FReeper Michael121

Posted on 02/10/2004 11:59:59 PM PST by SAMWolf

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To: Matthew Paul
I guess we all have our share of jerk politicians. Maybe we really do get the governments we deserve.
61 posted on 02/11/2004 10:50:48 AM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: SAMWolf
I'm sure that's true, the media is gonna make him sound like he won the war all by himself.

You mean he didn't? :)

I don't think this guy is gonna fool the overwhelming majority of veterans. It's all fake anyway, the idea that lots of veterans support F'ing Kerry. His "Veterans for Kerry" guy is another VVAW POS.

62 posted on 02/11/2004 10:51:29 AM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
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To: Matthew Paul
I guess we both have our regrettable politicians. Drunk while visiting the hallowed grounds of Katyn, that's so shameful and sad.
63 posted on 02/11/2004 11:30:36 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: All

Air Power
Tupolev Tu-2 'Bat'

The Tupolev TU-2 is one of the planes which are not well known, the first design of this plane began during the early years of WWII.Previously designed for the replacement of the PE-2 wich was built in great number, the TU-2 in fact never replace the PE-2.

The initial project was nammed ANT-58,and was a fast attack bomber, able to carry up to 2000kg of bomb at a speed over 500km/h

The plane design is quite simple, and his shape is very similar to the PE-2 for non trained eyes it's easy to confuse the two planes.

The TU-2 have near size of the PE-2 but is heavier 12800 kg in maximum charge against the 8000kg for the Pe-2.

It's a twin engine four seat bomber ,the fuselage have a very aérodynamic shape and the plane looks like more as a fighter than a bomber.

The design was so good that until the end of his career in the 60's no major modifications was introduced. The Tu-2 is one of the few planes to receive a NATO code , the TU-2 used by communist block was nammed " BAT "

Soon the plane was on duty she was very appreciated by the crew, fast, powerful and robust the plane was able to succed in most of the missions.

A ground attack variant was developped , with a 37mm gun, and a night fighter with radar equipment was also built.

The TU-6 latest development of the TU-2 was similar but have a bigger wing and bigger tail.

The TU-2 was yet in use during the Korean war between 1950 and 1953. China received 100 Tu-2 which stayed long years on duty.
Many Warsaw Pact country have use the TU-2 after 1945 , Poland was one of the greatest user of the TU-2

NOTE:My apologies for spelling/grammar, I pulled the info off a foreign website

Specifications:
Manufacturer: Tupolev
Function: Bomber
Crew: 4
Engines: Two ASh-82FNV, twin radial 14 cylinders with 1380kW each

Dimensions:
Wingspan: 18.86 m
Length: 13.8 m
Height: 4.55 m
Max weight: 11360 kg
Empty weight: 7474 kg

Performance :
Max speed: 550 kph
Ceiling: 9500 m
Range: 1400 km

Armaments:
2 x 20mm cannons
3 x 12.7mm MG
4000kg of bombs






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64 posted on 02/11/2004 11:40:49 AM PST by Johnny Gage (God Bless our Firefighters, our Police, our EMS responders, and most of all, our Veterans)
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To: SAMWolf

Naked Gun... a great funny movie.

I am always amazed at how well Leslie Nielsen could keep a straight face when making all those jokes.

65 posted on 02/11/2004 11:45:42 AM PST by Johnny Gage (God Bless our Firefighters, our Police, our EMS responders, and most of all, our Veterans)
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To: Johnny Gage
Excellent choice as always. :-)


66 posted on 02/11/2004 11:54:09 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: colorado tanker
Well maybe not the whole war but he did clean out the Mekong Delta of VC. ;-)

I think there are more Vets against him than for him, just the Anti-Kerry Vets don't get press.
68 posted on 02/11/2004 12:08:39 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: snippy_about_it
That's worse than getting BJ's in the Oval Office and having a draft-dodger show up at Arlington.
69 posted on 02/11/2004 12:09:57 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: Johnny Gage
Thanks Johnny.

Learned about a new plane today. Not familiar with this one.


