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Why I did voted Libertarian
Al Gutierrez

Posted on 10/31/2004 1:39:18 PM PST by alfons

This election is indeed very important. However, what this election is about is whether or not we wish to have limited government once and for all not just by paying lip service to that concept but by deed which the Republicans have abandoned totally. I came from Cuba in 1961. I came to this country seeking liberty. When I became an American citizen I took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution Of The United States. I took and still take that oath very seriously. I came to this contry where everyone is supposed to enjoy privacy. I came to this country where the powers of government are supposed to be limited by the Bill Of Rights. Unfortunately, our civil liberties are being eroded with certain portions of Patriot Act 1 Patriot Act 2. Admisnistrative subpoenas are being issued without any apparent judicial oversight as set forth in the Constitution of the U.S. Government spending has increased dramatically under the present adminsitration. Property rights have been eroded. Just look at some of those land grabs. The present adminsitration also has failed to veto a single bill from Congress concerning spending other than for the war effort. Sure, we got a tax cut. However, that cut has just about been eliminated with more government spending. Both Republicans & Democrats have become the parties of BIG GOVERNMENT. It seems that our representatives in Washington with the exception of Ron Paul and a few others,also indicate that they would protect the Constitution, but in reality they do not.

To me this is a time where we have to stand up for that which we believenot by mere words but by deeds. I took my oath of citizenship very seriously and will always do so. Voting for a Democrat or Republican for president is in my opinion compromising our principles. The reason why the Libertarian Party candidate for president is not so well known has to do with the Commission Of Presidential Debates which is a bipartisan dictatorship. The third parties have to have the right to participate in those debates. To me by they not being allowed to do so, goes against the First Ammendment. We cannot ask the big paternalistic government for our rights. We demand them as they were endowed by our Creator.

We need to standup and say with one clear voice, we demand our rights and we will exercise those natural rights. By voting for Michael Badnarik one will be sending out that clear and unequivocal message. I voted for Mr. badnarik and I am proud of having done so. I have absolutely no regrets. At the end of the day, I can sleep well at night, with the knowledge that I have lived up to that oath I took when I became an AMERICAN!.


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To: Commie Basher
So how about instead we simply stop creating new terrorists?

Yeah. It's our fault that there are terrorists, just like 9/11 was our fault, too, huh?

Putz.

21 posted on 10/31/2004 8:41:06 PM PST by sinkspur ("If you're always talking, I can't get in a word edge-wise." God Himself.)
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To: alfons

Because you did got yourself a President Kerry, maybe.

Idiot. Illiterate, too.


22 posted on 10/31/2004 9:11:38 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: alfons; Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; ...
I have absolutely no regrets.

You're in Florida. You voted for a fringe candidate that no one takes seriously and doesn't even have a snowball's chance in Florida of evn getting a single percentage point.

Will you still have "no regrets" if Kerry is elected?

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

23 posted on 10/31/2004 9:14:09 PM PST by mhking
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To: alfons

24 posted on 10/31/2004 9:23:22 PM PST by Sunshine55 (The W stands for WHOOPASS!)
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To: motife

Then you're not a Libertarian, but a libertarian.


26 posted on 10/31/2004 9:26:17 PM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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To: alfons
Why I did voted Libertarian

In other words, why you were a useful idiot for the left and essentially pissed away a vote for the viable conservative candidate?

I think I saw a guy get zotted not long ago for thinking along your lines. You "L"ibertarians need to wake up -- voting for Badnarik in this election puts the most liberal Senator in WDC one vote closer to the White House.

You're NOT making a statement by voting for Badnarik. You're just being clueless.

27 posted on 10/31/2004 9:56:47 PM PST by TBarnett34 (Can I get an UNNNGH?!)
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To: Commie Basher
Terrorists will fight us here even if we're there. So how about instead we simply stop creating new terrorists?

Name an attack on American soil since 9/11 and the beginning of the War on Terror.

I'm waiting.

28 posted on 10/31/2004 9:58:01 PM PST by TBarnett34 (Can I get an UNNNGH?!)
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To: alfons; mhking

We all need to follow our conscious. the overwhelming majority of people here, have various issues, but are primarily supporting President Bush as God's and man's person for a time such as this in the world.

It would be nice to have a forum for those of you with the ideals & mentality you shared. We are all happier with "our own". I can't help but think you are NOT happy at this forum. Rubs everywhere you turn.

You won't be changing your mind. I doubt you will change ours.

Glad you found a good, better life in the USA. When President Bush IS REELECTED, he wants to make your country of origin free..


29 posted on 11/01/2004 12:45:48 AM PST by DollyCali (BC04 LANDSIDE !!! " I'm George . Bush & I approve this message.")
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To: sinkspur

We're fighting two wars that are related

the war on terrorism
the war on liberalism

God help us with both.


