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[Catholic Caucus] Top Synod cardinal says ‘females deacons’ are a ‘natural deepening of the Lord’s will’
LifeSite News ^ | March 22, 2024 | Michael Haynes

Posted on 03/23/2024 10:18:23 AM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Top Synod cardinal says ‘females deacons’ are a ‘natural deepening of the Lord’s will’

Cardinal Mario Grech, one of the two leading cardinals in charge of Pope Francis’ Synod on Synodality, endorsed so-called ‘female deacons’ and ‘a different space for women in the Church.’

VATICAN CITY (LifeSiteNews) — Cardinal Mario Grech, one of the two leading cardinals in charge of the Synod on Synodality, has appeared to contradict Catholic teaching, stating that “the female diaconate and a different space for women in the Church are a natural deepening of the Lord’s will.”

Speaking on the sidelines of meetings of the Swiss Catholic bishops, Cardinal Mario Grech gave his extensive thoughts on the current status of the multi-year Synod on Synodality, accentuating themes of forms of “equality” in the Church, while also speaking on “harmony” and “unity” in response to more difficult questions about the fallout following Fiducia Supplicans.

‘Female deacons’

Grech – who serves as secretary general of the General Secretariat of the Synod of Bishops – highlighted the new study groups that Pope Francis has established and that will study 10 themes from the synod. 

READ: New Synod documents reveal discussion themes for study groups formed by Pope Francis

This move, said Grech, showed how Francis is treating the Synod on Synodality differently than previous synods by effectively curtailing the discussion and giving the post-synod instruction to the Roman Curia before the synod has even finished. The cardinal explained: 

The synod for the first time is being held in two sessions. After the October 2023 assembly, all the points discussed were summarized in a summary report. What is new is that the Holy Father identified 10 themes in the same report and assigned them to inter-dicasterial groups asking for further responses. In the past the exhortation was always post-synodal, but in doing so Francis has once again shown that he is listening.

Grech described the pope’s selection of discussion themes for the new groups as dealing “with aspects of the life of the Church on the road, but also the relationship with the changing society.” 

As LifeSite has reported, the fifth discussion theme for the newly formed groups includes the subject of the role women in the Church and “a growth in the pastoral responsibilities entrusted to them in all areas of the life and mission of the Church.” It is this question that will encompass the “possible access of women to the diaconate,” drawing on the October 2023 Synthesis Report and the 2016 and 2020 commissions on so-called “female deacons.”

When asked about this in the interview, Grech shied away from using the term “revolution” to describe “the female diaconate.” Instead, he stated:

I don’t use terms like revolution. The female diaconate and a different space for women in the Church are a natural deepening of the Lord’s will, they express and demonstrate the dynamism inherent in the history of the Church.

With the issue of “female deacons” now officially tasked to one of the study groups, the topic is not officially due to be discussed at this October’s session of the Synod on Synodality.

However, key Synod members and the pope himself have continued to give signals that they are lobbying for “female deacons” during the October meetings or at least are open to such lobbying.

READ: Cardinal McElroy: Synod could end link between diaconate and priesthood to allow ‘female deacons’

San Diego’s Cardinal Robert McElroy revealed that the 2023 Synod meetings discussed ending the so-called “transitional diaconate” in order to more easily accommodate having “female deacons.” Both he and Chicago’s Cardinal Blase Cupich have vocally made representations in favor of such efforts, following the October 2023 meetings.

Additionally, in recent weeks Pope Francis appointed six consulters to the General Secretariat of the Synod, along whom are documented campaigners for female governance or “female deacons” in the Catholic Church. 

READ: Pope appoints female deacon advocates to Synod as October meetings confirmed

Catholic impossibility of ‘female deacons’

While arguments continue to be made in favor of “female deacons,” especially in conjunction with the Synod on Synodality, the Catholic Church has clearly pronounced the impossibility of them. The diaconate, as part of the sacrament of Holy Orders, is not possible to be opened to women.

In his 1994 apostolic letter Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, Pope John Paul II taught, “I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful.” 

READ: Pope appoints female deacon advocates to Synod as October meetings confirmed

In 2002, the Vatican’s International Theological Commission wrote after much study that:

  1. The deaconesses mentioned in the tradition of the ancient Church — as evidenced by the rite of institution and the functions they exercised — were not purely and simply equivalent to the deacons;
  2. The unity of the sacrament of Holy Orders, in the clear distinction between the ministries of the bishop and the priests on the one hand and the diaconal ministry on the other, is strongly underlined by ecclesial tradition, especially in the teaching of the Magisterium

In 2019, Cardinal Gerhard Müller, former prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), spoke with LifeSite’s Dr. Maike Hickson about the issue of female ordination, issuing a categorical clarification about the Catholic prohibition on the matter of women as priests or deacons:

It is certain without doubt, however, that this definitive decision from Pope John Paul II is indeed a dogma of the Faith of the Catholic Church and that this was of course the case already before this Pope defined this truth as contained in Revelation in the year 1994. The impossibility that a woman validly receives the Sacrament of Holy Orders in each of the three degrees is a truth contained in Revelation and it is thus infallibly confirmed by the Church’s Magisterium and presented as to be believed.

Some months prior to that, Cardinal Müller issued an intervention concerning the working document of the Amazon Synod, noting that “no synod – with or without the Pope – and also no ecumenical council, or the Pope alone, if he spoke ex cathedra, could make possible the ordination of women as bishop, priest, or deacon. They would stand in contradiction to the defined doctrine of the Church.”

