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Jersey Shore pier in the shape of a cross raises concerns — is it ‘Christian bullying’?
SI Live ^ | 8/22/2022 | Jackie Roman

Posted on 08/24/2022 12:11:13 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable

A beach pier in Ocean Grove destroyed during Superstorm Sandy is being rebuilt by a local religious organization, but the new shape has some residents concerned it too closely resembles a cross.

Members of the small seaside town’s LGTBQ+ community and allies are saying the cross crosses a line, but many are afraid to voice their grievances with the Camp Meeting Association, said Douglas Grote, a local resident and retired Presbyterian pastor.

The cross-shaped pier feels like “Christian bullying,” said Grote, who has penned letters to local and state officials asking for intervention.

“I am so deeply concerned,” he said. ”And I am so concerned from my neighbors who are scared and bullied.”

Ocean Grove, referred to as God’s Square Mile by some of its residents, is a seaside community of roughly 3,000 residents located just south of Asbury Park. It’s technically not its own town — Ocean Grove is a small section of Neptune Township, set aside with a unique charter.

It was founded more than 150 years ago as a summertime, tent-revival religious retreat. It was governed by the Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association, a Methodist ministry, as a religious enclave for 100 years until the New Jersey Supreme Court declared its charter unconstitutional after a series of lawsuits.

However, the Camp Meeting Association still owns all the land and has enormous influence on the community and its residents. When buying a home in Ocean Grove, residents must enter into a land-lease agreement with the camp, meaning while residents and businesses can own buildings in Ocean Grove, the Methodist group owns the land.

The camp’s authority also extends to the beach, boardwalk and all its associated staff and activities.

The Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association broke ground on its pier restoration project during a ribbon cutting ceremony in July, when camp leadership unveiled a rendering showing the redesigned pier in the shape of a cross.

The new design is practical, functional and an improvement over the prior design, according to Michael Badger, president of the Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association.

When asked if the pier was purposely redesigned to resemble a Christian cross, seen as a representation of the crucifixion of Jesus, Badger said the design was, “highly functional, to be in the shape that it’s been designed to be.”

The boardwalk in Ocean Grove has been repaired in the years since Superstorm Sandy, but the full length of its pier —which once housed a members-only fishing club — was never reconstructed, Badger said.

That’s why the camp embarked on a three-year fundraising campaign called “American Treasure,” ultimately raising $550,000 to go toward a new pier and beachfront facilities. The camp is using $750,000 of internal resources to meet the $1.3 million needed to complete the full restoration.

A website launched in 2019 for the fundraiser includes a concept rendering of the new pier. The fundraiser was open to the public, not just members of the Camp Meeting Association.

“The completed pier will provide a publicly accessible attraction for all to enjoy; new opportunities for our community; future programs, and enjoyment for generations to come,” a website for the American Treasure fundraiser reads.

The new design will restore the Ocean Grove pier to its historic length of 500 feet and include additional observation angles, as well as new safety features, according to the Camp Meeting Association.

There’s been a lot of support for the project, Badger said.

The project received approvals from the state under the Coastal Area Facilities Review Act, according to Neptune Township Business Administrator Gina LaPlaca.

“Because it is property owned by the Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association, and over water, the township did not have any zoning authority over the pier’s placement or design,” LaPlaca said.

Since the pier project did not have to go through local officials for approval, many residents were surprised by the new cross-shaped pier design, said Shane Martins, an attorney who sits on the Neptune Zoning Board and lives in Ocean Grove.

Martins, who is gay, said even if he’s not personally offended by the design, “it’s not just about me, there’s other people being hurt.”

“Once this pier is built like a cross, I believe that will be the point of a no return,” Martins said. “To say that cross doesn’t represent Christian nationalism, anyone who says that isn’t being honest.”

The complete pier will be accessible to the public and it will not include any exclusive, membership-only component, said Badger.

Construction will begin the week of Sept. 12, according to the Camp Meeting Association.

This is not the first time the Methodist group has faced secular and LGBTQ+ complaints.

In 2012, a state administrative law judge found the camp violated the state’s law against discrimination when it denied two Ocean Grove residents the use of its boardwalk pavilion for their 2007 civil union ceremony.

After the dispute, the Camp Meeting Association nixed the possibility of all weddings, gay or straight, at its boardwalk pavilion by prohibiting private events and ceremonies at the facility.


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KEYWORDS: cross; newjersey; oceangrove; pier
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To: Trump.Deplorable
My late parents owned a home in “Open Grave’’ for over twenty-five years starting in the early ‘80’s. And they were Catholics and still well received by the Methodist community. In response to the state flooding the town with deinstutionalized mental patients into the town's many SRO’s and bed and break fast places and with virtually no supervision for these people Ocean Grove was a mess.

