Comedian Rob Schneider converts to Catholicism, vows to show 'Christ's forgiveness'

Christian Post ^ | 11/13/2023 | Ryan Foley

[ealgeone]

Once again for the obtuse learner. The CATHOLIC Encyclopedia admits “NO direct or categorical and stringent proof of the dogma can be brought forward from scripture. support for the dogma is found in scripture.” I know that’s hard to accept but it is the truth.

And if you check the newer approved versions of the Bible for RCs you’ll see that translation you cite as going away.

[ealgeone]

What happens to the RC who denies the legitimacy of the pope?

[NorthMountain]

You accused me of providing zero support.

That is a falsehood, and babbling about the Catholic Encyclopedia doesn’t help you. Gibbering about “newer translations” doesn’t help you either. In fact, it makes your position worse.

You posted a falsehood. You can admit it and at least preserve a shred of honor. Or you can continue to post falsehoods, knowing that they are false.

Your choice ...

[NorthMountain]

What happens to the Catholic who apostatizes from The Faith? That should be of greater concern to you.

I notice you're changing the subject. Not interested.

[Albion Wilde]

What was he before?........................

He was raised in California from a Catholic mother and a Jewish father. Wikipedia says he converted from Judaism, but my guess is that the actual practice of it was minimized or suppressed in his parents' mixed-marriage family.

[Rural_Michigan]

During the first four centuries of Christianity, from the beginning all Christians agreed on the four Gospels of St. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Beyond that, there was great disagreement as to which books should be read in the churches. St. Athanasius, a bishop, produced the first list of the present books of the Bible in 367 AD. Pope St. Damasus I, in his Decree of Damasus in 382 AD, repeated the same list of books. Then the Council of Hippo in 393 AD approved the same list. So did the third Council of Carthage in 397 AD. The Council of Carthage sent its list to Rome for ratification by Pope St. Boniface I. At that point, the Catholic Canon of Sacred Scripture was accepted worldwide.The Deuterocanonicals were also in the Scripture book that King James authorized. Why were they removed long after King James had died?

[ealgeone]

NM…I know the evidence is hard for you and many Roman Catholics to accept. I’ve cited a Roman Catholic source on this dogma which supports what I’m saying. In all of these discussions I’ve had with your fellow RCs none have been able to impeach that witness. They ignore it as you do because it clearly contradicts what Rome claims.

Luke 1:28 does not say Mary is sinless nor does she remain sinless. I haven’t even brought up the church fathers who say she sinned. You cannot show me one clear verse to support your position. I on the other hand can supply several verses showing all have sinned.

[ealgeone]

Well, as my point on the IC has been proven I wanted to know your opinion on those RCs who deny the current pope.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

Praise be to God! A new follower of Christ is cause for rejoicing!

[ealgeone]

Actually that is incorrect. There was agreement on Paul’s writings as canon prior to 80 AD. The other books outside of the gospels were generally accepted by the church. Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2,3 John, Jude and Revelation were questioned the most in part due to authorship. James was questioned due to its emphasis on works. Revelation was generally accepted everywhere except Parthia (Iran).

The councils you noted recognized the canon in existence but did not declare the canon.

[21twelve]

“In his announcement I see a reference to Hinduism along with some comments on Christ. I see quotes from people but none from Scripture.”

He’s a newborn. Those old influences will take awhile to fade away, and hopefully it is replaced with solid studying of the Bible.

The Christian looking at the casket would have said “He probably wished he knew Jesus.”

[ealgeone]

Well, serious Bible study and Roman Catholicism are often not in the same sentence. It’s only been since 1943 that RCs were encouraged to study the Bible. I can give proof if needed.

I do hope Rob comes to a saving faith in Christ, and only Christ. But that’s not in Roman Catholicism when examined closely.

[M Kehoe]

Elle King is an accomplished singer and band.

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[NorthMountain]

You have proven nothing; you continue to post falsehood.

Discussing a different subject with you will only serve as an occasion of sin for you.

I therefore bid you Good Day.

[M Kehoe]

Hi.

A Roman Catholic here.

What do you think of the following scenario...

The caca has hit the fan. Everything has gone crazy and you are going to have to make a decision...

Stand and fight or run?

You have dug your foxhole for three people. There is incoming on your position. Three guys are seeking what little cover there is. One is a Jew, one is a Protestant and one is a Muslim.

Who do you let survive?

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[ealgeone]

At last it is forgiveness itself that is the gift that we give ourselves because it frees us as The Christ intends for all of us to be free.

Rob has a lot to get straight. We don't give ourselves forgiveness...it is a gift from God.

And, the Bible teaches that not all will be free, however he's defined that.

[ealgeone]

As so often in these debates, the Roman Catholic cannot substantiate their position.

I've given you ROMAN CATHOLIC sources which denies Scriptural support for the Immaculate Conception....all you've given is stamping feet like a toddler who isn't getting his way.

[ealgeone]

Well in that scenario I'd anticipate the Muslim is on the side of the enemy so he's a no go.

I would also theorize the Jew and the Protestant will have more in common than the Muslim will.

And I would let a RC in the foxhole btw. Both the RC and the Jew need witnessing to and conversion to Christianity.

[ealgeone]

IF we want to look at some historical events I've can imagine how RCs would treat the Jew and the Protestant.

There have been some, though it is a small number, on these threads who've advocated a return to those days.

Recall it was Roman Catholicism who made the Jews and Muslims wear ID on their clothing so they could be identified.

Canon 68 (Ut Iudaei discernantur a christianis in habitu or That Jews should be distinguished from Christians in their dress): Mandated a special dress code for Jews and Saracens to distinguish them from Christians so that no Christian shall come to marry them ignorant of who they are. Fourth Council of the Lateran 1213-1215

To my knowledge these canons have not been overturned.

[M Kehoe]

Thanks for responding.

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