Posted on 04/11/2007 11:11:59 PM PDT by FairOpinion
On Abortion: "Government should stay out of it... The ultimate decision must be made by the women... Government should treat its citizens as adults capable of making moral decisions on their own." -- Fred Thompson, July 1994
Are the Social Cons ignorant of Thompson's background?
Back in the early to mid-1990s, there was a raging battle in the Republican Party between the Moderates/Libertarians versus the Religious Right. On one side there was Ann Stone's Republicans For Choice, the Ripon Society, Log Cabin Clubs and the organization that I had founded in 1990 - the Republican Liberty Caucus. On the other side was the Religious Right.
Tennessee was right smack dab in the middle of it all.
The leader of the TN Anti-Religious Right forces at the time was Michael McCloskey.
During the same time, Fred Thompson was making noises of running for the US Senate. McCloskey was one of the ones who was influential in recruiting him to run. McCloskey saw him as a Celebrity counter-force to the Religious Right/Pro-Lifers that could win the GOP Nomination.
And the Religious Right, predictably came after Thompson. It was a bitterly fought primary. Thompson's opponent was Religious Rightist John Bakkes. In the end, Thompson's celebrity status carried him through, and he won with 62% to Bakkes's 37%. Many credited McCloskey and his "Young Republican brigades" with helping Thompson's win.
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Murphey:
Some conservatives got flustered by your comments on abortion and Roe vs. Wade. Would you like to explain your position on abortion?
Thompson:
Government should stay out of it. No public financing. The ultimate decision must be made by the women. Government should treat its citizens as adults capable of making moral decisions on their own.
You say you want to stop hillary, yet you are promoting a candidate with almost the same views, way to go.
Clinton/Giuliani ‘08 Because we all just Love New York.
Afraid of the truth?
This is HISTORICAL FACT:
The leader of the TN Anti-Religious Right forces at the time was Michael McCloskey.
During the same time, Fred Thompson was making noises of running for the US Senate. McCloskey was one of the ones who was influential in recruiting him to run. McCloskey saw him as a Celebrity counter-force to the Religious Right/Pro-Lifers that could win the GOP Nomination.
And the Religious Right, predictably came after Thompson. It was a bitterly fought primary. Thompson’s opponent was Religious Rightist John Bakkes. In the end, Thompson’s celebrity status carried him through, and he won with 62% to Bakkes’s 37%. Many credited McCloskey and his “Young Republican brigades” with helping Thompson’s win.
Not afraid of the truth. Just tired of the FUD from the rudy bots. The ones who have no standing trying to cry “he’s pro choice” considering their 100% NARAL rated candidate.
The truth:
- Fred Thompson was endorsed by a pro life group when he ran in 1994
- Fred Thompson has a solid pro life voting record in the senate
- Fred Thompson has a zero rating from NARAL
- Fred Thompson has said Roe V wade was bad law.
National Right to Life Committee on Fred Thompson:
“This morning, I cited reports being promoted by the pro-Romney blog Evangelicals for Mitt suggesting that Fred Thompson ran his two campaigns for Senate in Tennessee as a pro-choicer. Not so, National Right to Life executive co-director Darla St. Martin just told me.
St. Martin said that she went down to Tennessee in 1994 to speak with Thompson personally when he first ran for Senate, and that she determined he was against abortion.
‘I interviewed him and on all of the questions I asked him, he opposed abortion,’ St. Martin said. She told me that the group went on to support him in that election, and his record reinforced for her that their determination was correct.
‘He has a consistent voting record that is pro-life,’ she said.
On the NRLC website, they archive their congressional ratings back to 1997, so they include six of his eight years in the Senate. Thompson took the pro-life position on every vote he cast on the abortion issue…”
Source: American Spectator
“NARAL also rated nine other Republicans… Based on their abortion rights stance, the following Republicans received a grade of ‘F’: …Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee…”
PING !
“WALLACE: Would you like to overturn Roe. ...
THOMPSON: You said lightning round, now. If you want ...”
In other words he was waffling, didn’t say a categorical “YES”.
This has been posted at least 3 times today that I have seen, and it’s been posted many times over the last few weeks. is there a reason you need to post it againt? Haven’t you been on Free Republic to know how things are done, or is this an orchestrated campaign?
Do you really think you will win over Republicans using left wing tactics?
The Social Cons have never fully trusted Rudy Giuliani. All it took was one small misstep by Giuliani the other day on abortion, for them to bail. Now the Blogosphere is loaded with "Run Fred, Run!" articles and posts.
If I was shilling for Rudy, I'd cut that part, too. Can't have people thinking that when people learn Rudy's real views that they bail on him now can we?
If he decides to run, I personally, will be out on the streets for him. I'm tired of pushing the button for the lessor of two evils.
Rudybaby,LameCain, and Romus are all Rinos. I'm sick of them. You folks go ahead and support those who you think have a better chance. Me, I will support the most conservative candidate. Yes, I'll waste my vote - deal with it! I may even vote Constitution Party if need be.
Is this forum about supporting conservatism above party or NOT?
Your desperation emits an unpleasant smell.
At what time? Why have you redacted this important fact?
Must watch Video! Fred Thompson FL GOP 1998 Statesman of the Year
If you'd like to be a FRedHead let me or Howlin know.