70 posted on 02/11/2004 12:16:38 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: Johnny Gage
He was good at playing Frank Drebin. The gags just kept right on coming.
71 posted on 02/11/2004 12:18:57 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: Matthew Paul
He sounds like your "Clinton".
72 posted on 02/11/2004 12:19:50 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: Matthew Paul; snippy_about_it; All
On November 11th, 2000 The Polish Community Center of Buffalo, Inc. was renamed for Lt. Col. Matt Urban, one of America's most decorated combat veterans. Lt. Col. Urban who grew up within doors of the center won 28 medals, including the Medal of Honor and the purple heart (6olc). He was wounded seven times during WWII. The Center is proud to continue serving the community bearing the name of a true American Hero.
74 posted on 02/11/2004 12:27:15 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: SAMWolf
Thanks Sam. I hope they get the stamp for him, at least then his name and history will be learned by more folks.
75 posted on 02/11/2004 12:31:36 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Matthew Paul
Completing a Final Mission for Matt Louis Urban:

Primus inter pares - First among equals -

Pierwszy pomiedzy rownymi

by Anthony J. Bajdek

Lieutenant Colonel Matt Louis Urban is one of them. Their number will perpetually remain the same: 434. They were, and a few still are, the American soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines who during World War II earned the U. S. Congressional Medal of Honor, America's highest honor for members of its Armed Forces, the only decoration given in recognition of conduct in battle above and beyond the call of duty.

A consideration of their harrowing combat accomplishments, as written in their Congressional Medal of Honor citations, is a humbling experience for any reader. I have read their citations. Better than one of every three of them had been killed in action, with the last being killed in action on June 8, 1945. The vast majority of them were ordinary Americans living in extraordinary times. They virtually represented all the enlisted ranks as well as the ranks of commissioned officers. They represented, from December 7, 1941, at the start of the War, through July 29, 1945 when the final Congressional Medal of Honor recipient earned his citation, the spectrum of American servicemen of different ethnicities and races, including Captain Audie Murphy who for many years was held to be America's most-decorated soldier of World War II.

At least nine of those Congressional Medal of Honor recipients had been Americans of Polish descent. There may be others with mothers of Polish ancestry, but their numbers are nearly impossible to determine, without extensive, painstaking research. Therefore, as I begin this article, I believe it worthwhile and fitting indeed to mention the names of the nine that we can identify, there origins, and CMH (i.e., Congressional Medal of Honor)-cited "fields of glory" because in not too many more years they will not be remembered collectively as the memory of World War II fades deeper and deeper into history:

- Sergeant Sylvester Antolak, U. S. Army, Company B, 15th Infantry, 3d Infantry Division, born in St. Clairsville, Ohio, killed in CMH-cited action on 24 May 1944 near Cisternia di Littoria, Italy.

- Private First Class John Dutko, U. S. Army, 3d Infantry Division, born in Dilltown, Pennsylvania, killed in CMH-cited action on 23 May 1944 near Ponte Rotto, Italy.

- Private First Class William J. Grabiarz, U. S. Army, Troop E, 5th Cavalry, 1st Cavalry Division, born in Buffalo, New York, killed in CMH-cited action on 23 February 1945 in Manila, Luzon, the Philippine Islands.

- Private First Class Anthony L. Krotiak, U. S. Army, Company I, 148th Infantry, 37th Infantry Division, born in Chicago, Illinois, killed in CHM- cited action on 8 May 1945 in Balete Pass, Luzon, the Philippine Islands.

- Private First Class Edward J. Moskala, U. S. Army, Company C, 383d Infantry, 96th Infantry Division, born in Chicago, Illinois, killed in CMH-cited action on 9 April 1945 on Kakazu Ridge, Okinawa, Ryukyu Islands.

- Sergeant Joseph J. Sadowski, U. S. Army, 37th Tank Battalion, 4th Armored Division, born in Perth Amboy, New Jersey, killed in CMH-cited action on 14 September 1944 at Valhey, France.

- Second Lieutenant Joseph R. Sarnoski, U. S. Army Air Corps, 43d Bomber Group, born in Simpson, Pennsylvania, killed in CMH-cited action on 16 June 1943 over Buka Area, the Solomon Islands.

- Captain Matt Louis Urban, U. S. Army, 2d Battalion, 60th Infantry Regiment, 9th Infantry Division, born in Buffalo, New York, survived seven separate CMH-cited combat actions on 14 June, 15 June, 25 July, 2 August, 15 August, and 3 September, 1944 in battles in Renouf, Orglandes, and St. LÛ, France and in Heer, Belgium.

- Private First Class Frank P. Witek, 1st Batallion, 9th Marines, 3d Marine Division, born in Derby, Connecticut, killed in CMH-cited action on 3 August, 1944 during the Battle of Finegayan at Guam, the Marianas Islands.

This article isn't about whether Matt Urban or Audie Murphy had earned the greater number of decorations in World War II. According to the Total Army Personnel Command in Alexandria, Virginia, Matt Urban, along with Audie Murphy, has the distinction of being the most decorated American combat soldier of the War. Both Urban and Murphy each received 29 decorations, including the Congressional Medal of Honor. Consult also the Arlington National Cemetery website on Matt Urban which confirms that his "exploits on WWII battlefields earned him as many citations as the legendary Audie Murphy, thereby making him one of America's most-decorated soldiers."