30 posted on 11/01/2004 2:42:56 AM PST by gortklattu (check out thotline dot com)
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To: alfons

Good job @$$hole. Thanks for p!$$ing away your vote, moron.


31 posted on 11/01/2004 4:48:42 AM PST by UsnDadof8 (Get out there and vote)
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To: alfons
You're the one that has to live with the choice.
32 posted on 11/01/2004 5:21:21 AM PST by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: alfons

You're in Florida and you threw away a vote in a state that will be crucial for GW Bush. I don't think I've ever been mad at a Freeper but I am now.

You claim to have voted for an independent to protect constitutional rights--do you seriously think a President Kerry is going to protect constitutional rights? He's the one taking signs away from pro-life protesters, whose spokesman say things like "they better hope we don't win" to ... was it the Swifties? I can't remember.

This was a colossally stupid move, alfons.


33 posted on 11/01/2004 5:29:22 AM PST by proud American in Canada (To the "undecideds": Want some wood? Vote for GW November 2. You'll feel better.)
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To: alfons; .45MAN; mhking; ST.LOUIE1; Billie; dutchess; Aquamarine; Mama_Bear; The Mayor; backhoe; ...
At the end of the day, I can sleep well at night,

Hope you sleep well at night knowing you put us one vote closer to a sKerry presidency. Remember, he's the one who announced this weekend that "when" he is president, he will not consult with Tony Blair on matters of international importance, but will consult with his brothers in France and Germany.

Thanks for nothing.

34 posted on 11/01/2004 6:29:57 AM PST by dansangel (Vote like your life depends on it...because it does!)
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To: Commie Basher
Switzerland has no problem with terrorism despite its freedom and prosperity, because the Swiss don't mess in other nations' internal affairs

Committee of rendering assistance to Armenian political prisoners. Created by Armenians living in France. Has declared bloody war » on government of Switzerland, which, allegedly, acts on the party of Turkey. The headquarters is located in Paris.

Group Switzerland Recently created, the organization operates on territory of many countries of Europe. Has undertaken the esponsibility for 4 acts of terrorism, conducted on the territory of France, Italy and Greece. The exact data on composition, purposes and numbers of the above-stated grouping is not received. Group of June 9. Created in 1991 in Switzerland with the purpose of release of the terrorists of the Armenian nationality arrested in territory of the given state.

link

http://www.karabakh.org/?id=3071

Australia, Canada, France and Switzerland remain major centres for terrorist support activity. These countries, signatories to the U.N. Convention on the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism of 2000, are developing similar legislation.

Link

http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl1808/18080600.htm

A Swiss-held prisoner who stands accused of links to terrorist activities has appealed against his extradition to Spain.

The move comes one day after Switzerland opened its own investigation into Mohamed Achraf, who is suspected of masterminding an alleged plot to blow up the National Court in Madrid.

Link

http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105&sid=5289971

"I'm not a terrorist at all," insisted Mahdi. "Believe me, I'm not a terrorist."

But prosecutors said Mahdi belonged to an alleged terrorist-linked group, the Algerian Islamic League, run out of Switzerland by Mourad Dhina.

Link

http://archives.cnn.com/1999/US/12/24/border.arrest.02/

3 jan 2001

In Zurich, a bomb exploded outside the glass entrance doors to the office of El Al Airlines, causing damage to the doors, according to press reports. The Revolutionary Perspective claimed responsibility in a message faxed to the Associated Press.

link

http://library.nps.navy.mil/home/tgp/chrono2001.htm

You can stick your head in the sand all you want. the world is too small to pretend that the world out there will just leave us alone if we ignore it.

35 posted on 11/01/2004 6:33:08 AM PST by bad company (What exactly is the plan john?)
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To: alfons

Can I done get me a huntin' license up in here?


36 posted on 11/01/2004 6:48:19 AM PST by Thrusher (Laffer curve: decreasing tax rates increases tax revenue.)
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To: dansangel; alfons

What a maroon!


37 posted on 11/01/2004 6:51:51 AM PST by The Mayor (The fires of life will not destroy you if you're watered by the River of Life.)
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To: alfons
".......Why I did voted Libertarian........."

......and you wish for me to take the extra time out of my day to read your essay?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You should feel lucky that I've taken the time to write this disparagingly sarcastic reply:

Your grammar speaks volumes about yourself.

38 posted on 11/01/2004 6:58:24 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: alfons

Wow dude - you're my shining star!





/not


39 posted on 11/01/2004 1:35:54 PM PST by rockrr (I can't wait until sKerry is reduced to the level of a nuisance)
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To: alfons

Good for you that you voted your conscience.

As for me and my house, we're voting for Peroutka.


40 posted on 11/01/2004 7:56:43 PM PST by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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