Posted on 10/16/2020 7:56:28 AM PDT by pastorbillrandles
‘“Because this people draw near with their words And honor Me with their lip service, But they remove their hearts far from Me, And their reverence for Me consists of ]tradition learned by rote,( Isaiah 29)
The Neo Pharisees make a great pretense of honoring and observing the Torah, but in truth, they lead those who are wrongly impressed with their “piety” into the pit. These are the blind guides Jesus warned us of; the blind leading the blind into the eternal pit of perdition.
For example let us look at the subject of atonement by Blood sacrifice.
The Perushim, (Pharisees) downplay sacrifice, as if it is not that important, instead the way to be forgiven by God according to them, is by Teshuvah,(repentance) prayer, alms and other “Mitzvoth”,(good works). Supposedly blood is not necessary for forgiveness.
For example here is a quote by Rabbi Daniel Asor, which is typical of the Pharisaic movement,
Christianity’s obsession on the subject of ‘atonement for sins’ through someone else’s pure blood, comes from the Pagan idolatry of ancient religions.” From Article,
Such is the Pharisaic way to deal with the problem of Christian theology, just dismiss us as Pagans and Idolators. But the Christian teaching on atonement is rooted in the Torah itself, in Genesis,Exodus and Leviticus, all of which teach atonement by blood. What was the meaning of the first blood shedding in the garden of Eden?
Furthermore why was Cain’s offering rejected whereas Abel’s was accepted by God? What was the difference? How is it that the entire nation of Israel was delivered from Slavery? What was the God ordained sign of faith? The blood of the Lamb!
“The blood shall be a sign for you, on the houses where you are. And when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and no plague will befall you to destroy you, when I strike the land of Egypt.” (Exodus 12:13)
The Pharisees are lying when they discount the need for blood atonement. They have to lie about it, because modern “Orthodox Judaism” encoded it’s doctrine at the council of Jamnia, sometime after the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed. They had to refashion Judaism, since the old Temple worship, with it’s Priests and sacrifices was no longer possible to practice. Now instead of Priests and Levites, there would be Rabbis. Instead of sacrifices of blood, (Life for life), there would be Good works,( Repentance, prayer, Alms). No wonder they are forced to discount blood as a necessity.
Leviticus ( In the Torah) flows with blood of sacrifice,
The Book of Leviticus, the book which is dedicated in detail to the sacrifices and atonement for sins, talks about atonement 49 times! Each time, the context is always the blood sacrifices. Why blood is so important to God? In Leviticus 17:10, God commands not to eat blood, and in the next verse, He explains why the blood is so important: “For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.” (Lev. 17:11) (ibid)
I have heard Rabbis assert over and over again, that when Christians are asked “where in the Torah is the need for blood sacrifice taught?” that the only answer given of them, is Leviticus 17:11. Then the Christian is told that Leviticus 17 is not about atonement, but about dietary laws.
This is disingenuous, a straw man , easily knocked down. On the one hand, the Torah has much, much more to say on the subject, than Leviticus 17:11, although that is a powerful enough argument.
“And Moses took half of the blood and put it in basins, and half of the blood he threw against the altar. Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it in the hearing of the people. And they said, ‘All that the LORD has spoken we will do, and we will be obedient.’ And Moses took the blood and threw it on the people and said, ‘Behold the blood of the covenant that the LORD has made with you in accordance with all these words.’” (Ex. 24:6-8)“Aaron shall make atonement on its horns once a year. With the blood of the sin offering of atonement he shall make atonement for it once in the year throughout your generations. It is most holy to the LORD.” (Ex. 30:10)
I could easily fill this page with quotes from the Torah which make the point that fellowship with God can only be attained by the blood of a perfect God appointed sacrifice. The Rabbis are lying to people. Those who once knew Jesus are in fact trampling under foot the blood of Jesus, as Hebrews warns. Even many Jewish Sages disagree with Singer, Skobac and others, according to this “One for Israel” article,
Even the Sages recognized this. Yalkut Shimoni says on Exodus 29: “There is no atonement but in the blood.” In tractate Yoma 5a it says: “And he shall lay his hand… and it shall be accepted for him. Does the laying on of the hand make atonement for one? Does not atonement come through the blood?” Rashi himself said: “There is no atonement without blood.”The Sages also recognized this principle and repeated it in Zevachim 6; Minchot 93; Sifra 4, and more.