The flames of that controversy have been fueled by the fact that the 1989 Guinness Book of World Records identified Matt Urban as "The Most Combat-Decorated Soldier in American History" and in the June 11, 1984 issue of PEOPLE Weekly magazine, staff writer Michael Ryan stated in his An American Hero article that a "generation of Americans was taught that Audie Murphy - heroic soldier, Medal of Honor holder, later movie star - was the most decorated U. S. fighting man of World War II. That was true - until 1980, when former Lieutenant Colonel Matt Urban received a spate of honors - including his seventh Purple Heart, a Croix de Guerre, the Legion of Merit and the Congressional Medal of Honor - all of which had been lost in a bureaucratic shuffle at the end of the War. With 29 medals in 20 months, Urban is the most decorated soldier in U. S. history."

We supporters of Urban must be careful not to denigrate Captain Audie Murphy's outstanding CMH-cited exemplary heroism in one battle near Holtzwihr, France on January 26, 1945 in which he was wounded once. Neither should they decry the fact that the United States Postal Service issued, in the year 2000, a commemorative stamp that honored Audie Murphy as well as three other American combat heroes of World Wars I and II. After all, Postal Service regulations require a ten year period following the death of a potential honoree before issuing a commemorative stamp. Audie Murphy died in 1971. Matt Urban died in 1995, thereby making him eligible for a commemorative stamp in 2005.

Urban's story is truly remarkable even by standards established for the Congressional Medal of Honor in that he received the Congressional Medal of Honor not only because in exceeding the typical one or two displays of battlefield courage above and beyond the call of duty but also because, as stated in his Congressional Medal of Honor citation, he uniquely "distinguished himself by a series of bold, heroic actions, exemplified by singularly outstanding combat leadership, personal bravery, and tenacious devotion to duty, during the period from 14 June to 3 September 1944" in at least five separate battles at Renouf, Orglandes, and St. LÛ in France as well as at Heer, Belgium, during which he was wounded many times and for which he received seven Purple Hearts. PEOPLE Weekly reporter Michael Ryan, in the same article of June 11, 1984 noted above, corroborates the unusual quality of Urban's CMH-cited combat actions when he wrote that Matt Urban's "citation is unusual in that it mentions 10 separate acts of bravery that span practically the entire Normandy campaign." During that Normandy campaign, the Germans against whom he fought named then Captain Matt Louis Urban The Ghost because no matter how many times they thought they had killed him, he always came back to fight them again in another place.


First in the summer of 1998, then in the winter of 1999, and recently in the spring of 2001, American motion picture aficionados had the opportunity to view three nostalgic, thought-provoking hit motion pictures, Saving Private Ryan, The Thin Red Line, and Pearl Harbor, being the fictional stories of realistic World War II combat in the European and Pacific Theaters of (Military) Operations respectively. From now until the year 2005 (because United States Postal Service Regulations require a ten year passage of time from the year of the honoree's death before issuing a commemorative stamp), we Polish Americans should be obligated, in my opinion, to work to perpetuate the memory of Lieutenant Colonel Matt Louis Urban (shortened from Urbanowicz), a documented real, not fictional, American hero for the ages, by collecting signatures on petitions urging the United States Postal Service to issue a stamp in his honor in 2005. Friends, forget Rambo, the fictional product of some Hollywood writer's imagination, but teach your children and inform your friends and associates to always remember The Ghost, Matt Louis Urban, the real product of Polish American parents in Buffalo, NY, a high school star athlete, a college student at Cornell University who worked several part time jobs to pay for his tuition and living expenses, and an ROTC (Reserve Officers Training Corps) graduate from Cornell as well.

As far as I am concerned, the matter should not be delayed beyond that point given the fact that Matt Urban himself incredibly had to wait 35 years to receive his Congressional Medal of Honor because of the "bureaucratic shuffle" with his records in our federal government. Unintentional error though it was, it was an injustice to him and his family. It robbed him of national notoriety in the years immediately following the end of World War II when Hollywood film writers and producers would have jumped at the rights to his story as an "All-American" hero.

76 posted on 02/11/2004 12:32:52 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: SAMWolf
....who worked several part time jobs to pay for his tuition and living expenses, and an ROTC (Reserve Officers Training Corps) graduate from Cornell as well.

I'm a firm believer that too much is handed to children nowadays and it was never a bad thing to work your way through school and endure tough times. It makes for a better person and that person has a better chance of survival when times get tough, imo.

77 posted on 02/11/2004 12:43:29 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Matthew Paul
Don't feel bad, I didn't know about Col Urban until about two weeks ago.
79 posted on 02/11/2004 1:32:45 PM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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