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Atheism And Humans-Cease-To-Exist-Oblivion.
JAG 5000

Posted on 06/27/2020 7:36:29 AM PDT by JAG 5000

When you die, is that the end of you?

Or do you continue to live on and on somewhere after you die?

Atheists answer those questions in one of two ways:

{1} Some atheists say they do not know if humans cease to exist after death, that there may be an afterlife.

{2} Many other atheists say that humans DO cease to exist after death.

The following are observations regarding {2} "Humans-DO-Cease-To-Exist-Atheism."

Cockroaches . . .

On Humans-Cease-To-Exist Atheism there is no ultimate difference in the end of a human being and a cockroach, in that both have the same ultimate destiny, namely oblivion as in ceasing to exist.

This is a sad unhappy world-view to believe and to share with other human beings.

No long-term hope. No long-term future. Unhappy. Depressing. No Eternal Life, Only Death awaits ---followed by Oblivion.

House plants . . .

On Humans-Cease-To-Exist Atheism there is no ultimate difference in the end of a human being and a house plant, in that both have the same ultimate destiny, namely oblivion as in ceasing to exist.

This is indeed sad. Cheerless. Dismal. Dreary. Grim. Desolate. Dishearting.

Question for Humans-Cease-To-Exist-Atheists:

How does it make you feel to believe that you have no more ultimate worth and value than a house plant and a cockroach?

Or dead critters smashed in road kills . . . . {they cease to exist too }

Again, that which ceases to exist has no ultimate worth and value.

Nothing cannot be valuable.

Cockroaches and house plants die and cease to exist.

They cease to be worth anything.

They become trash to be collected and discarded.

On Humans-Cease-To-Exist Atheism you eventually cease to exist and that which has ceased to exist has become a zero.

Atheists do have worth and value in the present to their own selves and in their own mind and in their own feelings.

And they do have present worth and value to their family and to their friends.

And many Atheists do have worth and value to society in the present.

However on Humans-Cease-To-Exist Atheism atheists have no ultimate worth and value because they ultimately become nothing. Zero. 0.0000

Ultimate definition: "being or happening at the end of a process."

On Humans-Cease-To-Exist Atheism atheists will cease to exist at the end of the process of their lives.

That which no longer exists is not worth anything.

Its utterly impossible for nothing to be valuable.

0.0000 = Nothing = Zero.

I keep repeating this because it needs to be faced head-on.

Atheism is very sad.

A hopeless position to hold.

It ends up in ultimate long-term despair.

There is no hope in nothing.

And on Humans-Cease-To-Exist Atheism, they end up ultimately in oblivion. 0.0000

Atheism reduces to pure dark dreary grim desolation.

No long-term future.

No long-term hope.

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Contrast Christendom's great doctrines of Eternal Life.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." John 3:16

"My sheep listen to my voice, I know them, and they follow me, I give them eternal life and they shall never perish." John 10:27-28

On Christianity there is ultimate long-term hope for the future -- the exact opposite of gloomy Humans-Cease-To-Exist-Atheism.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: death; godeternallife

1 posted on 06/27/2020 7:36:29 AM PDT by JAG 5000
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To: JAG 5000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsOxgwF9LlM

And are we born again, just to keep asking questions like these?


2 posted on 06/27/2020 7:41:02 AM PDT by golux
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To: JAG 5000; All

You and I have already been tagged. “Non-essential”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyoN9V9fCuk


3 posted on 06/27/2020 7:44:29 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: golux

“And are we born again, just to keep asking questions like these?”___Golux

What questions?
The Opening Post didn’t ask any questions,
rather it made a lot of statements about
Atheists and their relationship to cockroaches
and house plants and smashed road kills on the
point of ultimate end — which is 0.0000 for
all:
All 4 have the identical same end:
{1} Humans-Cease-To-Exist Atheists
{2} Cockroaches.
{3} House Plants
{4} Smashed Road Kills

“And are we born again”___Golux
You said “we.”
I don’t know if you are born again or not?
You tell me.


4 posted on 06/27/2020 7:50:02 AM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: JAG 5000

Humans have souls which (IMO) are necessary for consciousness.

Plants and roaches may have souls, maybe not.

Because human consciousness is at least in part “outside” a human body, it is impossible for any one to say it will not survive death of the body.


5 posted on 06/27/2020 7:51:57 AM PDT by Gratia
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To: JAG 5000; All

Tagged by TOTALITARIAN POS POLITICIANS and defended by NO POLITICIAN. Need more examples? OK...

Bitter clingers, deplorables, etc., etc.

There is EVIL in the republic. IDENTIFY the EVIL INDIVIDUALS. CALL THESE ARROGANT PRICKS OUT.


6 posted on 06/27/2020 7:53:26 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: PGalt

“You and I have already been tagged. “Non-essential””___PGalt

False.
I have not been tagged.
There is no “you and I.”
There is:
{1} Me.
{2} You.