Pharisees always come across so authoritative, pious and supposedly reverent of scripture, but I hope you can see on this all important concept, the Pharisees are actually lying about the Torah. Where is the reverence in that? In order to justify their existence as post Temple Jews, the Pharisees have literally downplayed a huge concept in God’s Torah, the importance of atonement by Blood sacrifice, appointed by God. This is a dangerous game, spiritually. Those impressed by the modern Pharisees who have renounced the blood of Jesus, will have eternity to regret their decision.
Reactionary post from last night or planned in your series?
Every Christian quote of the Torah or Talmud is out of context, mistranslated, or wrong - this includes quoting the Talmud and later sages.
Here is a short Jewish rebuttal to atonement through blood alone. So simple and cuts through eons of Christian conflation.
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You continuously use “”pharisee” to the point of it sounding like a pejorative. On purpose?
Go ask your Hebrew-speaking new pastor friend. Jew is the word for Jews. It is a translation and transliteration of Yehud... ie, the people of Yehuda. (Judea, etc) it is etymologically derived from the word Acknowledge and Submit. Jews acknowledge and submit to G-d alone.
Chronos brought up my clay vase analogy to refute the Talmud (as I refuse the NT.) Incorrect. To paraphrase you ‘scripture’ The rabbis sit in the seat of Moses. JC understood the oral law better than you and you don’t recognize it (or thwart it) in your own scripture. The Talmud is the extention of the Oral Law (given at Sinai and replete throughout the Jewish Bible. It does not contradict G-d or the Torah though you’ll try to pull out of context evidence to the contrary. Your Aramaic is as non-existwnt as your Hebrew.
I am glad for the conversation as it shakes Christians to their core and gives them the chance to return to the one true G-d of Israel and abandon man-god idol worship.
Saw he clip. Lev. 17:11 seems clear cut to me.
Deny Christ at your peril.
CC
Scary. Where do you think your eternal lake of fire idea comes from?
I guess someone forgot to tell God that.
He is not a part of the Jewish religion, in any way, shape or form. Neither is Krishna, Allah, or Moloch. Daily, Jews recite an affirmation that for us, there is only One. So fire away.
Yell well, that’s your opinion man.
You’d think the Jews don’t have answers for it all in those 2K years right? Let me ask you— when G-d says “Forever” how short is it? Eternal nation. Here’s a primer for you—
No Pejorative intended Phinneous, I heard Rabbis Singer call himself on and said he was part of the movement, I realize and have stated in these articles, Phariseeism is a respected term to Jews...
Can you at least acknowledge the God given Holy scriptures I have given you? I don’t care what “man” thinks.
Fair enough. It’s part of his marketing. As is
Your Pharissaic Friend: https://judaismresources.net/author/yourphariseefriend/
That last one has a running debate with Michael Brown (sort of stalled out but see the back-and-forth for yourself.)
Pastor it seems like you’re going down our counter-missionary rabbit hole. Bring a parachute and a snack. G-d awaits you at the bottom. And at the top.
u male haaretz m’deas es Hashem, k’mayim hayam michasim. And the world will be filled with the knowledge of G-d, like the waters cover the seabed.
Jan there is not one of your proof texts, “Old” or New Testament, that isn’t addressed by Judaism. I could write original pieces— and hats off to the Pastor for taking the time to do so— but the Jews have had the answers forever.
google — “zechariah 12, pierced, tovia singer” or “jews for judaism ____________ [insert verse, OT or NT]”
Or “Why does the talmud let jews be pedophiles?” ALL of the questions have been answered.
Ain’t nothing like the Old thing, baby. (it’s the REAL thing)
You do you, I’ll do me.
Peace.
CC
Yeah, because Isaiah was such a famous chrstian [/sarcasm].
And once again, Noahides do not observe the Torah. They're not supposed to.
Honestly, it's like arguing with a wall.
Zionist I am not claiming that Noahides observe the Torah nor do they keep Sabbath(they are not allowed to), I am merely pointing to the sources that are encouraging Gentiles to accept the “Noahide “ righteousness, and jettison the Righteousness by faith in Jesus...
No, very sorry to say that you’re truly missing out on what God has given us through Christ. From what I read, Jews just completely stay away from the New Testament and would be hard-pressed to even say who Joseph and Mary are. And it’s because the evidence for Jesus is so convincing that many would believe in Christ. That’s also why Christian programming is kept from Israeli TV.
Moses will spiritually lead you out of this world, Egypt, and as far as the Promised Land, but he doesn’t and can’t take you across the Jordan and into it. Yeshua does.
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