Indeed, in 2018, the then-current prefect of the CDF, Cardinal Ladaria Ferrer, S.J., defended the teaching of Ordinatio Sacerdotalis as bearing the mark of “infallibility,” with John Paul II having “formally confirmed and made explicit, so as to remove all doubt, that which the Ordinary and Universal Magisterium has long considered throughout history as belonging to the deposit of faith.”


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1 posted on 03/23/2024 10:18:23 AM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 03/23/2024 10:19:05 AM PDT by ebb tide
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Swiss Bishop Eleganti warns ‘Synodalism’ is undermining the true nature of the Church
3 posted on 03/23/2024 10:21:09 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Martin Luther had the right idea.


4 posted on 03/23/2024 10:25:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████s████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: ebb tide

Confusing his own will with the Lord’s will is classic narcissism in clerics.


5 posted on 03/23/2024 10:34:57 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

[Catholic Caucus] Top Synod cardinal says ‘females deacons’ are a ‘natural deepening of the Lord’s will’

It is getting deep allright, better put on your boots!


6 posted on 03/23/2024 10:35:53 AM PDT by Saintgermain
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To: ebb tide

Here is what the Cardinal actually said, question and answer. Most browsers will translate. It speaks of the meaning of the synod, that it is NOT a theological meeting consisting of cardinals, bishops or of eggheads, or a rule making body, but, rather, a gathering of people (select or otherwise), among other ideas - some of which ebby finds fringe. It is not as inflammatory as ebby’s headline or his inferred conclusions:

https://www.cdt.ch/societa/chiesa-cattolica-quale-futuro-non-e-piu-il-tempo-delle-elite-346578


7 posted on 03/23/2024 11:02:55 AM PDT by Oystir
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To: Oystir

Once again, you don’t speak for me. You never have and never will.


8 posted on 03/23/2024 11:14:09 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

9 posted on 03/23/2024 11:18:43 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Oystir
In the late afternoon of Saturday 28 October 2023, the members of the XVI Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops adopted the following Synthesis Report (see below).

Some people, like Grech the Creep and oystir the foister, just don't understand the phrase, "Synod of Bishops".

10 posted on 03/23/2024 11:24:45 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

How does the Lord’s Will “deepen”? It is what it is always.


11 posted on 03/23/2024 11:55:08 AM PDT by TalBlack (I We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: ebb tide

The Lord’s will, as expressed by his actions, is that only men are called to the apostolate, of which the deacon is a member.


12 posted on 03/23/2024 1:27:23 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

[Catholic Caucus]


13 posted on 03/23/2024 1:41:16 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: Petrosius

Prayers up for Holy Mother Church.


14 posted on 03/23/2024 1:43:21 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: ebb tide

Read what it actually says, not what you think it says or not one of the crazy commentaries you post. BTW the Cardinal you just slandered will actually tell you what it is all about:

At the behest of the Holy Father, the Assembly saw other members of the People of God gathered together and
around the bishops. The bishops, united among themselves and with the Bishop of Rome, made manifest the
Church as a communion of Churches. Lay people, those in consecrated life, deacons and priests were, together
with the bishops, witnesses of a process that intends to involve the whole Church and everyone in the Church.

Actually, what might scare you, not that I want to speak for you ebby, is mention of changing Canon Law.


15 posted on 03/23/2024 2:10:07 PM PDT by Oystir
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To: Oystir
You, Grech, Bergoglio, and all the other apostates, can call an apple an orange and claim the sun rises in the West till the cows come home. That won't make either claim true. Likewise a Synod of Bishops, is just that. Only the bishops have voting rights.

Likewise, all of you can try to diffentiate liturgigal blessings from "pastoral" blessings. But the truth is that Bergoglio's apostates are now blessing active, sodomite couples in their state of mortal sin.

Here's your hero, Jimmy Martin, S.J., doing just that:


16 posted on 03/23/2024 2:45:38 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

He should become an Episcopalian, they do all that nonsense.


17 posted on 03/23/2024 2:50:54 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Oystir
among other ideas - some of which ebby finds fringe. It is not as inflammatory as ebby’s headline or his inferred conclusions:

Three points:
1) What "ideas" do I find fringe? Put up or shut-up. Mind-reading is frowned upon on this forum.
2)The headlines are not mine, they are LifeSite's headlines.
3)What are my "inferred" conclusions. I have made no conclusions about the posted article. Mind-reading is frowned upon on this forum.

18 posted on 03/23/2024 3:14:25 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: FlyingEagle; Oystir
He should become an Episcopalian, they do all that nonsense.

So should oystir.

19 posted on 03/23/2024 3:15:54 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Oystir
Harrison Butker critiques Cardinal Dolan while Bishop Schneider puts Pope Francis on notice

(Fr. Charles) Murr also speaks to Fiducia Supplicans, warning that Rome is doing to lady deacons what it did with irregular couples, in his opinion: playing with language – the women will be deacons but not deacons at the same time.

“Stop the game playing!” he exclaims. Looking to Rome’s approach to defending Fiducia Supplicans, Murr calls it “insulting” that “Rome takes us for such pathetic fools, that we’re really buying this. Nobody’s buying it.”

Except for fools like oystir.

20 posted on 03/23/2024 5:48:09 PM PDT by ebb tide
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