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Your candidate is pro-abortion. You should be proud of that without spreading calculated deception.
It's the fresh talking point from the pro-abortion anti-gun Rudyphiles.
One supports conservatism when one defeats Democrats.
False.
One supports conservatism when one defeats LIBERALS.
Do you know anyone who is pro-abortion who wants to overturn Roe vs. Wade?
WALLACE: As we said, perhaps the main reason that people are talking about you is this uneasy feeling among conservatives that there is not one of their own, a true conservative, in the field.
So let's do a lightning round — quick questions, quick answers, a variety of issues — to see where Fred Thompson stands.
THOMPSON: Um hmm.
WALLACE: Abortion.
THOMPSON: Pro-life.
WALLACE: Would you like to overturn Roe. ...
THOMPSON: You said lightning round, now. If you want ...
WALLACE: Well, let's go.
THOMPSON: ... more, give me another question. I'll work through it.
WALLACE: Do you want to overturn Roe vs. Wade?
THOMPSON: I think Roe vs. Wade was bad law and bad medical science. And the way to address that is through good judges. I don't think the court ought to wake up one day and make new social policy for the country. It's contrary to what it's been the past 200 years.
We have a process in this country to do that. Judges shouldn't be doing that. That's what happened in that case. I think it was wrong.
You mean a Rudyphile pulled a Fred quote out of context?
That's unbelievably naive.
One doesn't support conservatism by voting third-party or staying home when your choice is between a RINO and a Democrat.
This happened in the midterms and you've got the Speaker Of The House traipsing off to Syria and threatening to go to Iran to meet with Mr. Israel-Has-No-Right-To-Exist. You've got a Democrat-contolled Congress threatening to cut off funding for the troops in Iraq. You've got leftists chairing every Committee in the House!
Grow Up!
If the GOP nominates a pro-abortion, pro-gun candidate, they willfully forfeit the conservative vote. It is their choice.
I think you mean anti-gun.
Of course. Thank you.
Not only out of context, but like our Dem Governor here in WI who struck letters and words out of the state budget, he completely changed the meaning and the intent.
CORRECTION:
If the GOP nominates a pro-abortion, gungrabbing candidate, they willfully forfeit the conservative vote. It is their choice.
That’s the “collateral damage” of vicious Ruditude: pointing out the actual conservatives in the race.
One doesn't support conservatism by voting third-party or staying home when your choice is between a RINO and a Democrat.
Actually, it's not naive. It's entirely logical. It's also "big-picture" oriented.
Voting a liberal into office on a Republican ticket basically destroys the conservative option for government. When voters no longer have a choice between conservative and liberal the entire political landscape will shift radically left.
In the long run, the damage will be significantly greater to the conservative movement AND the country then a temporary democrat majority or president.
I'm a conservative. I have voted for Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss, Alan Keyes, Phil Gramm and Johnny Isakson in general elections and primaries. I'm supporting Fred Thompson's candidacy (if he runs).
I will vote for Giuliani against any Democrat in the field, and so will many other conservatives.
Do you realize that this Democrat-controlled House and Senate have a vested interest in the United States Of America losing the War In Iraq?
Saw his interview with Cavudo yesterday, have to admit, this guy seems like a bit of a milquetoast.
Yes, I do. Try to understand what I'm saying about the long-term consequences of a liberal Republican party.
Oh, fer sure, I’m a Fred Head. Ping me all you like.
There’s only one thing that could make me change my mind.
If we lose the War In Iraq, it will be because the Democrats defunded it, betrayed the American people and their military branches and gave aid and comfort to the enemy by meeting with Fascists like Assad and The Ass Of Iran.
I am far more concerned with the long-term consequences of military defeat than I am with a four-year Giuliani presidency. Giuliani is wrong on many issues, but he's right on at least four: The War In Iraq, Support For Israel, Tax Cuts and The Budget. That will do for me in '08 if he's the nominee.
I think Fairopinion might have a mental problem... Or maybe he supports other Rudy positions; pro gay like Rudy, pro abortion like Rudy, anti gun like Rudy....
“when your choice is between a RINO and a Democrat”
A rino IS a democrat...
Thompson and Giuliani have the same position on homosexuals: both are against homosexual marriage, but tolerant of domestic partnerships. Read the FT interview on FoxNews.
This historical and factual article points out FT’s position on abortion. His voting record doesn’t negate it — he was always for early term abortion and against late term abortion.
Write back when you've actually given the subject some thought.
“Thompson and Giuliani have the same position on homosexuals:”
No, Rudy IS a homosexual.... He lived with them and he wears women’s underwear.
” Write back when you’ve actually given the subject some thought.”
OK, sounds like YOU might be one too...
RINOs vote for Alan Keyes in Presidential primaries?
RINOs help Newt Gingrich get elected?
Like I suggested, give it some thought.
You have my sincere apologies. I've been responding to you as though you are a person to be taken seriously.
“this guy seems like a bit of a milquetoast.”
He sure it — He rolled over for John Glenn during the hearings on illegal Chinese contributions to the Clintons, even though Thompson was the chairman of the committee.
“. I’ve been responding to you as though you are a person to be taken seriou”
What, are you from New York or San Fran?
What incredible wit. I bet you’ve got ‘em rolling in the aisles down at the Lodge Of The Mystic Order Of Nincompoops.
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