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This body of skin will never rise. But the spiritual man that is now alive clothing us (2 Cor 5:4), after Christ returned,(1 Cor 15:51-56) will go to be with the Lord when this seed is planted (1 Cor 15:35-36).
The resurrection was one of the spirit body. Not the flesh (skin).

The dead flesh (skin) will never rise but Christ's did. Why? Because it could not be held by the pains of death due to His sinlessness and His nature (not of Adam's seed).

What is a "spirit body?" Does it have fingers, eyes, tongues? Is it a body, but without skin? (Yuck!) These are serious question, by the way. The Bible specifically speaks of these things, not as metaphores, belonging to people after death.

But, it doesn't really matter. God anticipated this absurd viewpoint. The resurrection of the body is a real fleshly, skin-and-all body.

Job 19:26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God.

By the way, "The dead flesh (skin) will never rise but Christ's did. Why? Because it could not be held by the pains of death due to His sinlessness and His nature (not of Adam's seed)." Now are you right or is the writer of Hebrews right?

Heb. 2:14-17 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Now Jesus either was born of the seed of Abraham (and therefore Adam) or He wasn't. He did have the same nature (and not that of angels) or he didn't. He either was made like us in all things or he wasn't.

I'll go with the writer of Hebrews.

Jesus had exactly the same kind of physical nature (flesh, blood, and skin) as we have, or the Bible is a big sham. If he had not had the same kind of physical body as us, he could not have died. That's what He inherited from Adam, just as we do, mortality. Sin is not ascribed to the physical body of flesh, blood, and skin anywhere in the Bible. Flesh is sometimes used metaphorically for a source of temptation that leads to sin, but the meat, and blood, and all organs are only things, and no "thing" is sin, only choices and actions are sin.

Hank

Now Jesus either was born of the seed of Abraham (and therefore Adam) or He wasn't. He did have the same nature (and not that of angels) or he didn't. He either was made like us in all things or he wasn't.

I would go with the writer of Hebrews, and Paul also, for you forget, the seed of Abraham is not a racial issue, but a faith one.

Ro 4:11 - He received circumcision as a sign or seal of the righteousness which he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. The purpose was to make him the father of all who believe without being circumcised and who thus have righteousness reckoned to them,
Ga 3:7 - So you see that it is men of faith who are the sons of Abraham.
Ga 3:8 - And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "In you shall all the nations be blessed."
16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, "And to offsprings," referring to many; but, referring to one, "And to your offspring," which is Christ. 17 This is what I mean: the law, which came four hundred and thirty years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18 For if the inheritance is by the law, it is no longer by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise. [faith]

You are confusing why Christ was a son. Not through Joseph (man) but by the Spirit. He was the "Seed" by faith!

You also must throw out this:

35 But some one will ask, "How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?" 36 You foolish man! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37 And what you sow is not the body which is to be, but a bare kernel, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain. 38 But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each kind of seed its own body.
50 I tell you this, brethren: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

Jesus had exactly the same kind of physical nature (flesh, blood, and skin) as we have, or the Bible is a big sham.

NO SIR!!
Your interpretations being against scripture (that I just posted you) is the SHAM!! The word of God is not.

Why must You guys always have things as you expect them or they are a "sham!'

"If His return isn't what of how I expect, then He was a sham."
"If we do not rise the way I want to, it is a sham"

Calling Christ and Paul liars is the sham. Christ said He was coming THEN, Paul said we must die to rise in new SPIRITUAL body. Read 1 Cor 15:35-57!!!

Instead of being childish, tell me what serious questions you want anwsers to so I can apologize and try to do my best with them.

What is a "spirit body?" Does it have fingers, eyes, tongues? Is it a body, but without skin? (Yuck!) These are serious question, by the way. The Bible specifically speaks of these things, not as metaphores, belonging to people after death.

One like Christ's I would imagine. One that probably walks through walls. One that materializes and then doesn't. But the difference between Christ's and ours, is His was the original body He was born with, reanimated.
Ours will not be. Ours will be revealed (or grown in a way) at our death.

15:35 But some one will ask, "How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?" 15:36 You foolish man! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 15:37 And what you sow is not the body which is to be, but a bare kernel, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain.

You can say my view is wrong, but Paul calls you foolish if you think that our roting flesh will be reanimated into a body like Christs.
No. We have recieved an alltogether new one (clothed with life 2 Cor 5:4) which will shed this old sinful one at death, like a seed!

Now, if he did not have the same kind of nature as is brethren, then He was not made like them in "all things."

Christ was born of Mary, in a HUMAN FLESH AND BONE BODY! Not from ADAMS seed, but Abrahams.
Aren't you a dispensationalist?
Adams covenant, the one that was broken to usher in sin, Christ did NOT partake of that sin nature or He would have been spiritually dead as we were. But He was born by the Holy Spirit.
Abrahams covenant, the one of the promise, the one of faith, the seed, Christ was Abrahams seed (Born through Mary).

As for the nonsense about Jesus being the seed of Abraham through "faith," does that mean Jesus was "born again" into family of Abraham like we are? And why would Jesus need to be born again?

No, it means He was born of Mary, not Joseph. He was born of the Holy Spirit, not Joseph. He was divine, not spiritually dead, as we. He was LIKE his brethren, but not of the sin nature, or He would have needed to be born again

I'm sorry if I have offended you. I believe you are sincere, and truly seeking the truth, but I fear that your heart has been moved from the simplicity that is in Christ. (2 Cor. 11:3) You do admit that you "system" is not exactly simple, and requires quite a bit of explanation, don't you? You have been doing a lot of explaining.

I appreciate the grace shown inn the remainder of your post.

I am not a scholar, not vey old, and not very complex in my mind. Once I came to the belief of Christ's return in AD 70. All this became very simple to me. I do not use study guides, notes or anything, but many of my friends who believe CHrist returned, as I do, agree on these principles without having to debate them. It seems to have a clarity of a message once we relized our place in the history of man. The redeemed of the ages, after the return.

May the Lord bless and keep you.
I hope we can continue discussions civily as I believe we have maintained so far.

Nate