Posted on 06/26/2023 1:28:24 AM PDT by spirited irish
II Peter3 :1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
*5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:*******
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
I will follow the WORD.
Because the subject of the post tells us not to trust these “Christian Leaders”!!!!!!
Also, I want to know so I will not follow them. Example: Andy Stanley, Rick Warren. While some of their teaching is sound, other aspects stray from Scripture, so I don’t follow them. If they are “wrong” in some areas, I am leery of their teaching overall.
Because the subject of the post tells us not to trust these “Christian Leaders”!!!!!!
Also, I want to know so I will not follow them. Example: Andy Stanley, Rick Warren. While some of their teaching is sound, other aspects stray from Scripture, so I don’t follow them. If they are “wrong” in some areas, I am leery of their teaching overall.
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Excellent answer !
Point conceded.
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“He created in the beggining,,, not He created in the bygone era(s)”
You don’t think bygone eras is not in the beginning? Does it give a date for the beginning?
If it says he created Earth in the six day creation event, evening and morining, could you please show me where it says that.
The King James does not always capitalize “he” when referring to God.
Logic is not your strong point, but that is okay.
If it says he created Earth in the six day creation event, evening and morining, could you please show me where it says that.
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I did.
Already.
It’s
There
In
The
Text
Of
Genesis
Chapter
1
At least “ I “ can read.
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“I did.
Already.”
Nope. You can’t do it, it is not there, which is why you refuse to try. And by the way, what I am pointing out is not my idea, skilled theologians have been pointing it out forever, so don’t try to dodge it by confining it to me and my supposed inability to read.
“When the six days of creation starts, the earth was already here. The “six day” creation period starts later.”
“2Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.”
the earth was already here. Okay, but it wasn’t the “earth” as we know it now. “the earth was formless and void”.
Were there dinosaurs living on a formless and void earth? What did they eat?
Technically your argument works, but with no consequence.
Okay the earth is billions of years old, the FORMLESS and VOID earth that is. Whatever a formless and void earth is, NOTHING happened until God started creating THIS earth.
SO, any time before creation is meaningless, worthless. So your argument is the same.
“SO, any time before creation is meaningless, worthless.”
God made the dry land appear. He did not create it, but was from a previous creation.
Your argument is completely nonsensical.
it is not there,
?
It’s RIGHT there,
so I can observe you are being
” willfully ignorant “.
Why repeat myself
when all you got is
,,,,,,,” Nuh-uh !!!”
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:-) Nothing wrong with that. Actually, not many words recorded about the creation....so there is a lot we don’t know.
“It’s RIGHT there...”
Okay, would it hurt you to cite the verse? It would take less effort than you are already expending with that ridiculous method of presentation.
Just one verse. There are very few verses that are pertinent.
I mean, with the verse that ends with “the first day, the second day, etc. that creates the time frame of what was created in to six days.
Dude
Read.
·post # 23 of 51
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Gen 1:5 - And God called
the light Day,
and the darkness he called Night.
And
the evening and the morning
were the first day.
Gen 1:1 to 1:31
Each day of the week of creation
is self identified as
a day ,
light,
and
a night ,
dark
A 24 hour day/night. light/cycle.
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I’m done chasing you from one mole hole to the next.
Like progs,
when you lose one argument
you just pivot to your next argument
and eventually back to your first losing argument,
forever refusing
to be held accountable
or admit being wrong on any one point.
Just
Like
Progs
You should stop that.
Still can’t do it, can you?
I’ve done it twice so far
Here it is a 3rd time
post # 23 of 51
.....
Gen 1:5 - And God called
the light Day,
and the darkness he called Night.
And
the evening and the morning
were the first day.
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So, you can’t count either,
why, I am not surprised.
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One specifically mentioned is Dr. William Liam Craig. I never heard of him.
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