I am not “Non-essential”
Neither do you have to be Non-essential.


7 posted on 06/27/2020 7:53:59 AM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: JAG 5000; All

It’s an asymmetric war battlefield. How did Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc., etc. get away with it? It starts with thoughts, then advances with words, then action. The S has HTF.


8 posted on 06/27/2020 7:58:54 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Gratia

“Plants and roaches may have souls, maybe not.”___Gratia

Yeah right!
Your car may have a soul too.
And your washing machine.
And your refrigerator may have a soul.

Ahh the Internet!
It quite a place isn’t it.
_______

Just curious?
Did you actually read the Opening Post?


9 posted on 06/27/2020 8:01:40 AM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: Gratia

“Plants and roaches may have souls, maybe not.”___Gratia

Yeah right!
Your car may have a soul too.
And your washing machine.
And your refrigerator may have a soul.

Ahh the Internet!
It quite a place isn’t it.
_______

Just curious?
Did you actually read the Opening Post?


10 posted on 06/27/2020 8:01:46 AM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: JAG 5000
Maybe this is our heaven or hell, right here in this life.
If you live a good life, you life will be happy and fruitful.
If you you live an unjust life, you will be miserable and barren.
11 posted on 06/27/2020 8:05:48 AM PDT by oldbrowser
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To: PGalt

“Tagged by TOTALITARIAN POS POLITICIANS
and defended by NO POLITICIAN. Need more
examples? OK...

Bitter clingers, deplorables, etc., etc.

There is EVIL in the republic. IDENTIFY
the EVIL INDIVIDUALS. CALL THESE ARROGANT
PRICKS OUT.”___PGalt

I hope you know what you’re talking about.
Because I have no foggy clue.
Your comments have nothing to do with my
Opening Post.
But that’s okay. This is the Internet.
_________

If your comments indicate that you are a Conservative
then I’m on your side of the political spectrum.

Either way.
Blessing be upon you.

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12 posted on 06/27/2020 8:07:47 AM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: PGalt

“It’s an asymmetric war battlefield. How did Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc., etc. get away with it? It starts with thoughts, then advances with words, then action. The S has HTF.”___PGalt

You seem very interested in Stalin, Mao, etc.
Therefore you may be interested in these stats.
This is from a highly credible source:
{1} The Cato Institute
{2} The Economist magazine

Here it is:
Start quote.

“The Death Toll From Statism: Civilians Killed By Governments - excluding wars

China (communists) 35 million
Germany (total 20th century) 21 million
The Holocaust (1938-1945) 6 million
Soviet Union (total 20th century) 62 million
Stalinist Purges 1930 -1938 — 20 -60 million
Cambodia (1975-1979) 1 -2 million”

Source: It’s getting Better All The Time: 100 Greatest Trends Of The Last 100 Years
by Stephen Moore and Julian Simon
page 16
published by the Cato Institute.
Moore and Simon got the above from Statistics Of Democide by Rudy J. Rummel
as cited in The Economist magazine.
End quote.


13 posted on 06/27/2020 8:17:00 AM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: oldbrowser

“Maybe this is our heaven or hell, right here in this life.
If you live a good life, you life will be happy and fruitful.
If you you live an unjust life, you will be miserable and barren.”___Oldbrowser

Here is something better than that:

“For God so loved the world that He gave His
one and only Son that whoever believes in Him
shall not Perish, but have Eternal Life.”

Note the contrast between:

{1} Perish
and
{2} Eternal Life
_______

What do you think Perish means?
What do you think Eternal Life means?


14 posted on 06/27/2020 8:24:18 AM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: JAG 5000

Thanks for the information and your posts, JAG 5000.


15 posted on 06/27/2020 8:26:35 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: JAG 5000
You sure do post a lot of atheism threads.
Did an atheist run over your dog?
16 posted on 06/27/2020 8:35:11 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Extremism.)
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To: PGalt

“Thanks for the information and your posts, JAG 5000”___PGalt

Y’welcome.
My pleasure.
I thought you might appreciate those stats.
I hope you find those stats helpful.
You also can do some Google work and pull up all
kinds of information about these Statist murderers:
{1} Adolph Hitler
{2} Joseph Stalin
{3} Mao
{4} Pol Pot

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17 posted on 06/27/2020 8:39:41 AM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

“You sure do post a lot of atheism threads.
Did an atheist run over your dog?”___TangoLimaSierra

Run over my dog.
Laugh Out Loud
I have nothing particularly against Atheists.
I DO talk to them a lot on the Internet.
And all that talking produced some of the
thoughts I have posted here at Free Republic.
I think my “Atheists Threads” are nearing the end.

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18 posted on 06/27/2020 8:48:18 AM PDT by JAG 5000 (JAG 5000)
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To: JAG 5000

Absolutely not! Was there anything interesting?


19 posted on 06/27/2020 10:48:52 AM PDT by Gratia
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