My father and some other residents organized The Ocean Grove Citizen's Council and made the state take responsibility for these patients.

21 posted on 08/24/2022 12:24:53 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Trump.Deplorable

I believe Ocean Grove is where cars were banned on Sundays.


22 posted on 08/24/2022 12:25:01 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Not as crazy as you might think.
100 year old Nursery, on over 100 acres, had a big compost recyling yard for locals to bring grass and leaves and such. (Later sols it back to them at a premium as “Organic Mulch”)

Are gentrified, had lots of commuters move in.
Started complaining about the smell.
Had to shut it down.
Had it all rezoned as Multi Family and built a shiiteload of Condos on the property.
Screwed those complainers Bigly.

Retired down to Neptune FL, bought a a palace.


23 posted on 08/24/2022 12:25:27 PM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: abigkahuna
Who in their right mind is concernd about the shape of a pier for goshsakes?

Only the people who see it on Google Maps.

-PJ

24 posted on 08/24/2022 12:25:52 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Trump.Deplorable
The cross-shaped pier feels like “Christian bullying
And I am so concerned from my neighbors who are scared and bullied.
Once this pier is built like a cross, I believe that will be the point of a no return

This will never stop. If the pier is torn down, they will feel that CROSSwalks are bullying them. Cattle CROSSings will be banned. Railroad CROSSings will be removed.

In a sane world, everyone would recognize that this is a sign of insanity and put the insane individuals away where they can harm no one or themselves.

25 posted on 08/24/2022 12:28:11 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Damn it! We need Trump! America First! Bring America back! We're being governed by fascists.)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Maybe they’d prefer it in the shape if a rump.


26 posted on 08/24/2022 12:39:30 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: I want the USA back

How about the Red Cross????????????


27 posted on 08/24/2022 12:41:49 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: Trump.Deplorable

They object because a Christian organization is building something in the form of a cross. Now who are the intolerant ones?


28 posted on 08/24/2022 12:42:50 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Trump.Deplorable

“Members of the small seaside town’s LGTBQ+ community and allies are saying the cross crosses a line,”

Are Demon possessed people are always terrified of any Christian symbol?


29 posted on 08/24/2022 12:45:31 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Time to have the baptisms by the pier.


30 posted on 08/24/2022 12:46:48 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: nickcarraway

“We need to ban the letter T!”

It’s called a T-Head Pier, very common design feature. Increases the area available for fishing in deeper water at the end of the pier. Has no symbolism whatsoever. Spend that kind of money for a pier it would be stupid not to include the T-Head.


31 posted on 08/24/2022 12:51:19 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Only an anti-Christian bigot would think this pier constitutes “Christian bullying.”


32 posted on 08/24/2022 1:00:02 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Trump.Deplorable

I hope Tucker Carlson or Laura Ingraham picks up on this story.


33 posted on 08/24/2022 1:01:28 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Maybe 2 or 3 people are complaining. The press tries to make it sound like thousands.

That’s what the press does. Create hate and chaos. It sells. If there is none, they just make it up.


34 posted on 08/24/2022 1:07:15 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Trump.Deplorable
Since they own the land they can have sweet revenge if they want: have a portion set aside and re-zoned for low income housing and announce a plan to put up a low income housing development. Watch everyone scream and wail.

George Lucas threatened his neighbors to do this if they kept blocking him from building a studio on his massive parcel of land.

35 posted on 08/24/2022 1:09:54 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Clearly 90 degree (right!) angles must be outlawed in construction. That will eliminate any intentional or unintentional crosses being formed.


36 posted on 08/24/2022 1:20:42 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: alancarp; Tell It Right

I surfed over to the Camp Meeting Association’s website. They seem to be evangelistic—like the Methodists who ran the camp meetings of yore—and not affiliated with the United Methodist Church.


37 posted on 08/24/2022 1:25:08 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Leftists are always “deeply concerned.” Never just “concerned.” Always “deeply concerned.”


38 posted on 08/24/2022 1:30:45 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: Trump.Deplorable

all straight paths are Christian bullying

Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your paths straight.

all small and narrow gates are Christian bullying

“Enter through the narrow gate. ... For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. ... But small is the gate and ...

All doors are Christian bullying. Doubly so for narrow doors.

Luke 13:23 Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?”
He said to them, 24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.


39 posted on 08/24/2022 1:34:11 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Even many conservatives have embraced the notion that America should not be part of Christendom, but instead should embrace diversity as the false national religion.


40 posted on 08/24/2022 1:35:20 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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