Posted on 08/16/2023 6:39:10 AM PDT by zucchini bob
(2 Peter 1:20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. (Isaiah 28:10) For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: (Isaiah 28:13) But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
Maybe you can explain how Catholics cause God’s word to contradict itself.
It doesn’t. That’s what Protestantism is for. Tens of thousands of different denominations all preaching their own interpretation.
Yep, that’s why we have the Church, the body of Christ,of which the magisterium is the teaching authority.
So what happened to the other apostles and disciples? The bible only mentions the death of a few. By your logic they’re immortal.
Give me some examples. I realize it will take time to pull together that many examples but I’ll wait.
I take it you personally checked them all out and compared them, right?
—> How about Enock and Elijah?
They were assumed into heaven.
Yes, and God’s Word says they were.
Just like He said Mary was!
No, wait. Scratch that.
No, that's Catholicism's department.
They're the ones making, dare I say it, assumptions about things not mentioned in Scripture.
Death is part and parcel of the human existence and any exceptions were noted. And since this world is not done yet, there is the thinking that they will be the two witnesses mentioned in Revelation and will die then.
You sure do a lot of projecting of Catholic beliefs on Protestants and then condemn them for it.
Why don't you condemn your own religion for doing the very same thing you accuse others of doing?
Why do you allow for Catholics and Catholicism what you deny others?
Essence of You
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You nailed That Metmom-—
Why do these Hypocrites
Hate the Simple ‘Grace’?
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It’s God’s provision that We as Sinners
Can’t Add Anything other Than diminishing
Christ Sacrifice.
The question of the ages.
And it took 1850+ years and 1950 years to declare two essential beliefs for Roman Catholics to be saved?????? And all those that died without this…??? Too bad? And in all this time less than 30 defined verses???
Best post on this thread. Thank you.
One Lame Vanity!
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I got that Uhaul ready-—
Perhaps you can exit with
A Grand Opus!
I don’t have to dream it.
It’s right there in your previous posts. You go outside of scripture, like most prots, to reject John 20:23.
Nothing but a bunch of hypocritical heretics.
Just like He said Mary was!
No, wait. Scratch that.
We should find somewhere... in "God's Word" then...
that "God's Word" says... IT is the sole Authority of the Faith?
And that "God's Words" it is reveal a table of contents
to identify ecxactly what "God's Words" are, from God!
Just Like God said - Sola Scriptura Rules !
No, wait ... Scratch that ... beeeg time...
Now, perhaps the gentleman's post was meant to be hyperbole,
and yes, I mght have been wrong not to check if it was meant that way
(Usually here on FR, it's not)
But the 2 statements that were made that were not congruent of Catholicism.
To be Catholic- and to seriously claim to NOT have opened a Bible-
runs counter to the centuries of the Catholic Mass Liturgy.
So yes, I found little truth in those two opposing statements - and couldn't let that pass.
Now it is possible that his Parish didn't have Lectionaries in their pews at that time as well.
But the Church, following the Oral Traditions of Reading Scripture during Worship from the beginning of Christianity,
In the Mass reads aloud 3 scripture passages on Sunday and special Feasts or Solemnities - and 2 readings on week days.
I pretty sure... YOU understand this to be True of the Mass as well... yes I think?
Going to the format level, actually in the Catholic Mass...
we read through about 75% of the entire Bible EVERY 3 years...
And then we start back over again, constantly...
The canard of Catholics don't read the bible is so falsely silly,
the innocent bystander deserves to know the real truth-
That the Church, to this day, has maintained, "has held fast to",
the Oral and written traditions of Scripture being a central part of the Christian Worship liturgy.
So what did you think of my Mona Lisa analogy I wrote to you?
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Scripture notes they were...unlike Mary.
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Not exactly.....the 71.5% figure presumes the Roman Catholic is going to Mass on Sunday and weekdays (and that is a small number based on surveys)....and that's just the NT. The OT is around 13.5% for the Roman Catholic attending on Sunday and weekday...3.7 for those just on Sunday.
| NT Section | Pre-Vatican II Missal” Sundays and Major Feasts | Current Lectionary: Sundays and Major Feasts | Current Lectionary: Sundays and Weekdays | |
| Gospels | 22.4% | 57.8% | 89.8% | |
| Acts | 3.5% | 16.4% | 48.9% | |
| Romans | 15.9% | 27.0%% | 52.7% | |
| Pauline Letters (including Romans above) | 18.1% | 31.3% | 56.7% | |
| Deutero-Paulines | 15.2% | 37.3% | 64.7% | |
| Hebrews | 5.6% | 27.6% | 62.0% | |
| Catholic Epistles | 13.2% | 24.7% | 67.6% | |
| Revelation | 0% | 9.4% | 31.9% | |
| NT w/o Gospels | 11.0% | 25.4% | 54.9% | |
| NT Grand Total | 16.5% | 40.8% | 71.5% | |
https://catholic-resources.org/Lectionary/Statistics.htm
https://www.catholic.com/qa/percentage-of-the-bible-in-the-lectionary
No really based on the numbers I posted. And that's having the Scripture read to them.
It's not actual Bible study.
And it wasn't until 1943 that Roman Catholics were actually encouraged to read Scripture.
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Once the printing press was invented, the most commonly printed book was the Bible, but this still did not make Bible-reading a Catholic’s common practice. Up until the mid-twentieth Century, the custom of reading the Bible and interpreting it for oneself was a hallmark of the Protestant churches springing up in Europe after the Reformation. Protestants rejected the authority of the Pope and of the Church and showed it by saying people could read and interpret the Bible for themselves. Catholics meanwhile were discouraged from reading Scripture.
Identifying the reading and interpreting of the Bible as “Protestant” even affected the study of Scripture. Until the twentieth Century, it was only Protestants who actively embraced Scripture study. That changed after 1943 when Pope Pius XII issued the encyclical Divino Afflante Spiritu. This not only allowed Catholics to study Scripture, it encouraged them to do so. And with Catholics studying Scripture and teaching other Catholics about what they were studying, familiarity with Scripture grew..
https://www.usccb.org/offices/new-american-bible/changes-catholic-attitudes-toward-bible-readings
—> And that “God’s Words” it is reveal a table of contents
to identify ecxactly what “God’s Words” are, from God!
The entirety of scripture is God-breathed. All.
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